Wonder what Bruce Pearl thinks of this?

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transammann said:
I guess Nebraska is rare also
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That's the fault of Nebraska's AD, who fired a coach 4 seasons removed from a conference championship, 2 removed from a national title game, 2 removed from 3 straight top 10 finishes, who had one 7-7 season, but other than that finished with less than 10 wins in the whole season only once. Why? In the paraphrased words of said brilliant AD, he wouldn't allow Nebraska to slip into mediocrity. So he hired an NFL reject who proceeded to accumulate such records for Nebraska as most touchdowns allowed in a game, most points allowed in a first half, most points allowed in a game (all of those in the same afternoon), first time in 50 years that Nebraska had five straight losses, and so on.

Nebraska's problem was not akin to ours. Nebraska's athletic director irresponsibly jumped the gun and fired a coach who had done pretty well, all things considered, because 9 wins was apparently too mediocre. We are 10 years removed from a conference title, 7 years from a top 10 finish, and we have won fewer than 10 games in the regular season a whopping 5 times since we last won a title of any meaning.
 
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#27
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GoBigOrange86 said:
That's the fault of Nebraska's AD, who fired a coach 4 seasons removed from a conference championship, 2 removed from a national title game, 2 removed from 3 straight top 10 finishes, who had one 7-7 season, but other than that finished with less than 10 wins in the whole season only once. Why? In the paraphrased words of said brilliant AD, he wouldn't allow Nebraska to slip into mediocrity. So he hired an NFL reject who proceeded to accumulate such records for Nebraska as most touchdowns allowed in a game, most points allowed in a first half, most points allowed in a game (all of those in the same afternoon), first time in 50 years that Nebraska had five straight losses, and so on.

Nebraska's problem was not akin to ours. Nebraska's athletic director irresponsibly jumped the gun and fired a coach who had done pretty well, all things considered, because 9 wins was apparently too mediocre. We are 10 years removed from a conference title, 7 years from a top 10 finish, and we have won fewer than 10 games in the regular season a whopping 5 times since we last won a title of any meaning.
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Fixed it fer ya
 
#30
#30
I did notice that "Trans Am Mann" got quiet when the numbers came out.

Then again, he's offline now, so...

probably having quiche at the Fulmer compound.

go vols.
 
#31
#31
If you translate Fulmer's decade into their rough basketball equivalents, it would look something like:

2000 eliminated 1st round of tournament
2001 made sweet 16; choked in next game
2002 NIT
2003 eliminated 1st round of tourney
2004 eliminated 2nd round of tourney
2005 losing season
2006 eliminated 1st round of tourney
2007 eliminated 2nd round of tourney
2008 on a path for a losing season

I doubt Pearl would expect to keep his job if he did that.
 
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#32
#32
If Pearl becomes completely irrelevant year after year in SEC or national competition, then I would expect the same results for him.
 
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#36
Anyone else find it interesting that the same guy who started this thread, also started the ''Who will go to the Kentucky game, Fulmer's last"? That thread made it seem like he knew Fulmer would be gone and he was ok with it, this thread seems to be pro-Fulmer...I'm confused.
 
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transammann said:
I wouldnt call this piss poor

I-A Winning Percentage 1998-2007 (10 years)
(Teams not qualifying for the table are listed at the bottom.)
Rank Team name Winning
Percentage Games
Won Games
Lost Games
Tied Games
Played
1 Boise State 0.81102 103 24 0 127
2 Texas 0.80469 103 25 0 128
3 Oklahoma 0.78462 102 28 0 130
4 Ohio State 0.78400 98 27 0 125
5 Virginia Tech 0.77344 99 29 0 128
6 Georgia 0.76378 97 30 0 127
7 Miami-Florida 0.75806 94 30 0 124
8 Southern Cal 0.74803 95 32 0 127
9 Michigan 0.74400 93 32 0 125
10t Florida 0.73228 93 34 0 127
10t Tennessee 0.73228 93 34 0 127


I-A Winning Percentage 1998-2007


A 0.73228 win % last 10 years
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transammann;1769379:

Maybe you are on Fulmers payroll. Who knows who you are. But, if you are a true Vol fan. And, you are happy with NO SEC Titles in 10 years. Maybe you need to support Vandy, Kentucky, Arkansas, Ole Miss, or Miss State. Us true Vol fans expect more out of a Traditioned National Elite Powerhouse.

