You knew it wouldn't be long after the tragedy for this to be brought up

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dreVol said:
it sure didn't take long for abc news and Brian Ross to try to link this tragedy to the tea party.

here's a crazy idea msm, why don't we wait for facts to emerge before engaging in blood libel?
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What did he say to try to link it to the Tea Party? Certainly no signs this was political. Guy was in med school, form what I read, and about to withdraw, too. Sounds like he was just super disturbed, disaffected.
 
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lawgator1 said:
What did he say to try to link it to the Tea Party? Certainly no signs this was political. Guy was in med school, form what I read, and about to withdraw, too. Sounds like he was just super disturbed, disaffected.
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The talk radio circuit says that ABC News with Stephanopoulos went to breaking news and that one of his crack reporters said that there was a Jim Holmes who was a registered tea party member in Aurora Colo.

They had to back track on the incrimination when they learned that Jim Holmes the tea party member was 50+ years old. No bias here...
 
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burntorangeVOLffle said:
You seriously think returning fire In a dark theatre filled with smoke and a frantic crowd would have resulted in less injury/fatality? The real world isnt like Die Hard.
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No, the real world was a crazed gunman and a bunch of unarmed people wholly unable to defend themselves or others.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
how is it playbook?

You've lost your mind if you don't believe individuals have given up their guns. You've doubled down if you don't believe the DOJ and liberal elites are bent on finding a way to eliminate groups of weapons without asking the public about it.

Then answer the question: Who?

Leave anecdotal silliness for people like LG.

And, for the record, I haven't listened to talk radio in about 20 years.
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Maybe you should. Pop quiz: Who signed the law allowing guns in National Parks? (hint: you won't like the answer)

BTW, saying "libruls gonna take yer guns" is on page 1 of the playbook. But of course you know this.
 
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The stupied liberals are already screamin gun control. They will never take mine.
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Ahhhh another issue Romney has evolved or flip flopped on depending on which side of the isle you are on.

As usual Romney is on the side that fits his latest campaign.


Mitt Romney's stance on gun control - Mackenzie Weinger - POLITICO.com

“I don’t line up with the NRA.” — 1994, to reporters at a campaign stop. During his 1994 Senate campaign, Romney came out in support of the Brady Bill and a ban on certain types of assault weapons.


Signed a permanent assault-weapons ban as governor of the Bay State. “Deadly assault weapons have no place in Massachusetts,” Romney said at the July 1, 2004, signing ceremony. “These guns are not made for recreation or self-defense. They are instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people.”

“We do have tough gun laws in Massachusetts — I support them. I won’t chip away at them. I believe they help protect us, and provide for our safety.” — Sept. 24, 2002, at a debate during the Massachusetts gubernatorial race.


As governor, declared May 7, 2005, as “The Right to Bear Arms Day” in Massachusetts in order to “honor law-abiding citizens and their right to ‘use firearms in defense of their families, persons, and property for all lawful purposes, including common defense.’”

Signed up for a lifetime NRA membership in August 2006


“I support the Second Amendment as one of the most basic and fundamental rights of every American.” — Sept. 24, 2007, in a video address at an NRA conference.


“When the Brady Bill was first passed, there really wasn’t the kind of Internet that we have to make an instant check. Today, we can make an instant check. And so there’s no reason for a new Brady Bill that would have a waiting period.… I don’t think for a minute that checking someone’s background to make sure they’re not a criminal or they’re not insane is in any way a violation of the Second Amendment.” — December 2007, at a town hall meeting in Londonderry, N.H.


When it comes to protecting the Second Amendment, I do not support any new gun laws including any new ban on semi-automatic firearms.” — Dec. 30, 2007, in a statement


“With respect to gun control laws, I believe we need to distinguish between law abiding gun owners and criminals who use guns. Those who use a firearm during the commission of a crime must be punished severely. The key is to provide law enforcement with the resources they need and punish criminals, not burden lawful gun owners.” — 2008 issue statement to The Washington Post on gun control.


