Worst excuse for an offense/QBs

[Lexvol]

Perhaps what we are seeing is the result of all the green jerseys in practice. Maybe if Mahelona were able to hit Ainge once and a while, his happy feet would go away.

 

[tarnishedforever]

Originally posted by Lexvol@Oct 30, 2005 8:51 AM
Welcome aboard.  There are several here that will agree with you.  The QB problem this year rests entirely on RS shoulders.  It is unbelievable that the kid has gotten worse.

I hope that you continue to post.

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That is true. The qb's don't have a chance. The same plays regardless of who is qb'ing. Opponents know that and they also know that by the time the plays are sent in from the bench what they are and that the qb's will not have time to call an audible. Lucky to get the plays off. Most of the time the defense is in position where the ball is to be thrown before the receiver is.
Ainge has never had a chance. No support from line or receivers and total lack of confidence from the coaches. Any good player goes below average when they know if they make 1 mistake they will be benched. Even pros get to play through bad slumps.

 

[VOL-n-a-gator-land]

Good evening, all. I am a first-time poster here and have been a VOL fan my entire life. Unfortunately I live in Florida now, in the midst of these God-forsaken gator fans and let me tell you, it has been hard being a VOL fan this year. I cannot tell you the phone calls I have received today, laughing hysterically that "the Vols couldn't beat Spurrier and Florida, and now they still can't beat him and a pathetic South Carolina team" :banghead:

I definitely feel that responsibility for this disastrous year starts with the coaches. I have never felt like if we lose a game that we should fire the coaches. However, I feel the reason why our offense is so inept is because there has not been a true decision taken by the coaches on the QB situation.. even when decisions were made, it was almost like if there was an interception thrown, that QB was very uncomfortable in his position - that he could be jerked out the next series and replaced...leading to the fact that they aren't truly comfortable in their role and all that filters down to the receivers and offensive line.

I hope to see some REAL changes made! Not just talk of "looking at changes" but REAL changes. I don't look for us to win another game...although I will be cheering them on, no matter what... I could never wish for the Vols to lose, however, what happens if they pull out a miraculous (and I do mean miraculous) win against Notre Dame? Will all this talking of coaching changes be for nought and we go back to the same ridiculous play calling and mindset that has dragged us to the bottom??? :question:

Thanks for listening - I've been about sick all day that we actually lost to them. I wasn't surprised, just completely sickened!!!

Still love the VOLS!

 

[ut_is_terrible]

Lest we not forget that Vandy had over 330 yards passing (their frosh receiver had over 200 yds) and dominated time of possession against SC last week, and Clausen/Ainge dont even combine for 100. Its not like SC has a great defense or anything. What happened to Ainge's preseason prediction that the offense can be "scary good" with all the receivers they have. Has anyone else ever noticed that the stats for the receivers are the same pretty much every game, it seems like about 8 different guys will catch a pass and leading receiver will have about 3 or 4 catches, never for signficant yardage.

 

[OWB]

Originally posted by VOL-n-a-gator-land@Oct 30, 2005 5:24 PM
Good evening, all.  I am a first-time poster here and have been a VOL fan my entire life.  Unfortunately I live in Florida now, in the midst of these God-forsaken gator fans and let me tell you, it has been hard being a VOL fan this year.  I cannot tell you the phone calls I have received today, laughing hysterically that "the Vols couldn't beat Spurrier and Florida, and now they still can't beat him and a pathetic South Carolina team"  :banghead: 

I definitely feel that responsibility for this disastrous year starts with the coaches.  I have never felt like if we lose a game that we should fire the coaches.  However, I feel the reason why our offense is so inept is because there has not been a true decision taken by the coaches on the QB situation.. even when decisions were made, it was almost like if there was an interception thrown, that QB was very uncomfortable in his position - that he could be jerked out the next series and replaced...leading to the fact that they aren't truly comfortable in their role and all that filters down to the receivers and offensive line. 

I hope to see some REAL changes made!  Not just talk of "looking at changes" but REAL changes.  I don't look for us to win another game...although I will be cheering them on, no matter what... I could never wish for the Vols to lose, however, what happens if they pull out a miraculous (and I do mean miraculous) win against Notre Dame?  Will all this talking of coaching changes be for nought and we  go back to the same ridiculous play calling and mindset that has dragged us to the bottom???  :question:

Thanks for listening - I've been about sick all day that we actually lost to them.  I wasn't surprised, just completely sickened!!! 

Still love the VOLS!

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Welcome to the board. I feel your pain. :ill_h4h:

 

[volinbham]

I have to say that the description "Ainge project" fits exactly what I was thinking last night.