You can't include 1998 for the 10 year rankings. Here is Fulmer's record the last 10 years. Assuming we go 6-6. I don't see anyway we win out. We will drop a game to USC, VU, or UK.

I-A Winning Percentage 1999-2007 (9 years)
(Teams not qualifying for the table are listed at the bottom)

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Rank Team name Win-Pct Won Lost Tied Games
---- ----------------------- ------- ---- ---- ---- -----
1 Boise State 0.83478 96 19 0 115
2 Oklahoma 0.81513 97 22 0 119
3 Texas 0.81034 94 22 0 116
4 Virginia Tech 0.77586 90 26 0 116
5 Ohio State 0.76991 87 26 0 113
6 Georgia 0.76522 88 27 0 115
7 Southern Cal 0.76316 87 27 0 114
8 Miami-Florida 0.75893 85 27 0 112
9 Michigan 0.74107 83 29 0 112
10 Louisiana State 0.73913 85 30 0 115
11 Texas Christian 0.72727 80 30 0 110
12 Louisville 0.72321 81 31 0 112
13 Florida 0.72174 83 32 0 115
14 Auburn 0.70796 80 33 0 113
15 Florida State 0.70435 81 34 0 115
16 Tennessee 0.70175 80 34 0 114

6-6 will give Fulmer a record of 86-40 or .68253. If, Saban would have been at Bama, Petrino at Arkansas, Nutt at Miss, Brooks at UK, Miles at LSU, and Spurrier at USC the last 10 years. Fulmer is probably in the bottom third in the SEC in winning percentage!!! Regardless, Fulmer hasn't faired well against Richt and Meyer.

How can we win an SEC Title or National Title? When we can't even beat UF and UGA consistently. WE CAN'T. FULMER IS WASHED UP AND HAS TO GO!!!

I-A Winning Percentage 1999-2007
 
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volsgrad89 said:
transammann;1769379:

Maybe you are on Fulmers payroll. Who knows who you are. But, if you are a true Vol fan. And, you are happy with NO SEC Titles in 10 years. Maybe you need to support Vandy, Kentucky, Arkansas, Ole Miss, or Miss State. Us true Vol fans expect more out of a Traditioned National Elite Powerhouse.

You can't include 1998 for the 10 year rankings. Here is Fulmer's record the last 10 years. Assuming we go 6-6. I don't see anyway we win out. We will drop a game to USC, VU, or UK.

I-A Winning Percentage 1999-2007 (9 years)
(Teams not qualifying for the table are listed at the bottom)

---- ----------------------- ------- ---- ---- ---- -----
Rank Team name Win-Pct Won Lost Tied Games
---- ----------------------- ------- ---- ---- ---- -----
1 Boise State 0.83478 96 19 0 115
2 Oklahoma 0.81513 97 22 0 119
3 Texas 0.81034 94 22 0 116
4 Virginia Tech 0.77586 90 26 0 116
5 Ohio State 0.76991 87 26 0 113
6 Georgia 0.76522 88 27 0 115
7 Southern Cal 0.76316 87 27 0 114
8 Miami-Florida 0.75893 85 27 0 112
9 Michigan 0.74107 83 29 0 112
10 Louisiana State 0.73913 85 30 0 115
11 Texas Christian 0.72727 80 30 0 110
12 Louisville 0.72321 81 31 0 112
13 Florida 0.72174 83 32 0 115
14 Auburn 0.70796 80 33 0 113
15 Florida State 0.70435 81 34 0 115
16 Tennessee 0.70175 80 34 0 114

6-6 will give Fulmer a record of 86-40 or .68253. If, Saban would have been at Bama, Petrino at Arkansas, Nutt at Miss, Brooks at UK, Miles at LSU, and Spurrier at USC the last 10 years. Fulmer is probably in the bottom third in the SEC in winning percentage!!! Regardless, Fulmer hasn't faired well against Richt and Meyer.

How can we win an SEC Title or National Title? When we can't even beat UF and UGA consistently. WE CAN'T. FULMER IS WASHED UP AND HAS TO GO!!!

I-A Winning Percentage 1999-2007
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While I agree with your general point, Fulmer has held his own against Richt. There have been some bad losses there, but we have handed them some bad losses, too.
 
