You wanna complain fine, but quit acting as if the seasons over

#51
#51
bleedingTNorange said:
I'm as mad as anyone, that may be the worst loss of the Zo era simply because of how we choked it away.

However, that loss doesn't doom us to the CBI all of a sudden. I will guarantee we are still in the next updated brackets, and our RPI will still be decent. We obviously just made it a bit harder on ourselves, but to act as if there's no way this team can make the tourney now is simply overreacting.
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We can make the nit with a few more quality wins.
 
#52
#52
wtorange said:
What you say is possible but in the last 3 years what have you seen that will make us win that critical game or two to get us over the hump? If we had a track record to base our hopes on it would be easier to do.
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We've already won 2 critical games

We are already in a better spot right now than the last 2 years by a wide margin.
 
#53
#53
Chris4Vols22 said:
So that 4-game win streak with blowouts to 2 power conference teams means nothing? There's no difference between that team and the one that lost to Xavier, UTEP, and NCSU? I just don't see how anyone could expect the team to tank given the progress that's been made, and especially since we tend to play better in the 2nd half of the season. I just don't see the evidence to make me think this team has a better chance of sinking rather than succeeding. If we were 8-7 or worse, then I doubt anyone would disagree. But we're not, and we've clearly seen a significant improvement with this year's squad minus tonight's choke job. Not saying we're gonna win out, and not dismissing the possibility that we will suck, but based on what we've seen this year compared to the past 2 years, this team is on another level.
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We're underachieving tremendously. If you don't see that, I don't know what else to tell you.
 
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#55
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bleedingTNorange said:
I'm as mad as anyone, that may be the worst loss of the Zo era simply because of how we choked it away.

However, that loss doesn't doom us to the CBI all of a sudden. I will guarantee we are still in the next updated brackets, and our RPI will still be decent. We obviously just made it a bit harder on ourselves, but to act as if there's no way this team can make the tourney now is simply overreacting.
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So you are determined to go down with ship? What has he possibly done to inspire such faith?
 
#56
#56
Jones really came to play for Texas A%M in the second half and we just did not make the free throws at the end to secure the win. A defensive dogfight and we still have a long way to go this season.
 
#58
#58
Not to kick a man when down but theres been numerous times this season where I think on a given day we could get by florida, bama, uga, kentucky, arky, missouri, ole miss. I don't see the sec getting more than 4 teams in the tourney. Florida and Kentucky have already punched their tickets.
 
#60
#60
bleedingTNorange said:
I'm as mad as anyone, that may be the worst loss of the Zo era simply because of how we choked it away.

However, that loss doesn't doom us to the CBI all of a sudden. I will guarantee we are still in the next updated brackets, and our RPI will still be decent. We obviously just made it a bit harder on ourselves, but to act as if there's no way this team can make the tourney now is simply overreacting.
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Tennessee has had some good wins lately however this is a bad loss at home from a bad team. I am not trying to start something with you but you have made similar posts each of the last two years from this point forward (and even earlier in the season). I understand if you want to be hopeful that the Vols will make the NCAA Tourney and all is not lost. The Vols can still make the AA Tourney but CCM's history is not good in that department. I guess you will continue to posts these things and your bracket busters and "last four in" and "last four out" posts. But come on man, this is a BAD loss and does in fact hurt the Vols chances of making the only tourney that matters.

Wouldn't you like it if the Vols were playing for higher seeding rather than the 'bubble"?
 
#61
#61
Too deflated to complain.
Just going to cross my fingers and toes rest of the way.
 
#62
#62
TennesseeFan07 said:
UTEP and NC State's RPI's will probably continue to dwindle throughout the season, along with this A&M loss. Three bad losses should be okay to advance off of the bubble, but there are still plenty of opportunities to pick up a few more. There are still four more "toss up" games at home, alone, much less road games. It's definitely achievable right now, but if history teaches us anything, Cuonzo needs to have this team solidly in by the time the SEC Tournament rolls around.
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How many bad losses has Martin suffered in conference the last couple years.