He wasn't on the money and it wasn't receivers dropping balls - he overthrew two open receivers in the endzone, overthrew a wide open safety valve that would have been a first down. Threw behind receivers and ahead of receivers.

Project is the right word because PF has continually believed that Ainge will come around and he keeps putting him in. Ainge's first drive was fine then he stunk it up drive after drive - we squandered field position in order to work on the "project". SEC opponents are not practice time.

Gottfried said he would have done the same thing but it was clear that PF was going to play Ainge until 1) he did got it turned around (didn't happen) or 2) we lost the lead (did happen).

When RC came in, it was too late.

 

[OWB]

Originally posted by volinbham@Oct 30, 2005 9:41 PM
He wasn't on the money and it wasn't receivers dropping balls - he overthrew two open receivers in the endzone, overthrew a wide open safety valve that would have been a first down.  Threw behind receivers and ahead of receivers. 

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I agree with what you say but I would also like to address the fact that our receivers seem to be lacking something other than the QB getting them the ball.

I think that Swain might have been able to snatch the fade thrown to him and be able to keep a foot down with a little more effort. Of course it's easy for me to sit here and say that while it's much more difficult for the player etc etc...

There was another decent pass to the endzone but I forget the receiver who was there and couldn't make the play. I believe it was Smith who watched the ball fall right in front of his fingertips. Fulmer himself said that he should caught that ball.

For the most part, none of our receivers seem to making any plays on the ball. The QB isn't going to deliver on the money every throw. The great receivers adjust, whether it be speeding up, slowing down, diving etc...

It almost seems as if our receivers have the attitude of throw the ball where I can get it or don't bother me with it.

Ainge still had plenty of bad throws, but a couple of them could have be TD's if one had 6 inches less and the other had 6 inches less. :twocents:

 

[GAVol]

Originally posted by Orangewhiteblood@Oct 30, 2005 10:03 PM
For the most part, none of our receivers seem to making any plays on the ball.

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Agreed 100%. NOBODY is making plays right now. There were plenty of bad throws, but there were also some marginal throws that could have been salvaged. They would have been great catches, but every once in awhile that is what a receiver is supposed to be able to do.

 

[rockydoc]

Seemed like he (Ainge) has bad hands, bobbling snaps etc. Maybe just nerves. Why do they always seem to roll him to the left? Being a righty he could square his body better rolling to the right.

 

[volinbham]

Watching the replay on the Swain one - he really didn't have much of a chance. If he kept his foot in, he wouldn't have been able to reach it.

The other one was Hannon - he was close and maybe could have made a better adjustment. 50/50.

Overall, it seems though that the receivers are surprised by the ball.

The 2 QB system hasn't worked. EA and RC are so different that several of the plays tried by EA are not in the RC arsenal. Maybe that's why the receivers aren't adjusting.

It just appeared to me that in an SEC game with a 5 point lead and excellent field position is no time to get some practice time in for a QB.

 

[OWB]

Originally posted by volinbham@Oct 30, 2005 10:16 PM
It just appeared to me that in an SEC game with a 5 point lead and excellent field position is no time to get some practice time in for a QB.

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That's true but the way Rick played, I don't think it would've made that much difference. The problem is, right now we have 2 average QB's and don't have one good one.

USC got their first TD off of something that I have seen coming since RC has been playing. It was only a matter of time before one of those DB's was fast enough to get there before the ball got to the receiver.

Bottom line, we need a QB desperately. One could step up for the ND game, but I'm not getting my hopes up.

 

[volinbham]

RC was 0 for 1 when Ainge was put in.

As in the UF game - RC didn't get much of a chance before the "PROJECT" was underway :biggrin2:

 

[OWB]

But still. Neither of them have shown that they can get the job done. They have had their moments, but those are few and far between. Why not start on the project? At least it gets 11 guys out of the box so you can run the ball some. (Which Foster did)

 

[vol75]

Originally posted by BC VOL@Oct 30, 2005 8:48 AM
Hey All

First time poster here, I just have to vent some fustrations.
It all started in 1999 just after the championship season, Tee Martins 2nd season a big drop off from the previous season. Then came Casey who I thought was a good quarterback, but he took all the heat for the OC lack of coaching for 4 years. Now we have a good quaterback in Ainge but no coaching for him, eventually we are not going to be able to recruit a QB then we want get recievers. We have had the talent to hide the lack of coaching. It has all been make believe since Cutcliff left it has all been hidden by great talent.
Now on defence my only concern here is we let Blake Mitchell find recievers in our secoundary, i think our secoundary coaches are lacking also.
And last but not least our special teams have been missing since Majors was let go, he learned so much from Cafego.
I think Fulmer stays but several assistants have to go.

Thanks for letting me vent.
BC VOL

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Well put brother.