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Yeah im sure Bruce's heart goes out to Fulmer.
He looks across the hallway and sees a man with top recruiting classes year in and year out, helluva fanbase, budget that rivals Air Force spending.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
If you translate Fulmer's decade into their rough basketball equivalents, it would look something like:

2000 eliminated 1st round of tournament
2001 made sweet 16; choked in next game
2002 NIT
2003 eliminated 1st round of tourney
2004 eliminated 2nd round of tourney
2005 losing season
2006 eliminated 1st round of tourney
2007 eliminated 2nd round of tourney
2008 on a path for a losing season

I doubt Pearl would expect to keep his job if he did that.
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It would have been easier to say Fulmer=Tubby Smith
 
#43
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velovol said:
It would have been easier to say Fulmer=Tubby Smith
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Fulmer and Tubby Smith aren't anything alike.

Tubby doesn't pander to kids and has a defense first philosophy, so his recruiting suffers. The coaching itself is top notch.

Fulmer will pander to anyone breathing and that has helped his recruiting. He is an overly conservative coach who has no accountability mechanism for players, enforces no discipline and genuinely struggles to coach with the good ones in our league.

The results might be similar, but the coaches couldn't be more different. Hence, Tubby can probably coach elsewhere and make a mediocre team (like MN) better. Fulmer ain't gonna make anybody better.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
If you translate Fulmer's decade into their rough basketball equivalents, it would look something like:

2000 eliminated 1st round of tournament
2001 made sweet 16; choked in next game
2002 NIT
2003 eliminated 1st round of tourney
2004 eliminated 2nd round of tourney
2005 losing season
2006 eliminated 1st round of tourney
2007 eliminated 2nd round of tourney
2008 on a path for a losing season

I doubt Pearl would expect to keep his job if he did that.
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'01 would be considered a Final Four appearance, we were one game away from the championship.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
Fulmer and Tubby Smith aren't anything alike.

Tubby doesn't pander to kids and has a defense first philosophy, so his recruiting suffers. The coaching itself is top notch.

Fulmer will pander to anyone breathing and that has helped his recruiting. He is an overly conservative coach who has no accountability mechanism for players, enforces no discipline and genuinely struggles to coach with the good ones in our league.

The results might be similar, but the coaches couldn't be more different. Hence, Tubby can probably coach elsewhere and make a mediocre team (like MN) better. Fulmer ain't gonna make anybody better.
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Tubby took Tulsa and Georgia to the Sweet 16 and won 20 games in his first year at Minnesota. Put Fulmer in charge of the football equivalent of those three programs and watch 4-8 seasons ensue.
 
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transammann said:
I wouldnt call this piss poor

I-A Winning Percentage 1998-2007 (10 years)
(Teams not qualifying for the table are listed at the bottom.)
Rank Team name Winning
Percentage Games
Won Games
Lost Games
Tied Games
Played
1 Boise State 0.81102 103 24 0 127
2 Texas 0.80469 103 25 0 128
3 Oklahoma 0.78462 102 28 0 130
4 Ohio State 0.78400 98 27 0 125
5 Virginia Tech 0.77344 99 29 0 128
6 Georgia 0.76378 97 30 0 127
7 Miami-Florida 0.75806 94 30 0 124
8 Southern Cal 0.74803 95 32 0 127
9 Michigan 0.74400 93 32 0 125
10t Florida 0.73228 93 34 0 127
10t Tennessee 0.73228 93 34 0 127


I-A Winning Percentage 1998-2007


A 0.73228 win % last 10 years
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How many of those teams went to BCS bowl games? :unsure:
 
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#47
Vercingetorix said:
If you translate Fulmer's decade into their rough basketball equivalents, it would look something like:

2000 eliminated 1st round of tournament
2001 made sweet 16; choked in next game
2002 NIT
2003 eliminated 1st round of tourney
2004 eliminated 2nd round of tourney
2005 losing season
2006 eliminated 1st round of tourney
2007 eliminated 2nd round of tourney
2008 on a path for a losing season

I doubt Pearl would expect to keep his job if he did that.
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I would go with:
2000: Sweet 16
2001: Elite Eight (or Final Four, considering the circumstances)
2002: Second Round
2003: Second Round
2004: Elite Eight
2005: missed NCAA and NIT
2006: Sweet 16
2007: Elite Eight

I compare the SEC CG to the Elite Eight, because of where you will be if you win.
Don't get me wrong - I agree with your entire premise - I just wanted to interject my own comparison.
 
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