Would someone explain the end of half no TO?

#26
#26
It was actually really smart, if he wouldve came out in the 2nd half with a offensive attack that didnt work - you could blame him(also a 3 and out then GA has the ball in a 2 minute offense drill). The fact of the matter is; I guarantee he knew what they were doing on offense wasn't working (duh) and if they kept playing that way it would be detrimental to the team, obviously we had 3 points, and that half time adjustments were going to be critical to their sucess, so he wanted to get to half time. He gave our players the chance to win. Thats all you can ask for from a coach.
 
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#27
I think we fell to realize that this is a young team. We don't have many options and any score by GA at the end of half would have put us in a deeper hole. These kids are what they are young. Coach Jones is nurturing them at the moment and can you image what the locker room would have been like if Ga had scored 7 or 3 points. He played a low risks situation, so that these kids were in a position to be in the place they were at the end of the game...

In essence he programmed them for success versus the for failure. With kids you have to do that his decision kept us in the game and the momentum calls 3rd and 4th qtrs set the stage for what we saw.

20/20 hindsight is always easy. The most important part of this is CBJ knows this team and it's capability he does not need to stop the game and get on the loudspeaker to the fans and state I am doing this because of this.

Let him coach...he is on the front lines and he is holding his own and gaining ground every game. He has the players involved and functioning as a team. At this time in Vol history he is the right coach, at the right place and at the right time.

He states where he is going and gives players the choice that they can either move lead or follow. They have each other's back.
 
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#28
#28
Let the man coach his team. He is a winner and knows his team better than hot dog consumers in the stands.

It amazes me some of the reactions of our fan base, the man was inches away from pulling off a big win.Inches away ! And if not for the whining of the fan base about a QB change we probably get out of Gainesville with a win. Think how close this team is to sitting at the top of the East standings !
It will happen in due time, relax, enjoy the game atmosphere and get behind the team.

We are 3-3 right were most expected us to be with six more opportunities top get to 6 wins and a bowl birth.
I know the Music City bowl is at the bottom of the food chain.
The man is going to pull in probably a top 5 recruiting class, maybe top two, baby steps man, baby steps. :hi:
 
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#29
#29
DOOLEY WASN’T THE RIGHT COACH FOR THE VOLS. Remember I said THAT first, and now that THAT’S said.
Look back to last year’s 4 OT loss to Mizzou. Game tied with 45 seconds left and two timeouts at the end of regulation. If Dooley had gone for it, Tennessee MAY HAVE made something happen. But no, Dooley’s offense (what? One of the very best scoring offenses EVER at Tennessee) was faltering and if Mizzou somehow got the ball back against that defense disaster was in the wings. So he played safe and took it to overtime. Why, pretty much the same reason most are giving bUTch a pass for not calling time against Georgia at the end of the half. They both wanted to regroup their offenses, and both lost.
bUTch against Georgia last Saturday, Dooley against Mizzou. One gets a pass; the other is castigated, and fired. bUTch gets complimented on good game calling … they needed to regroup. Dooley … well …
But in two very different but incredibly close games, they both lost.
My point is, if it works, many say “Good call” and compliment themselves on their Football IQ. If it doesn’t work, many say “Bad Call” and compliment themselves on their Football IQ. But we are not on the sidelines.
As for myself, I always want to play ball, use those timeouts, attack until the very end, go for the FG or even a Hail Mary. These are the situations when players can reach in, find themselves, and rise to the top. But that’s just me in my armchair.
Go back and read my first sentence.
bUTch IS the coach for the VOLS.
 
#30
#30
Use your Football IQ. GA vs Mo. No comparison.

Against Mo, Coach Jones would have never been in the position that Dooley was to have to make the call. 21 or 28 point lead blown. Spot Butch Jones these points and he wins.
 
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#32
Doolittle = panty waist with a crutch !

Gruden, said no.
Quit trying to find fault and let Jones do his job. He played his cards and put us in a position to win the game.
All I'm asking is to be competitive and have the opportunity to win the game. That's what myself and 99.8 % of the people who watched the game saw.

I know we live in the instant gratification society but this aint Netflix where if you don't like the movie you can just pick another one and start all over.
We have to accept we'll need to live with the bumps and bruises, the up's and downs, warts and all until the guy has an opportunity to field a winner.
Be patient grasshopper our day will come in due time.
 
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Zues1 said:
Doolittle = panty waist with a crutch !

Gruden, said no.
Quit trying to find fault and let Jones do his job. He played his cards and put us in a position to win the game.
All I'm asking is to be competitive and have the opportunity to win the game. That's what myself and 99.8 % of the people who watched the game saw.

I know we live in the instant gratification society but this aint Netflix where if you don't like the movie you can just pick another one and start all over.
We have to accept we'll need to live with the bumps and bruises, the up's and downs, warts and all until the guy has an opportunity to field a winner.
Be patient grasshopper our day will come in due time.
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Evidently u can't read, or won't acknowledge what you did read.

Basically all I said was I prefer going for it. Both times.

Oh, and read my first sentence.

And ... I more of an ugly, crippled old ogre than a grasshopper .... Grasshopper.
 
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Orangedogsrule said:
Evidently u can't read, or won't acknowledge what you did read.

Basically all I said was I prefer going for it. Both times.

Oh, and read my first sentence.

And ... I more of an ugly, crippled old ogre than a grasshopper .... Grasshopper.
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Well then have some patience old man :p

We got it, you wanted a time out, Butch did not.
You don't get to call the game, Butch does.

Relax, enjoy the ride and stop picking apart the mans job after six games.
If he pulls out the win he's your hero, they lost so you look for things " you" would have done to "get the win"
 
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Orangedogsrule said:
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Bs? quo?


