Yes or No?

Could the Vols have beaten any team today?


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#2
#2
We played great, but we did get some help from A&M today. It seemed like every ball bounced our way. I'm still trying to decide whether the defense was vastly improved or if Reggie McNeil just plain sucked today.
 
#3
#3
while i agree that Texas A&M didnt play well and the breaks went our way, the fundamental tackling was great and much improved, we couldve beat Auburn but I think Oklahoma or USC would still have taken the Vols. Its so great to have 2 1000 yrd rushers...they ran the ball very well today.
 
#5
#5
I think that most of the fumbles were forced. I count the punt fumble too. A lot of players have had a hard time catching his punts. He sealed that Miami game last year when Taylor fumbled it. I thought that our defense looked great today. They played with a lot of passion. Not to mention that they shut A&M's running game down. I liked how we defended the option. Much praise to Rick Clausen, he made good choices and played tough. Our offense was well balanced as well. I don't know about beating any team, but we have beat most! Good game Vols!
 
#7
#7
Im undecided

VOL got a lot of gifts today. Gifts that only 7-4 teams give them. a 11-1 team wouldnt be so generous.

BUT

Vols looked very efficient on offense. The Defense didnt let aTm make any big plays. aTm had over 300 yards of offense. But, they were mostly on the short dump routes and draw plays. They never really threatened UT until the 2nd half. BUT, the UT offense had already gotten us a 28-0 lead.

So, after reading all of that, Im even more undecided.
 
#8
#8
Originally posted by volbrian@Jan 1, 2005 6:06 PM
Im undecided

VOL got a lot of gifts today. Gifts that only 7-4 teams give them. a 11-1 team wouldnt be so generous.




Yeah, but A&M had only given up 8 or 9 turnovers this whole year. They ranked 4th I think in the NCAA for fewest turnovers. With that in mind, I have to think that our players had something to do with it.
 
#9
#9
No. I think Oklahoma's and USC's rosters are so chock full of studs, and their coaching good enough, they can beat any team in the country.

If any of you are watching the Rose Bowl right now, realize that Oklahoma kept this Texas team from scoring a single point. Doing that is mighty impressive, as Texas' running game is looking really solid right now.

I still hold the Cal win as reference to how good USC is; The Cal team that played Texas Tech is definitley NOT the Cal team that has been around all year. USC also had a good win over Virginia Tech, made Notre Dame look like a D-IAA school and played solid against underrated Oregon State (who I think might end up ranked after the bowl games are over -- their computer average is 22nd or 23rd).

So to answer the question... No. And if Utah wins big tonight, I'd say they could beat us up as well. Their offensive schemes rival NFL teams' in complexity. Our guys would have a very tough time keeping up.
 
#10
#10
I don't think we'd match up well against Oklahoma or USC either, and we don't fair too good against auburn. Other than that, I think we could've beaten anybody else in the country today.
 
#11
#11
1st fumble was a bad pitch to our RB who did not look the ball in. Nothing to do with the your defense b/c if he catches that ball he turns up and gets yards.

2nd fumble, plainly was not a fumble. Reggie was down on his butt before that ball came out.

3rd fumble was a muffed punt by a guy that shouldn't have even been near that ball with all that traffic. However, a guy that has not muffed a punt all year, so this again was not your teams doing.

Interception, well that ball was tipped up by OUR receiver and not secured, your player made a good play on the ball after that though.

Anyway my point is this, we gave you those turnovers and I understand that, BUT you guys capitalized on that, which is what made the difference. Those were gifts, that you converted to your credit, BUT CLEARLY GIFTS. Just thought I would keep the record straight on what was GIVEN and what was CAUSED.

Either way the game is over and we looked bad today and lost. Good luck to you guys down the way.

Gig'em
 
#12
#12
You think UT doesnt have some studs on their team? Better check past the "A's" (as in Ainge) and see the other players and potential UT has. USC, in the center of the media capital of the world (LA) so of course, a USC team with no defense is gonna fool a lot of people who see their games as social events. OU, damn fine team with a great coach in Stoops. I dont have any reply for OU except I hope they rip the Trojans a new one.

Why dont you to get your mind off the polls and out of the PAC-10 and take note of why your buddy came all the way to Knoxville to play.

A well motivated and well prepared UT team can compete with any team in the country and on any given day, can beat any team in the country.

 
#13
#13
Just for the record, I think you guys would've beaten 98% of the teams in the country the way you played today. Besides the turnovers we gave you, you guys preformed flawlessly. However we are not the best team in the country by no means so maybe another team may mess that perfection up a little. But damn you guys were on today.

Gig'em
 
#14
#14
Originally posted by milohimself@Jan 1, 2005 8:07 PM
And if Utah wins big tonight, I'd say they could beat us up as well.

Keep this up Milo and I'm going to call for a referendum outlawing you from using "We" and "Us". ;)

Also, I think Urban will have to modify his offense a little bit once he gets to Florida. If he tries to run the option and all that misdirection out of those spread sets, he's going to get Chris Leak killed. There's a reason that the option went out of style in the SEC . . . speed kills.
 
#15
#15
Originally posted by GibbyAG03@Jan 1, 2005 10:09 PM
Just for the record, I think you guys would've beaten 98% of the teams in the country the way you played today. Besides the turnovers we gave you, you guys preformed flawlessly. However we are not the best team in the country by no means so maybe another team may mess that perfection up a little. But damn you guys were on today.

Gig'em

ok there is no such thing as a turnover given. A&M had only 9 turn overs all year.

the pitch: Reggie si running backwards to avoid a sack. forced!
Reggie fumble: tape only showed the back of the play ?

the interception QB under pressure forced

regardless of the turn overs Tennessee out played, out husseled and wanted this win more than the Aggies.
 
