Wow. Miami moved up 12 spots for beating FSU

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Buzzbait said:
My understanding is there are 5 recognized/designated conferences whose champions get the first 5 seeds in the bracket. The lowest ranked of those 5 gets the 5 seed and plays the 12 seed in the opening round, therefore no bye for the 5 seed. Group of 5 is a different scenario and not related to the 5 conference champs. Please correct if I’m off base
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The four highest-ranked conference champs will be seeded 1-4. A G5 school can be seeded in the top four. After the first four, it’s a free for all. The fifth seed doesn’t have to be a conference champion.
 
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Volnanza said:
After watching FSU play BC last night, I would rank BC ahead of Miami. Bc dominated the LOS all night long. Either way they are way over ranked. Of course ND is the MOST over ranked team every year. They play nobody the rest of the way are in the top 5 now.
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Literally one of the only teams to prove anything yet
 
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I suppose that Florida is talented and they could actually start playing really well any time. With their schedule, you might not notice if it's toward the end of the year.

FSU has really bad quarterback play, and that's much harder to fix, but their schedule is better. They might bench DJU and then be competitive or better in the rest of the ACC.

So ponderable.
 
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Volnanza said:
After watching FSU play BC last night, I would rank BC ahead of Miami. Bc dominated the LOS all night long. Either way they are way over ranked. Of course ND is the MOST over ranked team every year. They play nobody the rest of the way are in the top 5 now.
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What a ball of confusion. OK, it was late and maybe I had a few. Yahoo sports has ND at 5 so that's where that came from. BC did beat the snot out of FSU and I don't think it was a fluke. BC and Miami don't play this year (unless they meet in the championship game ) so I'm not sure how Miami got in the thread.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Who did more this week to prove anything? USC? Miami? UGA? That's probably about it.
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if you want to change it to a comparison, sure they have done more than mosts. but you said they had proved "anything". I don't think a win under those conditions really counts as much of anything.
 
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LouderVol said:
if you want to change it to a comparison, sure they have done more than mosts. but you said they had proved "anything". I don't think a win under those conditions really counts as much of anything.
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I'm not saying it's a marquee win, but that is a quality win. TAMU was 7-6 last year, but they were 7-1 at home, only losing by 6 to Bama.
 
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LouderVol said:
if you want to change it to a comparison, sure they have done more than mosts. but you said they had proved "anything". I don't think a win under those conditions really counts as much of anything.
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I know you'll deny, but if Tennessee went in there on Saturday and won, under any conditions, you wouldn't say that it didn't count as much of anything.
 
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05_never_again said:
I know you'll deny, but if Tennessee went in there on Saturday and won, under any conditions, you wouldn't say that it didn't count as much of anything.
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to what? being 1-0? absolutely would matter to me. an SEC win? yeah sure. part of our playoff argument? not at all. reason to think we are going to go 10-2/11-1 and make the playoff? Not beyond being a win. better than our win vs UTC? absolutely. People down play our win AT LSU when they won the SEC West in 2022, really not seeing TAMU in 24 as being even that good.

its a solid win, but if a team is hoisting up TAMU at the end of the season as a quality win it says they haven't done much of anything.

two weeks ago FSU would have been a really good win too. I think TAMU and FSU are going to end up at similar places.
 
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LouderVol said:
to what? being 1-0? absolutely would matter to me. an SEC win? yeah sure. part of our playoff argument? not at all. reason to think we are going to go 10-2/11-1 and make the playoff? Not beyond being a win. better than our win vs UTC? absolutely. People down play our win AT LSU when they won the SEC West in 2022, really not seeing TAMU in 24 as being even that good.

its a solid win, but if a team is hoisting up TAMU at the end of the season as a quality win it says they haven't done much of anything.

two weeks ago FSU would have been a really good win too. I think TAMU and FSU are going to end up at similar places.
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I think you need to move the goalposts on that. We're gonna see some teams get into the 12-team playoff without signature wins.

Didn't realize we were arguing about playoffs, but maybe that was the context when I first replied
 
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n_huffhines said:
I think you need to move the goalposts on that. We're gonna see some teams get into the 12-team playoff without signature wins.

Didn't realize we were arguing about playoffs, but maybe that was the context when I first replied
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the rankings are what the playoffs are based, except for the 5 conference champ exclusion, which doesn't apply to ND.

without that conference championship they need a signature win to make sure they can take an L or two and still be in. Schedule is:
#20 TAMU, grossly over ranked.
Northern Illinois, cupcake.
Purdue, yawn.
Miami........Ohio, cupcake.
#22 Louisville, decent game but they are the same Louisville that went 10-2 losing to 7-6 Kentucky.
Stanford, yawn.
#23 Georgia Tech, looks to be pretty good.
Navy, decent game
Florida State, was probably seen as the hardest game on the schedule, but now?
Virginia, cupcake
Army, decent.
#13 USC, their toughest game by far by ranking, and its doubtful USC will even be Top 10 when they play.

The media hypes up Notre Dame because they draw eyes, they need ND to succeed (make the playoffs) to keep the eyes there. having some over ranked teams on the schedule to say they played/beat 4/5 ranked teams is purely done to help their SoS, to try and justify a higher ranking for ND than they deserve. not because those individual teams actually deserve the ranking, TAMU and Louisville being the prime examples now.
 
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LouderVol said:
the rankings are what the playoffs are based, except for the 5 conference champ exclusion, which doesn't apply to ND.

without that conference championship they need a signature win to make sure they can take an L or two and still be in. Schedule is:
#20 TAMU, grossly over ranked.
Northern Illinois, cupcake.
Purdue, yawn.
Miami........Ohio, cupcake.
#22 Louisville, decent game but they are the same Louisville that went 10-2 losing to 7-6 Kentucky.
Stanford, yawn.
#23 Georgia Tech, looks to be pretty good.
Navy, decent game
Florida State, was probably seen as the hardest game on the schedule, but now?
Virginia, cupcake
Army, decent.
#13 USC, their toughest game by far by ranking, and its doubtful USC will even be Top 10 when they play.

The media hypes up Notre Dame because they draw eyes, they need ND to succeed (make the playoffs) to keep the eyes there. having some over ranked teams on the schedule to say they played/beat 4/5 ranked teams is purely done to help their SoS, to try and justify a higher ranking for ND than they deserve. not because those individual teams actually deserve the ranking, TAMU and Louisville being the prime examples now.
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There are 10-12 games left, man. If TAMU and all these teams are crap by the end of the season, we'll all know it and it will factor into the calculus.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I'm not sure who has it worse, us Gator fans or FSU fans.

On the one hand we were embarrassed by Miami, at home, and looked like we've gone backwards in every aspect of the game. The pressure on Napier is immense and if the rest of the season goes as poorly as it appears likely to go, he may be out of a job soon and the team will lack any consistency heading into recruiting, transfers, and the like, and it could easily be 2-3 years before we even drift in the right direction, much less actually improve markedly.

On the other hand, expectations this year were low at UF and obviously FSU has turned out to be an enormous disappointment. They were ranked 10th and have lost their first two, including at home, as a two touchdown favorite. And their offense looked like absolute garbage in the process.

Not sure which is worse.
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If I had to pick, at this point I would take UF over FSU. Open to change after this weekend but the sample size on UF is too small. I know FSU is bad and their LOS play is absolute garbage.
 
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Miami played Florida
Florida State played Boston College


Put those two together and you get Miami defeating FSU. Makes sense.😏
 
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