According to his 2012 campaign website, Romney “will enforce the laws already on the books and punish, to the fullest extent of the law, criminals who misuse firearms to commit crimes. But he does not support adding more laws and regulations that do nothing more than burden law-abiding citizens while being ignored by criminals. Mitt will also provide law enforcement with the proper and effective resources they need to deter, apprehend, and punish criminals.”
 
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CSVol said:
Maybe you should. Pop quiz: Who signed the law allowing guns in National Parks?
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Less dramatic a "gotcha" than you'd like. The law to which you refer was packed into the Miscellaneous Provision section of the Credit Cardholders Bill of Rights Act of 2009. In fact this had begun (indeed, merely restored) what had already been implemented under Bush, was blocked by an injunction. (Get this, for possible "environmental impacts) Getting it included in something the Democrats badly wanted (the CCBRA) kept it from becoming it's own fight again.

And just so there's no confusion "allowing guns in National Parks" is a bit too sweeping a statement. One must be legally licensed to carry a weapon in the state in question. Joe Schmoe packing heat in the park without a permit is going to face weapons charges just like before.
 
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I regret that tragedies like this ever have to be made into political issues, as they often are. This one is no exception. Some people on the left and the right will point to it and try to make some sort of social statements about it. Quite frankly, I don't know that anyone can speak for what went on there other than the shooter himself and his victims/witnesses.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
Seriously? TVA? Gov't appropriated the land for virtually nothing, overspent and is massively inefficient in execution, but lack of alternatives and effective monopoly power made it your poster child. Awesome.
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The TVA is probably the most successful New Deal program, which isn't saying much. But it's not so bad that central planning supporters can't shine up that piece of **** and sell it to the public as progress.
 
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Mormons get married and have kids at age 22, so they can't afford babysitters (and the inconsiderate ones go to movies, anyway). I went to the 10 pm showing of Where the Wild Things Are (specifically to avoid kids), and I'm not kidding toddlers were playing tag and running laps around the theater.
 
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hndog609 said:
Less dramatic a "gotcha" than you'd like. The law to which you refer was packed into the Miscellaneous Provision section of the Credit Cardholders Bill of Rights Act of 2009. In fact this had begun (indeed, merely restored) what had already been implemented under Bush, was blocked by an injunction. (Get this, for possible "environmental impacts) Getting it included in something the Democrats badly wanted (the CCBRA) kept it from becoming it's own fight again.

And just so there's no confusion "allowing guns in National Parks" is a bit too sweeping a statement. One must be legally licensed to carry a weapon in the state in question. Joe Schmoe packing heat in the park without a permit is going to face weapons charges just like before.
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Not trying for "gotcha". Merely pointing out the false rhetoric that Barry and the "liberal elites" are doing everything they can to eliminate gun ownership. That tired old mantra has been played so much that I've come to believe the only real threats to gun ownership are dreamed up in NRA board meetings to increase dues. As for how the bill was structured, seems like every other piece of legislation. Enough Dems voted for it and the President signed it. They could have let it drag throught the same courts that blocked it.

And so there's no confusion, were guns allowed in a National Park before this law?
 
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n_huffhines said:
Mormons get married and have kids at age 22, so they can't afford babysitters (and the inconsiderate ones go to movies, anyway). I went to the 10 pm showing of Where the Wild Things Are (specifically to avoid kids), and I'm not kidding toddlers were playing tag and running laps around the theater.
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something is funny here but I just can't put my finger on it
 
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burntorangeVOLffle said:
You seriously think returning fire In a dark theatre filled with smoke and a frantic crowd would have resulted in less injury/fatality? The real world isnt like Die Hard.
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If I chamber one and he doesn't respond appropriately, he'll have a hole in him.

There would have been anther injury at that point and fewer thereafter.
 
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CSVol said:
Maybe you should. Pop quiz: Who signed the law allowing guns in National Parks? (hint: you won't like the answer)

BTW, saying "libruls gonna take yer guns" is on page 1 of the playbook. But of course you know this.
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First question immaterial and senseless.

I'll assure you that I can name more than 1 person who has given up their weapon of choice. One is as skilled of a rifleman as exists on earth, anywhere.

Dumbasses touting this idiocy about guns being the problem don't want names. They're stupid enough to buy that ruling liberal elites don't want to take them away.
 
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