#16
#16
Utah beating Pitt is nothing special. Now with VaTech and Miami out of the Big East, it is weakest conference right now as far as I am concerned. This is just another "easy" game for Utah in a strength of schedule that is ranked 117 out of 117 teams.
 
#17
#17
The option is mean't to have the QB take on the defensive end and force him to commit. Reggie did that and then pitched the ball. That is how the option is run and it was a bad pitch, your guy never had his hand on Reggie so it was more of a mess up than forced.

From where I was sitting he did not fumble the ball. That ball came out as he was sitting down. Only someone who was there could disagree with me on that one.

The pick, was right in the receivers hands and he popped it up. It hit Terrence in his hands in the middle of his body, Reggie had nothing to do with the fact that our receiver popped the ball up.

I give credit due where it is due and I did by saying that you guys converted the turnovers into points. But to say there is not a difference btw a GIFT turnover and a FORCED turnover is ludacris.

Either way we lost and I know that but I hate it when people try to make their team into some kinds of gods about how they played and forget that sometimes it was the other team that HELPED them out (and I don't mean that towards ya'll all the time either, I mean any team). Not all the time but sometimes it does happen.

Gig'em
 
#18
#18
Originally posted by GibbyAG03@Jan 1, 2005 11:20 PM
I hate it when people try to make their team into some kinds of gods about how they played and forget that sometimes it was the other team that HELPED them out (and I don't mean that towards ya'll all the time either, I mean any team).

I know what you mean. Some fans can't help being manic depressive - when they lose they think the world is coming to an end and when they win, they think a Nat'l title is right around the corner.

I think it's safe to say that we are not 31 points better than A&M . . . . but we were today.
 
#19
#19
Yes I agree GAVol, ya'll had our number today. Apparently it was a very big number!!!

Gig'em
 
#20
#20
Originally posted by GibbyAG03@Jan 1, 2005 10:20 PM


Either way we lost and I know that but I hate it when people try to make their team into some kinds of gods about how they played and forget that sometimes it was the other team that HELPED them out (and I don't mean that towards ya'll all the time either, I mean any team). Not all the time but sometimes it does happen.

Gig'em

No offense, Gibby, cause I really do think you and the other A&M fans on here are classy, but what I hate is when a fan of a losing team cannot simply say "You were the better team" WITHOUT tacking on "but you did have help". I watched the game from start to finish and the Vols were better. Period. Your quarterback was unimpressive, your receivers showed up a little late and your coach didn't know what hit him. I appreciate A&M's fine traditions and all but I also know an outcoached, outhustled, outplayed team when I see one and that's what I saw today. As a Vol fan I COULD say that the only way A&M even scored 7 points was because we gave you half a football field in penalties, but I won't. I'll just say good luck next season and as long as you aren't playing my Vols.....


Gig 'Em
 
#21
#21
You beat the crap out of us today. No ifs and ands or buts, we got creamed today by the better team. I have never not said that. I was just defending my team b/c people had already begun to discredit my team and I got the impression that some of you may feel like it was a dissapointment to play us in the Cotton Bowl. Sorry about that I guess.

But no, you guys killed us today and that is the bottom line.

Gig'em
 
#22
#22
You have to understand something, Gibby hun. This is our first bowl victory in THREE years. We were the underdogs and most "experts" predicted an A&M blowout. So our "crowing" is as much from relief ( at least on my part) as it is from pride. You and the other A&M fans on this board have earned your school another supporter as long as you aren't playing my Vols.


Gig 'Em. ;)
 
#23
#23
Originally posted by GibbyAG03@Jan 1, 2005 11:20 PM




Either way we lost and I know that but I hate it when people try to make their team into some kinds of gods about how they played and forget that sometimes it was the other team that HELPED them out (and I don't mean that towards ya'll all the time either, I mean any team). Not all the time but sometimes it does happen.

Gig'em

Honestly, this is how I felt about the Auburn game the first time we played them. Then, we met them in the SECCG and didn't turn the ball over once and we still lost. :eek:lol: :blink: :furious3:
 
#24
#24
Originally posted by dan4vols@Jan 1, 2005 4:20 PM
while i agree that Texas A&M didnt play well and the breaks went our way, the fundamental tackling was great and much improved, we couldve beat Auburn but I think Oklahoma or USC would still have taken the Vols. Its so great to have 2 1000 yrd rushers...they ran the ball very well today.

man i think your way off sayin that.. i think if you can beat auburn you can beat anyone... even though it wont turn out that way .... we played great today but i doubt a top 3 team turns the ball over 3 time let alone 5.
 
#25
#25
Originally posted by GAVol+Jan 1, 2005 8:01 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (GAVol @ Jan 1, 2005 8:01 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-milohimself@Jan 1, 2005 8:07 PM
And if Utah wins big tonight, I&#39;d say they could beat us up as well.

Keep this up Milo and I&#39;m going to call for a referendum outlawing you from using "We" and "Us". ;) [/quote]
I think that we might be able to hang with any team in the country, but winning is another thing... I&#39;m just trying to be realistic. Watching Utah tonight proved nothing, they performed about as good as people would expect them to... So we still won&#39;t know whether the 2004 Utes team is worth the hype or not.

But as far as Southern California and Oklahoma go, I really believe that both of those teams are so incredibly good, two of the best teams in easily 50 years of college football, that saying we would BEAT either of them is a stretch. We could definitley hang with them, and the margin against neither would be lopsided when we&#39;re on our A-game, but a win... I think just too tall of an order.
 

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