Wonder if Milton could throw a baseball…

[Fullfillmer]

While maybe not pitchers, playing baseball has worked well for several recent QBs like Kyler Murray, Mahomes, and Josh Dobbs.

Condridge played ss, Randy Wallace 3b, both were qb's here. There is a very funny story about the one time that Condridge pitched for UT. If I get enough encouragement I will share. Very reminiscent of the video's above.

 

[Orange-heart]

Would be a very interesting concept. I don't think his throwing the fastball would be an issue. Conceptually he might throw it over 100. Trying to teach him to hit the strike zone and mix in off speed and breaking balls - no bueno.

I’ve seen scouts draft guys that throw hard that can’t pitch and I asked one of them about it - the answer was that they can teach them to pitch but can’t help them much to increase velocity.

 

[The Original Fade]

Throwing a baseball 300 ft is equivalent to about an 80 mph fastball. A baseball weighs 9 oz and football almost a pound. He could probably throw a baseball 100 mph, but he doesn't know where it's going. The throwing motion for QB's rarely translates to pitching for some reason. Elway was an outfielder. Brady was a catcher. Helton and Marino were pitchers too, but primarily position players. Kenny Stabler was actually drafted 3 years in a row by MLB teams as a left handed pitcher. The Astros picked him in the first round in 68 but offered less money than the Raiders.

A baseball weighs 5 oz

 

[Fullfillmer]

Michigan expert breaks down new Tennessee quarterback Joe Milton - Rocky Top Talk

Milton has everything you want in a raw quarterback prospect. He’s a good leader that people seem to rally behind. He has the physique of a Cam Newton or Josh Allen. He has the arm to throw a pigskin a quarter mile. I think the biggest thing that worked against him was his poor accuracy. He missed a good amount of throws, but the guy we saw Week 1 against Minnesota never appeared again. The second Michigan made a QB change, they started to move the ball more consistently. I don’t think he does the little things well enough despite oozing with talent.

• Dating back to high school days, the knock on Milton has always been that he threw too much of a fastball and did not put enough arc or touch on many of his throws. He *can* do this, but he was super inconsistent. I still think the talent is there for him to improve here because I was not super fond of the quarterback coaching he got in Ann Arbor.
• Milton certainly fell victim to the hype train. Fans started to refer to him as the next Cam Newton and his teammates raved about how great he looked in practices. That created an insanely impossible bar to live up to, but I don’t think that bothered him. I would just say that if the practice reports out of Knoxville are good, be cautiously optimistic instead of completely bought in.

I fear some on Vol Nation have also jumped aboard the hype train. Will be interesting to see how he plays in the bowl game and against Florida our first SEC opponent next season.

 

[tombowalker]

Since Joe Milton either throws a Hail Mary or fastball with a football, Vitello should put a radar gun on him throwing a baseball. I’ve never seen anything like how far he can throw a football. When my son was a pitcher, the coach would often have him throw a football to increase velocity.

He's way too late in the game for that. But sure, if baseball had been his priority, he has the raw tools

 

[Panthro]

He actually can’t throw a baseball. He has tried but it resembles Smalls when he first visits The Sandlot. So weird!

 

[Fullfillmer]

I’ve seen scouts draft guys that throw hard that can’t pitch and I asked one of them about it - the answer was that they can teach them to pitch but can’t help them much to increase velocity.

To some degree that is true. Pitching is also a chess match - and good pitchers are constantly evaluating where the batter in standing, what the count is, which corner are the trying to hit, are they pitching off the plate and not hitting a corner (nibbling), how can they mix their pitches to keep the batter off stride, etc. etc. If you can zip it up there at 105 like our pitcher last year -- then less reaction time for the batter, but he still needs to be able to mix it up which they potentially can teach to some degree. You have to be able to get that 105 across or in the vicinity of the plate most of the time as well. If Joe could throw it 102 plus it becomes pretty interesting. Rocker at Vanderbilt has a similar build.

 

[Vanhalo]

I fear some on Vol Nation have also jumped aboard the hype train. Will be interesting to see how he plays in the bowl game and against Florida our first SEC opponent next season.

We already did, this will be round two.

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[Fullfillmer]

He actually can’t throw a baseball. He has tried but it resembles Smalls when he first visits The Sandlot. So weird!

