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bleedingTNorange said:
If they beat Xavier you gonna change your tune going forward? Such as the 16-14 prediction I believe it was.
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Yes, if we can beat Xavier at home, with the students on holiday break, I will change my tune going forward.


This is a good, fair test for them. It's not like Xavier is a top-20 team or anything. Just a matter of whether we can find enough offense to score 60-70 points against a well coached defense.
 
#28
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Jax_Vol said:
Yes, if we can beat Xavier at home, with the students on holiday break, I will change my tune going forward.


This is a good, fair test for them. It's not like Xavier is a top-20 team or anything. Just a matter of whether we can find enough offense to score 60-70 points against a well coached defense.
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You described Wichita State as well, very well coached defensive team...and we handled them.

I get it though, wanna see it brought consistently. I think these next 2 games are big for where this season is headed.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
You described Wichita State as well, very well coached defensive team...and we handled them.

I get it though, wanna see it brought consistently. I think these next 2 games are big for where this season is headed.
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Yes, I was impressed that they handled Witcha State. But they had serious foul trouble in the second half.

You are right...I want to see them be consistent for 2-3 games.


I hope they can beat them both.

I do like their free throw shooting.
 
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Special Ed said:
Obviously, those numbers quantify the current relative standings of the two teams in regard to RPI and SOS; a point of reference for anyone who cares. Couldn’t be any more explicit than that.
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My bad. I thought those were in the original post and could not for the life of me figure out why you had just reposted them. I gotcha now. :good!:
 
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Volman10 said:
Is Skylar's defense that much better than Edwards? If Skylar is going to continue to struggle doing the one thing he is supposed to do for the team, then I would like to see Edwards get more of the minutes.
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This again? If all Skylar could do is shot 3's then he would have been benched last year. And yes, at the 2 guard, Skylar is a better defender than Edwards. At least CCM seems to think so.
 
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zansdad said:
This again? If all Skylar could do is shot 3's then he would have been benched last year. And yes, at the 2 guard, Skylar is a better defender than Edwards. At least CCM seems to think so.
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Skylar is UT's three point marksman no? Everyone here knows you have to play D to get playing time with CCM. Skylar's D has not been an issue at all. If Skylar continues to struggle, I would like to see more of a Trae, JRich, Edwards combo getting minutes.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
I've been wondering this too.

If his percentages remain in the low 30s I expect his minutes to drop.

If dmontre picks up the defensive awareness I think his minutes go up, he's our best perimeter shooter so far at 42% on the year.
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The problem right now is who to give those minutes to? I think the Moore experiment is on hold for now. Chievous is apparently struggling as well. Add in 3 guys that are injured and that leaves basically 8 guys that Martin seems to trust. There are 120 minutes in the back court to divide between what looks like 4 guys (Mcbee, Mcrae, Golden, and Richardson). Plus Martin seems to be leaning heavily on a 4 guard lineup, adding even more minutes to that total. If Maymon doesn't come back and Reese turns out to not be any more successful than Chievous or Edwards, I expect McBee's minutes to go up, not down. Same goes for McRae, Richardson, and Golden. I bet there are a lot of games that the last 5 minutes of the game Golden, Richardson, McRae, and McBee are all on the floor.

The margin of error for this team seems to be very small. In situations like that, coaches go with guys they can trust. CCM has shows his trust with playing time. Right now that trusts is in about 7 guys, with Edwards earning some extra minutes.
 
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If Mcbee continues to struggle I'd like to see this come conference...

Golden 30/ McRae 10
Mcbee 20/McRae 20
Josh 30/ Edwards 10
Hall 25/ Edwards 15
Stokes 30/ Yemi 10

The better dmontre plays the more minutes he gets, and I think at the expense of Mcbee. I think McRae are Richardson are entirely too valuable on offense to get to less than 30 minutes a game. Obviously trae will be around 30, so that only leaves 30 more minutes in the backcourt.
 
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Volman10 said:
Skylar is UT's three point marksman no? Everyone here knows you have to play D to get playing time with CCM. Skylar's D has not been an issue at all. If Skylar continues to struggle, I would like to see more of a Trae, JRich, Edwards combo getting minutes.
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You're statement was that 3pt shooting was the one thing Skylar is on the floor for. This is not true. Skylar and Richardson start over McRae for a reason. They are both better defenders at their position. Plus, McBee actually seems to be able to throw the ball in the post with some accuracy, something others on the roster seem to struggle with.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
If Mcbee continues to struggle I'd like to see this come conference...

