Year 1 successes

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You simply cannot inherit a team lacking in SEC quality talent, little to no depth, inexperience at most of your skill positions, and a roster full of guys who have played in a culture of expecting to lose, and turn it around in one year. I'm simply amazed at the lack of perspective, historical context, and overall lack of knowledge of how college football works that this board has displayed the last 18 hours. It's truly stunning.


And before someone throws Malzahn out there, he inherited much more talent and a roster full of guys who knew how to run his system and knew how to win.....they're only 2 years removed from a NC.
 
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You forgot the obligatory "Nick Saban lost to ULM his first year!" that is also included in the countless threads/posts covering the same topic!
 
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Expecting to improve as the season moves on, isn't expecting too much. We regressed in several areas of our team, and that's a huge problem.
 
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We are literally rebuilding from the bottom up, if CBJ and his staff can turn this into an 8 win team in 3 years it will be an awesome job. I think they will do it.
 
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The regression is what is concerning. Very little player development so far. Outside of Lane (and maybe North) im not expecting anything special from anyone next year.
 
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dooley2 said:
Team got worse as players went down and schedule got harder. I never in a million years would have seen that coming.
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So, expecting other players to step up their game and contribute is unreasonable, huh? That's the mentality we have been stuck with for years, and it's killed this football team.
 
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All I know is that I expect CBJ to coach the Vols to 6 wins, minimum, next season. Nothing less. A 7th win would be great. But 5 or less will be very disappointing.
 
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ejvols4 said:
The regression is what is concerning. Very little player development so far. Outside of Lane (and maybe North) im not expecting anything special from anyone next year.
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May as well throw in discipline, fundamentals, execution, and overall game planning as regressing as well.
 
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OP is spot-on!

There have been some 1st year turnarounds, but they have almost always come at programs where the previous coach brought in loads of talent, but failed to use it effectively. The three most obvious cases in the past decade:

1. Urban Meyer at Florida (took over for Ron Zook),
2. Houston Nutt at Ole Miss (took over for Ed Orgeron), and
3. Gus Malzahn at Auburn (took over for Gene Chizik)

All three of those programs recruited spectacularly well in the years before the turnaround. We're not anywhere close to those situations. We're in the opposite boat --- we have very little talent and depth and have basically been turned into a bottom-tier SEC team talent-wise over the past five years.

We have to correct the talent gap to become competitive again. Whether Butch will ultimately be successful is an open question, but we do know that he's addressing the talent gap issue very well. Ultimately, we should start seeing tangible results by Year 2 or Year 3. If at the end of Y3, we're still going 5-7 or 6-6, that's probably a bad sign.

But it's completely unrealistic to have expected a massive turnaround in Year 1 given the dysfunctional environment Butch inherited.
 
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