Worley Haters

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Our offense and defense have operating from a limited play book, look for much more against the ducks. :yes:
 
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WoodsmanVol said:
Worley haters! You people are full of it. Worley obviously isn’t a flashy QB. He’s obviously not a big play QB. I have questioned his arm myself in the past, very recent past at that. But watching the WKU I saw things you people shouldn’t blame the QB for and CBJ actually said as much last week.

Yes, he over threw at least twice WR that saw during endzone pass plays. But most of his passes were on the money and just plain dropped. It looked like if he had mailed the darn ball via express mail with the mail man personally handing the thing to the WR is only way they’d catch it. Or maybe Bat Masterson the freaking ball. You know, wear a cane and derby hate, stroll down the broadwalk and hand the ball to the receivers. Maybe duct tape the ball to their hands to make sure they didn’t drop it even then.

They drop those balls against Oregon and we will have azzes knocked off and we won’t get them back. It’s not the QB you Worley hating gooks, it’s the receivers.

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Justin, calm down. Don't get all butt hurt bro. Just get better.
 
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Mallicoat said:
No disrespect. Worsley is a brother vol.. all of you must remember that! He is giving his all.. He will improve thru trial and error.. Only thing I see is a problem with the long ball. Otherwise he is doing a good job for time on the field. Play calling was not as good with wku as A pee. I would like to see a solid running game, screens short passes. Worsley did a good job running the ball. Need to get the ball to Pig more. He will prove to be a big player by season end.
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I do not recall this
 
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VolGee4 said:
I love how this is always the response. Posters have been calling for a change at QB- not a discussion on why the freshmen aren't playing. That is ludicrous, and everyone else has reason to respond the way they do.
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I simply asked a question to generate some debate and you're acting like a 2 year old.
 
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Worley's weak (not speaking of accuracy) throws are when he fails to step into it...especially shows when rushed.
 
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bobbyutvol said:
Weak arm passes are not getting to the receivers
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I think that he has decent zip on the ball when he is set and steps into the throw. His arm strength alone isn't enough to make up for being off balance or when he is too rushed to set up properly. That is when his passes have been short.
 
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Ah, another "don't blame Worley, blame the receivers" thread. Anyone and his brother can see the issue when Worley throws a ball two yards behind the receiver or when he just hurls a ball into double coverage without even looking.

What is the subtext to these threads? Is it a black/white thing? Or is there a greater tendency to man-crush on a QB than a receiving corps?
 
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I have never bashed the kid; I just do not think he is the answer with our passing game. Are the others? Since they are not starting I would assume not, meaning.... our passing game will suffer until our timing between the QB and receivers come together. You never know though, it could happen next week or next year.
I am rooting for Worley though as we all should as Vols.
 
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Mallicoat said:
No disrespect. Worsley is a brother vol.. all of you must remember that! He is giving his all.. He will improve thru trial and error.. Only thing I see is a problem with the long ball. Otherwise he is doing a good job for time on the field. Play calling was not as good with wku as A pee. I would like to see a solid running game, screens short passes. Worsley did a good job running the ball. Need to get the ball to Pig more. He will prove to be a big player by season end.
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I believe Worley did not run the ball any this past game or at least to the AP game. He did do a great job handing the ball off though FWIW.
 
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WoodsmanVol, you need to watch the game again.

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37:45 - That's a bad throw, can't blame the receiver

38:20 - Another bad throw, can't blame the receiver

53:20 - Can't blame Worley for that one, he got hit as he threw it, great play by the receiver

56:50 - He was pressured and forced to throw it, not a good play, poor execution (whole offense's fault, not just Worley)

1:09:45 - Solid throw, solid catch, good play

1:21:30 - Terrible throw, terrible decision, lucky it wasn't intercepted

1:39:05 - Another terrible throw, should've been a first down instead of a 5 yard gain

1:40:00 - Perfect throw, just dropped, first mistake by a receiver

1:48:40 - Solid throw, just an excellent (maybe lucky) defensive play

END FIRST HALF

2:19:30 - I'm not sure what was supposed to happen on this play, but you can't argue with success on a long throw.

2:38:45 - Good throw, good catch, good play

2:40:10 - Incomplete fade route, overthrown slightly, any QB can make that mistake, nobody's perfect, not a big deal

2:40:50 - Nothing wrong with this throw, also good catch

2:41:25 - Good throw and catch again

2:49:50 - Screen play, executed well

2:53:50 - Screen pass, executed well again

2:55:20 - Terrible INT throw into double coverage

3:08:50 - Excellent throw, clean catch

3:13:55 - 2 yard TD to the TE

NO MORE PASS PLAYS

So tell me, WoodsmanVol, where exactly are the bad plays by the receivers? I counted 1 drop. Other than that, they played very well.

As far as Worley goes, he had a bad 1st half (4 bad, really inaccurate throws), but recovered and played very well in the 2nd half (only 1 bad throw in the 2nd half). I hope he will continue to improve.
 
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it still really bothers me that as soon as the pocket begins to collapse he just throws it up for grabs instead of stepping into the throw and taking the hit. and now we start real games this week. all of those backfoot scared throws will be INTs. if he makes good decisions i can live with the weak arm.
 
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Rudy123 said:
I think we all realize that some of our wins will be by just a few points and that some of our loses will be by a few points.

If we have a poorly performing q.b., who isn't making good throws, then a couple of bad passes could very well cost us a win, thus be the difference between us qualifying for a bowl game. The margin of error will be small. However; if Worley played better, then it would be a big difference.....
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OK. So you would be one of the brilliant ones to stick a Freshman in there? What a ********.
 