I can believe it. He was probably never taught the basics. It's a different flow, rythm, release point etc. I am sure someone can teach him to throw better than Smalls Smalls got better with a little encouragement. He should be focused on throwing footballs for strikes. Once he has that mastered we can move him over to baseball. Then the shot put and javelin throw.

 

[Fullfillmer]

We already did, this will be round two.

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Unless he absolutely smokes it against Clemson or Ohio State in the bowl game, there will likely be a spirited competition in the spring. The other two guys are extremely gifted.
Should be fun. I don't think that they will go with the guy that throws it the farthest. ;-) I.e. punt, pass, and kick competition.

 

[AthensVol2007]

“Walked 18… new league record. Also struck out 18, a new league record. In addition he hit a sportswriter, the PA announcer and the Bull mascot twice”.

Best line sequence is:

“Hit me in the chest with that”

“I’d kill you”

“Oh yeah, from what I hear you couldn’t hit water if you fell out of f***ing boat. Throw it, right here. In the chest Meat come on.”

 

[UTblood4life]

It would go threw catchers MIT and kills the umpire

 

[Fightmaker]

I saw Bernie Carbo throw a strike to Ted Simmons from right field near the track... on the fly.

Dale Murphy once threw a player out at home plate from the warning track. Perfect strike on a rope. He also threw a one hopper over the wall as a catcher while trying to throw out a runner going for a stolen base. Throwing accuracy is a weird thing.

 

[volfanhill]

Dale Murphy once threw a player out at home plate from the warning track. Perfect strike on a rope. He also threw a one hopper over the wall as a catcher while trying to throw out a runner going for a stolen base. Throwing accuracy is a weird thing.

Trey?

 

[vol66]

Be interesting if Frank Anderson had a go of it. In CFA, I trust!!! If it’s mechanics, Anderson would have a good shot at fixing it. Football wise, it’s definitely mechanics.

I’m gonna wait and see what a month of straight up being the number one guy looks like. Maybe the offense gets tailored more towards his skill set? We’ll see.

GBO!!!

 

[m1al]

Best line sequence is:

“Hit me in the chest with that”

“I’d kill you”

“Oh yeah, from what I hear you couldn’t hit water if you fell out of f***ing boat. Throw it, right here. In the chest Meat come on.”

Ebby Calvin "Nuke" LaLoosh

 

[m1al]

Dale Murphy once threw a player out at home plate from the warning track. Perfect strike on a rope. He also threw a one hopper over the wall as a catcher while trying to throw out a runner going for a stolen base. Throwing accuracy is a weird thing.

One of the most impressive throws I've seen was Larry Walker throw a guy out at third with frozen rope from the corner of right field. Third baseman barely had to move his glove...

 

[sonofUT62]

Best line sequence is:

“Hit me in the chest with that”

“I’d kill you”

“Oh yeah, from what I hear you couldn’t hit water if you fell out of f***ing boat. Throw it, right here. In the chest Meat come on.”

“I wouldn’t dig in too deep. I’ve got no idea where he’s gonna throw it. Swear to God”.

 

[Fightmaker]

Trey?

??

 

[HooahVol]

I am late to this thread but I cracked up when I saw it. I have thought this a hundred times watching him throw with that cannon of his.

 

[kiddiedoc]

Can Rod Wilks play catcher?

 

[HooahVol]

BTW, since we are talking football players, baseball and cannons lets not forget our good friend Bo Jackson:

 

[ksgovols]

A baseball weighs 5 oz

Duh. Yeah, you're right. It's 9" in circumference. My bad.

Point being it should be easier to throw a lighter ball further and so with more velo, aerodynamic parameters excluded for this debate.

 

[ksgovols]

He may have the arm to throw in the 90s but I doubt he has the mechanics to throw 100. Especially being 6’5. That’s A lot of **** to have to tuck in.

Randy Johnson is 6'-10", Aroldis Chapman is 6'-4". Length is tough on command, but it's an advantage for velo.

 

[ksgovols]

That would depend on how quickly that baseball travelled 300 feet and how flat the arc of that throw was. To this day, I have never seen an outfielder with an arm the equal of Roberto Clemente's.

Dave Parker had the strongest right field arm I ever saw, but there's no question that Clemente had a better arm as far as accuracy went.

The 300 ft rule is solely on strength. If you have the strength to throw a baseball 300 ft, you're in the 77-82 mph range. Period. Naturally, the lower the arc, the harder you are throwing. Long toss routines are designed to gain arm strength and velo.