I know why now --- your IQ is flawed. Comparing Ga to Mo is where you lose your argument. But in doing so with two different coaches you got two different results. So you question why we praise one coach over the other.

Can't compare or use this as an example too many variables DCs players attitude crowd noise, Mo came back vs us coming back on GA. Momentum changes completely opposite and so on an so on...

You are the one that brought football IQ into it. Use it.

My main theme was that Jones does not blow a 21 pt lead and just sits idly by with the clock going down with the horses we had on the field....common sense tells me that. Jones is the coach that said losing is unacceptable.
 
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Other_Guy said:
I know it's a few days old but I saw a lot of complaints where Butch should've called timeout at the end of the 1st half. Why? The offense has scored 3 points all half and a 3 and out gives Georgia the ball back with a minute plus. Instead they punted it back with 30 seconds.

My dad asked why he wasn't calling TO and I knew right away it wasn't a bad idea.

Again, old debate.
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Shades of Dooley. He should have called the time out and tried for points. We have to try to win the game no matter who our qb is. You can't hide your qb problems and expect to win games, IMO.

We should have won the game anyway and our team gave a hell of an effort.
 
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FBtime said:
I don't agree at all. I'd rather have the ball with one timeout and 1:40 on the clock than two timeouts and 1:06. Timeouts are more important on the defensive side of the ball. Especially in college with the clock stopping on first down.
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You're missing the point. Butch knew we had trouble moving the ball and Georgia got the ball back with 30 seconds instead of 1 minute.
 
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Blackburn said:
Shades of Dooley. He should have called the time out and tried for points. We have to try to win the game no matter who our qb is. You can't hide your qb problems and expect to win games, IMO.

We should have won the game anyway and our team gave a hell of an effort.
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Did you even watch the game??? They got the ball and went to PASSING. It's not like they took a knee. Gosh. Gain some knowledge.
 
#39
#39
Maybe, just maybe the man saw things he could address at halftime. Ya know the old "halftime adjustments" argument?

Oh never mind, I forgot we almost pulled out the win simply because GA had lost all of their O stars, I felt really bad for them.....

I suppose Lane and Young being out had no affect on UT's O.

You can bet when UT took the lead the "fire Mark Richt" choir was warming up.
 
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Sudden Impact said:
Bs? quo?


I know why now --- your IQ is flawed. Comparing Ga to Mo is where you lose your argument. But in doing so with two different coaches you got two different results. So you question why we praise one coach over the other.

Can't compare or use this as an example too many variables DCs players attitude crowd noise, Mo came back vs us coming back on GA. Momentum changes completely opposite and so on an so on...

You are the one that brought football IQ into it. Use it.

My main theme was that Jones does not blow a 21 pt lead and just sits idly by with the clock going down with the horses we had on the field....common sense tells me that. Jones is the coach that said losing is unacceptable.
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Again ... r e a d w h a t I w r o t e ... slow ly ... it mite sink in.

Might not. So I'll reiterrate.

2 coaches. Dooley bad coach. bUTch good coach.

very different games, but inside 2 min both faced letting time run out and regrouping or trying to score.

both could have gone for it. FG or Hail Mary or whatever. neither did. both lost.

I always want to go for it.

And AGAIN! That's just me in my armchair.

bUTch is the coach for the VOLS.

sheesh ...
 
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A-RodWiLks said:
I was livid when he didn't call a timeout. .so much so that I got some dirty looks in my section. Just shows the lack of confidence in our offense but just imagine how big a field goal would have been there. If you were at the game, you know that there were a lot of boos when butch sent the punt team out on fourth and inches. . There was a Georgia time out and he grabbed his sack... went for it and got it. He realized being conservative won't get us wins.
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I love those people in my section. They make me appreciate HDTV.
 
#42
#42
I've seen Cincy fans complain about this before... Coach apparently does not like to take TOs in the first half period.
 
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DaddyChad said:
You call that timeout IF you have a great offense that can get it down the field into scoring position. I think CBJ felt we were better off going in at the half and making adjustments and I can't say he's wrong because the coaching was absolutely flawless in the second half.
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And this is why Dooley took Mizzou to OT last year. Yet so many r praising CBJ for a somewhat similar call.

Yes I know we had great O talent last year but it hadnt put the game away while up 28-21 in the 4th and 2 chances. So he decided to regroup and take to OT.

Man this place gives me a headache sometimes.
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Oskie Volum said:
And this is why Dooley took Mizzou to OT last year. Yet so many r praising CBJ for a somewhat similar call.

Yes I know we had great O talent last year but it hadnt put the game away while up 28-21 in the 4th and 2 chances. So he decided to regroup and take to OT.

Man this place gives me a headache sometimes.
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No, completely different. Dooley had Bray and Co. Butch had NO offense and Murray wanting the ball back. He didn't call time because in case of a 3 and out Murray wouldn't have much time left. Dooley was just stupidm
 
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A-RodWiLks said:
I was livid when he didn't call a timeout. .so much so that I got some dirty looks in my section. Just shows the lack of confidence in our offense but just imagine how big a field goal would have been there. If you were at the game, you know that there were a lot of boos when butch sent the punt team out on fourth and inches. . There was a Georgia time out and he grabbed his sack... went for it and got it. He realized being conservative won't get us wins.
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I totally agree. Butch got out coached when we stopped UGA on third down and let the clock run. A field goal there would have won the game. Butch did not start smelling his onions until the offensive line came over there and said "C'mon Man" in the fourth quarter.
 
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#47
I was furious during the game and many of the people in my section were too. On one hand you want to allow time to score, but on the other hand your offense hasn't do jack diddly so I can understand why he didn't call a time out. You don't want your offense to make big mistake and turn the ball over when you're still in the game down by only 14 points. I can understand why he didn't call a timeout but I still would have liked to have given the guys a chance to get something before the half
 
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