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#51
#51
Chris4Vols22 said:
Yeah, I def want to take this opportunity to say that  this game was an example of legitimate bad officiating. People whine every single game regardless, but this is the one people need to be complaining about
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Let’s be honest. It’s been horrific for years.

Consistency is the problem. I believe it’s also been proven that the home crowd can affect calls.
 
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BruisedOrange said:
Generic question for those who have been refs:

It happens frequently. Refs have to change the way a game is being called. Maybe in a loosely called game players are taking advantage, the risk of injury is getting elevated, certain sized players are getting benefits beyond the rules, etc. Or a tightly called game is turning into a free throw contest with a midnight ETA.

So when your zebra team decides to change the way you're calling the game, do you inform both coaches during a timeout? Or do you let the players "figure it out" for themselves?

Seems like I remember once a ref coming over to our huddle and saying something like "we're gonna start calling more fouls, so adjust accordingly."
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In this game, they adjusted by just not calling fouls on Illinois in the second half so I imagine they kept the decision to themselves.
 
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Voluble2 said:
Announcers may have said that but there wasn't even a common foul called on Boswell. They had called the foul on Mashack from the start.
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Which is exactly why they didn’t change the call. They ruled it wasn’t a flagrant act on the offensive player. They can’t change the original foul call on a review unless they deemed a flagrant foul on the offensive player.
 
#54
#54
cncchris33 said:
Yep, Robbie Hummel (Purdue) at his finest. Him and his partner were both so confused why the shot clock reset (and ultimately was turned off on the side out with 18 seconds left. They were nearly beside themselves. They forgot the shot clock resets to 20 on a foul call.
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I kept yelling the reason at the TV. One of them set the record straight right before inbounds
 
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cncchris33 said:
Yep, Robbie Hummel (Purdue) at his finest. Him and his partner were both so confused why the shot clock reset (and ultimately was turned off on the side out with 18 seconds left. They were nearly beside themselves. They forgot the shot clock resets to 20 on a foul call.
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I was discussing this with my 14 year old son and told him that a foul resets it. Hummel actually understood it, but the play by play was slow to understand. My 14 year said that some tv guys don’t even know the rules.
 
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BruisedOrange said:
Generic question for those who have been refs:

It happens frequently. Refs have to change the way a game is being called. Maybe in a loosely called game players are taking advantage, the risk of injury is getting elevated, certain sized players are getting benefits beyond the rules, etc. Or a tightly called game is turning into a free throw contest with a midnight ETA.

So when your zebra team decides to change the way you're calling the game, do you inform both coaches during a timeout? Or do you let the players "figure it out" for themselves?

Seems like I remember once a ref coming over to our huddle and saying something like "we're gonna start calling more fouls, so adjust accordingly."
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Ideally, you are consistent from start to finish. If you have to adjust something in a competitive game, then you likely started out too loose or tight. I've never been a part of a crew that made a conscious decision to change the way a game was officiated in an even matchup.

Now, in a lopsided game, you try to hold both teams accountable to their level of play without affecting the outcome. Hopefully that makes sense.
 
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VolGee4 said:
I was discussing this with my 14 year old son and told him that a foul resets it. Hummel actually understood it, but the play by play was slow to understand. My 14 year said that some tv guys don’t even know the rules.
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It sure didn't seem like either one of them understood for a long time. Hummel may have been the one to come to his senses first, but for an uncomfortably long time, neither guy seemed to understand.
 
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cncchris33 said:
It sure didn't seem like either one of them understood for a long time. Hummel may have been the one to come to his senses first, but for an uncomfortably long time, neither guy seemed to understand.
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Sometimes, one of them doesn’t want to tell his partner that he’s wrong. It can get awkward. Yes, it took a minute, but Hummel finally said that the foul reset it.
 
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Volswami said:
ZZ's fifth foul he was running away from the guy and got pushed down and they called the foul on him?
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That is standard. Contact with the offensive player driving with your back turned is on the defense. It eliminates being in a "legal guarding position".
 
#64
#64
Players have bad games. Coaches have bad games. NCAA refs have bad games.

But the major conferences, with the greedy administrations and coaches taking the bulk of the huge revenue, aren’t going to spend the money to have full time, professional refs.
 
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#72
Nothing I didn't expect. My wife and I were having dinner at a restaurant tonight and watched the game on their TV. I told her not too long in, "They're going to have to play like #1 tonight, because this is five against eight on the road." They had to beat Illinois, the B1G refs, and that crowd. We didn't know the game was going to be on, but in a stroke of good luck, Kay was wearing the right shade of orange.
 
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#73
#73
I don’t understand how refs can think this style is good for the sport. It makes for a terrible TV program. Constant stoppage just kills the flow and entertainment. I’m going to watch because I love the Vols but I don’t see how this product grows the audience.
 
#74
#74
Refs really cooled off in the second half had 45 free throws attempted in the first half only ended up with 64 for the game. I thought it was going to be close to 100. It was a physical game and you must call the hard fouls, but they need to let those little bumps and hand checks go and keep playing.
 
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