Golden 30/ McRae 10
Mcbee 20/McRae 20
Josh 30/ Edwards 10
Hall 25/ Edwards 15
Stokes 30/ Yemi 10
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I just don't see any scenario where Edwards get more minutes than McBee. Based on 1 season and 10 games of watching CCM, it is apparent that he is going to play the guys he trusts through thick and thin. He stayed with Cam last year far longer than many in VolNation would have liked and it payed off. Cam played pretty well down the stretch. If McBee doesn't just bottom out from 3 and can still defend I think he keeps his minutes. JMO
 
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zansdad said:
You're statement was that 3pt shooting was the one thing Skylar is on the floor for. This is not true. Skylar and Richardson start over McRae for a reason. They are both better defenders at their position. Plus, McBee actually seems to be able to throw the ball in the post with some accuracy, something others on the roster seem to struggle with.
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Valid points. Obviously I was incorrect in my initial post only talking about Skylar's O game. His defense has been really good. Just not a fan of playing 4 on 5 on O when he is hurt/not making shots.
 
#43
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zansdad said:
Skylar and Richardson start over McRae for a reason.
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I think this has more to do with McRae being a good 6th man and spark off the bench than anything. Josh gets the most minuets of the 3, and Jordan & Skylar are almost identical in minutes.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
I think this has more to do with McRae being a good 6th man and spark off the bench than anything. Josh gets the most minuets of the 3, and Jordan & Skylar are almost identical in minutes.
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It might have to do with Martin's tendency to not change his line-ups, unless forced, more than anything else. Why mess with McRae's mojo if it is working right now. I do agree that McRae is a spark off the bench.

And actually all 3 are pretty close in minutes 28.5,27.5, and 27.1 mpg.
 
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zansdad said:
It might have to do with Martin's tendency to not change his line-ups, unless forced, more than anything else. Why mess with McRae's mojo if it is working right now. I do agree that McRae is a spark off the bench.

And actually all 3 are pretty close in minutes 28.5,27.5, and 27.1 mpg.
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All 3 probably end up at around 30 by the end of the season (unless Edwards comes on strong).

Not to do the next year thing, but that'll be big for next year having Richardson, Goden, McRae and Stokes all returning having played 30mpg the previous year.
 
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zansdad said:
You're statement was that 3pt shooting was the one thing Skylar is on the floor for. This is not true. Skylar and Richardson start over McRae for a reason. They are both better defenders at their position. Plus, McBee actually seems to be able to throw the ball in the post with some accuracy, something others on the roster seem to struggle with.
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Not sure which McBee you're talking about.
Is he doing these things in secret?
Stats show McRae leads in all areas mentioned.
McRae leads in rebounds, assists ,steals and blocks and by a wide margin.
I guess we all see what we want to see at times.
 
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calban said:
Not sure which McBee you're talking about.
Is he doing these things in secret?
Stats show McRae leads in all areas mentioned.
McRae leads in rebounds, assists ,steals and blocks and by a wide margin.
I guess we all see what we want to see at times.
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No he doesn't do these things in secret. More than one commentator has talked about McBee's off-ball defense.

Is this more of the glass half full thing, a push for McRae over McBee, or just some of the standard VN straight up McBee hating that goes on.
 
#48
#48
Hey guys I see Reese may be cleared to play. I had forgotten about him. Any help on the way to take up for Maymon out???
 
#49
#49
zansdad said:
No he doesn't do these things in secret. More than one commentator has talked about McBee's off-ball defense.

Is this more of the glass half full thing, a push for McRae over McBee, or just some of the standard VN straight up McBee hating that goes on.
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Confused by the stats?
Back your claims with figures, not prejudice.
Here they are in case you're interested:
McBee min 27.5 Ass: 9 Rbds:13 Blks: 0 Stls: 2
McRae min: 27.1 Ass: 17 Rbds: 31 Blks: 5 Stls: 6

Who's feeding the post if either of them are?
Who's blocking shots?
Who's stealing the ball?
Who has more ball deflections because of his length?
Who's the better defender?
 
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