WTF happened to all of that oil??

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Looking for the oil? NOAA says it's mostly gone - Yahoo! News

"Poof... and it's gone."

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The gulf of Mexico has 4.43 billion gallons of water for each gallon of escaped oil from the Horizon spill.

An estimated 21 million gallons of crude oil seep naturally into the Gulf each year -- and has done so for eons.
 
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It's all of those dispersants...they've converted the oil into this toxin that will kill all life in the Gulf for decades. The Gulf will become a lifeless void...or something like that.
 
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I stumbled across this thread while looking for the original one. Some of you guys are playing your political angle so hard, it defies all logic. Things don't "disappear," and the gulf's natural ability to handle oil seepage doesn't mean dick when the same amount of natural seepage is still going on, on top of millions of gallons of additional oil-- which isn't operating in a natural manner and instead of being at the top of the water column, it is dispersed throughout and collecting on the bottom. There is no way to know what sort of long-term effects there will be from this, or how long it will take for this benthic oil to be broken down since it is in a completely different part of the sea and chemically altered by dispersants.

Oil From the BP Spill Found at Bottom of Gulf - ABC News
 
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if we had a poltical agenda wouldn't we argue that the oil was going to ruin the gulf since this all happened under obama's watch?
 
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droski said:
if we had a poltical agenda wouldn't we argue that the oil was going to ruin the gulf since this all happened under obama's watch?
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Well, the problem is that, in order to criticize Obama for this you have to ab initio criticize Halliburton and that ain't gonna happen in GOP-land.

I think there is genuine disagreement out there as to what has happened to it. Is it all just sitting somewhere, is it beneath the sand, did it "disperse" and if so into what? etc.

But I agree that for decades scientists will debate what happened to it and what effect it has had.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Well, the problem is that, in order to criticize Obama for this you have to ab initio criticize Halliburton and that ain't gonna happen in GOP-land.

I think there is genuine disagreement out there as to what has happened to it. Is it all just sitting somewhere, is it beneath the sand, did it "disperse" and if so into what? etc.

But I agree that for decades scientists will debate what happened to it and what effect it has had.
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Apparently a fair amount of it is blowing around the bottom of the sea and up the gulf stream like gelatinous tumbleweeds.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Well, the problem is that, in order to criticize Obama for this you have to ab initio criticize Halliburton and that ain't gonna happen in GOP-land.

I think there is genuine disagreement out there as to what has happened to it. Is it all just sitting somewhere, is it beneath the sand, did it "disperse" and if so into what? etc.

But I agree that for decades scientists will debate what happened to it and what effect it has had.
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haliburton had NOTHING to do with the oil spill.
 
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droski said:
haliburton had NOTHING to do with the oil spill.
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You were there?

Well, at any rate, we will never know thanks to DeMint and the Republicans blocking subpoena power to the committee investigating it.

Gee, wonder why they did that.
 
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They weren't running the drilling process. i don't have to have been there for christ sake. hell their stock is up since the oil spill. if you knew anything about the company and what it does you wouldn't be making such stupid statements.
 
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Would it have been worse if it dispersed naturally through the gulf and along the east coast or sitting on the bottom like it is apparently doing? The short term effect might have been worse but what if an earthquake in the sea floor churns this mess up again, would the effect then be much worse? I simply don't know enough about oil or this particular situation to make a call.
 
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In my earlier comment, I was alluding to the obvious reasons why a conservative wouldn't come out strong against BP and this spill: generally, conservatives are allied with industry and business over environmental concerns, and see most environmental issues as overblown. I wasn't making any sort of claims of allegiance to BP, but rather to industry in general.
 
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KB5252 said:
Would it have been worse if it dispersed naturally through the gulf and along the east coast or sitting on the bottom like it is apparently doing? The short term effect might have been worse but what if an earthquake in the sea floor churns this mess up again, would the effect then be much worse? I simply don't know enough about oil or this particular situation to make a call.
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No one does, because dispersants have never been used on this scale, on a spill of this scale. It's hard to say what is the "worst" case scenario from here. It is possible the joevols and spindizzy's of the world are correct and that this oil will be no trouble where it is, and be broken down over the next few years. Or the gsvols of the world may be right, and it will all be kicked off through the gulf stream and dispersed widely, diluting it to inconsequential amounts and eventually breaking down.

I suspect to some degree those things have happened/will happen. But right now, today, there are several inches of chemically altered oil blanketing the gulf bottom, killing macroscopic benthic life. Only time will tell what impact that will have on the fisheries of the gulf, and for how long.

Nature always recovers, but not necessarily on a time scale that is much comfort for humans who live in the affected area.
 
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IPorange said:
No one does, because dispersants have never been used on this scale, on a spill of this scale. It's hard to say what is the "worst" case scenario from here. It is possible the joevols and spindizzy's of the world are correct and that this oil will be no trouble where it is, and be broken down over the next few years. Or the gsvols of the world may be right, and it will all be kicked off through the gulf stream and dispersed widely, diluting it to inconsequential amounts and eventually breaking down.

I suspect to some degree those things have happened/will happen. But right now, today, there are several inches of chemically altered oil blanketing the gulf bottom, killing macroscopic benthic life. Only time will tell what impact that will have on the fisheries of the gulf, and for how long.

Nature always recovers, but not necessarily on a time scale that is much comfort for humans who live in the affected area.
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Hummm.......wonder who designed that to happen :)
 
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lawgator1 said:
You were there?

Well, at any rate, we will never know thanks to DeMint and the Republicans blocking subpoena power to the committee investigating it.

Gee, wonder why they did that.
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Who was suppressing information?

Sen. Bill Nelson blasts Obama Administration for suppressing information on the oil spill

Count Democratic U.S. Sen. Bill Nelson among the critics blasting the Obama Administration over a new report that says the White House suppressed information about the possible size of the Deepwater Horizon disaster and let politics run the show.

The staff report by the National Commission on the BP Deepwater Horizon Oil Spill and Offshore Drilling Commission says that when the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration wanted to release some of the worst-case scenarios for the amount of oil spilling, it was rebuffed by the White House Office of Management and Budget.
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Well, there you go. If Bill Nelson said it, it must be true because he's a Democrat.
 
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