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WoodsmanVol said:
Worley haters! You people are full of it. Worley obviously isn’t a flashy QB. He’s obviously not a big play QB. I have questioned his arm myself in the past, very recent past at that. But watching the WKU I saw things you people shouldn’t blame the QB for and CBJ actually said as much last week.

Yes, he over threw at least twice WR that saw during endzone pass plays. But most of his passes were on the money and just plain dropped. It looked like if he had mailed the darn ball via express mail with the mail man personally handing the thing to the WR is only way they’d catch it. Or maybe Bat Masterson the freaking ball. You know, wear a cane and derby hate, stroll down the broadwalk and hand the ball to the receivers. Maybe duct tape the ball to their hands to make sure they didn’t drop it even then.

They drop those balls against Oregon and we will have azzes knocked off and we won’t get them back. It’s not the QB you Worley haters, it’s the receivers.

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I'm sorry, but give it a few days and it will all make sense to you. When it does, you will understand why Worley is such a below average QB.
 
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Worley missed several reads on UT’s oft-used option. He was also slow to get the ball out of the pocket on a handful of occasions. I was like damn it, man! Because Justin Worley's overthrown/underthrown which could been big play or easy TD. Hopefully, Worley speed it up to work on his weakness ASAP!

BTW, I don't think it's WR(s) problem at all, might run wrong routes several times, but other than that, they're doing good job so far. Probably the youngest WR(s) in SEC nation tho'...
 
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It's not Worleys fault. He is just playing the wrong position. He should be holding the ball for extra points.
 
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WoodsmanVol said:
Worley haters! You people are full of it. Worley obviously isn’t a flashy QB. He’s obviously not a big play QB. I have questioned his arm myself in the past, very recent past at that. But watching the WKU I saw things you people shouldn’t blame the QB for and CBJ actually said as much last week.

Yes, he over threw at least twice WR that saw during endzone pass plays. But most of his passes were on the money and just plain dropped. It looked like if he had mailed the darn ball via express mail with the mail man personally handing the thing to the WR is only way they’d catch it. Or maybe Bat Masterson the freaking ball. You know, wear a cane and derby hate, stroll down the broadwalk and hand the ball to the receivers. Maybe duct tape the ball to their hands to make sure they didn’t drop it even then.

They drop those balls against Oregon and we will have azzes knocked off and we won’t get them back. It’s not the QB you Worley haters, it’s the receivers.

[NOTE: The words Duct and Tape appear as a link. Should not because I didn't invoke the link request. Do not click it.]
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So North hasnt bailed out Worley the past 2 wees? If he doesnt badly underthrow Johnson that is a touchdown and against a secondary with speed that pass is intercepted. Yes Croom dropped one and had a cpl dropped but is missing receivers high, low and behind them and with very little arm strength. He also throws flatfooded and off his backfoot, if you do that you have to have a strong arm and that he doesn't have.
 
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WoodsmanVol said:
Worley haters! You people are full of it. Worley obviously isn’t a flashy QB. He’s obviously not a big play QB. I have questioned his arm myself in the past, very recent past at that. But watching the WKU I saw things you people shouldn’t blame the QB for and CBJ actually said as much last week.

Yes, he over threw at least twice WR that saw during endzone pass plays. But most of his passes were on the money and just plain dropped. It looked like if he had mailed the darn ball via express mail with the mail man personally handing the thing to the WR is only way they’d catch it. Or maybe Bat Masterson the freaking ball. You know, wear a cane and derby hate, stroll down the broadwalk and hand the ball to the receivers. Maybe duct tape the ball to their hands to make sure they didn’t drop it even then.

They drop those balls against Oregon and we will have azzes knocked off and we won’t get them back. It’s not the QB you Worley haters, it’s the receivers.

[NOTE: The words Duct and Tape appear as a link. Should not because I didn't invoke the link request. Do not click it.]
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I have a suggestion...let the receivers run their routes and then back up three steps and then the passes would be on target......
 
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It's like the saying goes "The backup QB is the most popular player on the team." Well in the case of Volnation it's the 3rd or 4th string freshman QB.
 
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Marquez North has been robbed of 4 TDs because of Worley's poor throws. Because of that we are missing out on threads saying North is better than Rice and Moss. Thanks Worley.
 
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I didn't know if this had been posted yet but here are the numbers for 2 games.

Worley-22 of 32-246yds 68.8% 4tds 1int 5 rushes for 20 yds

stats are good.he wasn't very good in the first half but i thought he really stepped it up in the second half yesterday.maybe, we will see growth week to week.that's what i'm hoping anyway.

I think Worley sees the field very well and he knows his limitations.he has thrown the ball behind some receivers but they weren't bad decisions.he had one bad decision yesterday throwing into double coverage but even the best qbs make those mistakes.
 
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I see Worley the first miss CBJ has made so far. Not the way most of you feel, I think Coach should of call the #1 QB a week earlier then he did and got Worley more work to get his timing down with starting players. I feel he looked good 2nd. half of last game and will get better as year goes on.
 
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VolWonder said:
Worleys arm looked great with throws under 15 yards. Throws that went over 15 yards the jury is still out on.
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I really believe its a timing and confidence issue. Struggling right now with his confidence in the pocket with throwing any route that "needs time to develop". That's leading to him holding the ball way too long and then under throwing or throwing behind his receiver on the deeper routes. Jmo.
 
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