We are 10-5 with a tourney RPI, the last 2 years 8-7 with horrible RPIs, that's the difference.
 
#63
#63
BTO, do you at least agree that if we don't make the dance CCM should be let go?
 
#65
#65
Berry4Heisman14 said:
We're underachieving tremendously. If you don't see that, I don't know what else to tell you.
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I definitely implied that when I discussed the differences between the team that lost to Xavier, UTEP, and NCSU with the team that drubbed UVA and LSU in the midst of a 4-game win streak. If you don't see that we've improved, not only from the beginning of the season, but from the past 2 seasons as well, and if you assume the team will continue to lose despite history telling us we will probably heat up, then I don't know what to tell you.
 
#67
#67
bnhunt said:
I disagree. I think this kills all the momentum we generated and that was a a really really really bad team we just lost to. I think we go 10-8 in conference and go to NIT and are probably looking for a new coach at end of season. This team is just too inconsistent to make a sustained run.
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Who? The 11-4 Texas A&M team?
 
#68
#68
knoxville's finest said:
Not to kick a man when down but theres been numerous times this season where I think on a given day we could get by florida, bama, uga, kentucky, arky, missouri, ole miss. I don't see the sec getting more than 4 teams in the tourney. Florida and Kentucky have already punched their tickets.
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Might only be three.
 
#69
#69
patrick said:
Tennessee has had some good wins lately however this is a bad loss at home from a bad team. I am not trying to start something with you but you have made similar posts each of the last two years from this point forward (and even earlier in the season). I understand if you want to be hopeful that the Vols will make the NCAA Tourney and all is not lost. The Vols can still make the AA Tourney but CCM's history is not good in that department. I guess you will continue to posts these things and your bracket busters and "last four in" and "last four out" posts. But come on man, this is a BAD loss and does in fact hurt the Vols chances of making the only tourney that matters.

Wouldn't you like it if the Vols were playing for higher seeding rather than the 'bubble"?
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Yes and I've said as much
 
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#70
I hope you all are right. But I have seen nothing from this team and coaching staff that makes me think they will get us into the tourny. I hope i'm wrong, I just don't see it. Too inconsistent.
 
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#73
#73
bleedingTNorange said:
How many bad losses has Martin suffered in conference the last couple years.

We are 10-5 with a tourney RPI, the last 2 years 8-7 with horrible RPIs, that's the difference.
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I understand the point you're trying to make, but this team has too much talent and experience to even be in this position. I understand tough losses to Xavier and Wichita on the road, but the other three losses are inexcusable, especially considering the talent this team has. I'm probably even a bigger Cuonzo fan than you, but I'm just discouraged with these bad losses. There's plenty of time to turn it around, but it's just discouraging to see this team in this position.
 
#74
#74
Some extreme rationalizations going on in this thread.

Zo never used one TO to stop A&M's run in the second half, even with all 4 TO's available. He used his first of the second half with 36.9 seconds left. Not one time did he stop play to make defensive or offensive adjustments - just waited for the TV time outs. He kept hoping the players would do it on their own because HE DOESN"T KNOW HOW. He talked in the ear of the officials when he should have had a technical called on him in the first half. He let the officials take his guys out of their games - just watched it happen and did nothing. You call TO and you get in the face of the officials and you get yourself T'd up to fire up your team and send them a message. Then you climb their azzes at the bench and make adjustments. You stop running guys in and out like $2 hookers and go with the established line-up regardless of the foul situation until you have it under control again. That is what a quality coach would do. But after 3 seasons we know that is not what Zo does.
 
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#75
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Berry4Heisman14 said:
I hope you all are right. But I have seen nothing from this team and coaching staff that makes me think they will get us into the tourny. I hope i'm wrong, I just don't see it. Too inconsistent.
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Consistent enough to be 10-5, what's double that?

Are you suggesting this team is gonna do the opposite of what Martin's teams have done, and lose more as the season goes on? History tells us his teams play better late, no?
 
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