YouTube TV Price Increase

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WillisWG said:
www.techhive.com

Disney, Warner & Fox sports streaming blows up the TV bundle

For the first time, programmers are splitting off sports and broadcast channels from the rest of their cable-channel lineups.
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ESPN as a standalone streaming service is coming in 2025

Even as it eyes a joint sports bundle with Fox and Warners, Disney is forging ahead with a standalone streaming version of ESPN.
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Will be interesting to see if the fed steps in as this would be very anti-competitive if priced correctly.
 
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Dadof2Vols said:
Will be interesting to see if the fed steps in as this would be very anti-competitive if priced correctly.
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I see the DF&W (Venu) bundle priced @ $42.99 but Fubo's lawsuit has that on hold. ESPN is still talking a stand alone next year, probably a bundle deal inside ESPN+. $35< and I'm in.

variety.com

Disney, Fox and Warner Bros. Discovery’s Sports Streamer Venu to Launch at $42.99 per Month

Venu, the streaming sports venture backed by Disney, Fox and Warner Bros. Discovery, plans to launch with a monthly price tag of $42.99
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All of these streaming services will continue to increase in pricing. I luckily got grandfathered into DirecTVStream from the inception, so I have the largest package with over 105 channels and it’s now $109/month, but I save $25/month over a comparable package now. I have thought about switching several times, but my package has all of the channels that I want and If I switch, I’ll either lose those channels or pay more. It’s a lot of money, but I stay at home a lot and I consider it my entertainment money for the month.
 
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SDV said:
All of these streaming services will continue to increase in pricing. I luckily got grandfathered into DirecTVStream from the inception, so I have the largest package with over 105 channels and it’s now $109/month, but I save $25/month over a comparable package now. I have thought about switching several times, but my package has all of the channels that I want and If I switch, I’ll either lose those channels or pay more. It’s a lot of money, but I stay at home a lot and I consider it my entertainment money for the month.
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You're a lucky dog, they're sticking to my brother-in-law.
 
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Anyone have Fubo? Do you pay a Regional Sports Network (RSN) fee?
 
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Dadof2Vols said:
The problem is not the cable companies or the streaming companies.

The cable companies were saddled with old equipment and set top boxes that were getting obsoleted every 3 years so they wanted to go to steaming to lower costs.

All of the streaming companies are saddled with the high cost of the equipment to do live linear streaming which is very expensive compared to Video on Demand think Netflix and Disney+.

So ignore the equipment costs and what is the next biggest driver of costs and what led to cord cutting? The carriage feeds charged by Disney/ESPN, NBC/peacock, and CBS/Paramount. The same drivers of the costs for cable companies is driving the cost of steaming with charges every month. These companies have crappy content for the most part and since they can’t drive demand for their extortion prices they just keep going up on cost instead of increasing demand.
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The big four network shows are so bad now. Have any of you watched an NCIS lately. It's horrendous. My 9 year old could write a better script. Too bad I need them for sports.
 
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jasonvol18 said:
It's really not bad. With the pay channels I have on YouTubeTV, I pay less than $110 a month. I was paying over $200 with Charter and get more channels on YTV. ONLY Thing is, from April --June, I have to pay another $95 a month to add FUBO, so I can watch the Braves. FUBO charges an extra 15 a month on top of their Monthly fees. But, gotta watch the Braves .
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Same wrt Charter. Got rid of “cable”, went straight internet and then use the Charter app. Young guy that worked with me at the local office e got me down from about $230/mo to less than $100. Added in a few apps and still well below what I was paying. TV has gotten like insurance…gotta go shopping for a better deal every couple of years or so.
 
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ATCVolinmn said:
How much is FUBO with the sports package?? 😊😊
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I chose Hulu over YouTube only because comes with Disney plus. I sampled all 3 YouTube, Hulu & FUBO before settling with HULU. FUBO i liked but so much of their sports are global soccer which does little for me. So if you like soccer I totally say you will love it. I wanted to try SLING but no locals gave them a big NOPE.
 
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DeepSpringsVol said:
I chose Hulu over YouTube only because comes with Disney plus. I sampled all 3 YouTube, Hulu & FUBO before settling with HULU. FUBO i liked but so much of their sports are global soccer which does little for me. So if you like soccer I totally say you will love it. I wanted to try SLING but no locals gave them a big NOPE.
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I looked at sling today. I would've had to add the entertainment package, the sports package, and upgraded dvr to match what I have with YouTube TV and it was $5 more than what YouTube TV will be in January. And sling said they were increasing prices end of December. So YouTube TV is still cheapest option for me.
 
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ATCVolinmn said:
I looked at sling today. I would've had to add the entertainment package, the sports package, and upgraded dvr to match what I have with YouTube TV and it was $5 more than what YouTube TV will be in January. And sling said they were increasing prices end of December. So YouTube TV is still cheapest option for me.
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Sounds like price collusion by all of them but that can’t be……
 
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YTTV pros: watch multigames and can stream on the road. Watched football all the way from the Hiwassee to the Stones coming home on TGD.

Cons: Cost

We have a Plex server and OTA antenna and can stream local channels via Plex or can watch "wired" up to the antenna (we use the old CATV coax connections with some modifications)
 
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WillisWG said:
$10 increase in January. Streaming is the new cable in so many ways.
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I signed up for the original YoutubeTV beta test, back in 2017 or whenever, when they were testing it in the NY metro and LA metro markets. And at that time, the price was 35 dollars a month and included about 30-35 channels (including ESPN and the SEC Network). Sweet merciful crap was I happy. 35 a month? And I got all the sports channels I'd wanted? Hot damn.

But more than that, Google had promised in their advertising that the price would never change. The VP in charge of YoutubeTV even bragged about how if you got in at the start, the price would remain the same. 35 a month in perpetuity? Hot friggity damn.

Then about a year into the program, they started blabbing about how they were raising the price to 45 because they added a bunch of garbage-ass networks no one would ever want to watch but it was suuuuuch a great deal. And, very regrettably of course, they would force everyone into the new pricing.

Then they came out again the next year and raised the price to 60, all while gaslighting people about how they should be excited by Google adding the "Discovery networks" - the channels that make all those dumbass fake reality shows and truly, truly sh**y programming - but oh wasn't that wonderful? Crappy junk channels, one after the other.

Now it's up to, what, 90? They never had any intention of making cable TV better, they just wanted to take over the market and insert themselves as the new middlemen.

Thankfully, I knew what was up and cancelled back when they raised it to 45. I was so damn livid. They PROMISED to never raise our prices, and then had the F'ing temerity to tell us to our faces about how we were getting a much better deal every time they raised the price. Assholes. I've never forgiven them for lying - or for continually coming back later and BSing everyone about how wonderful their newer pricing was. At least be honest and say "we want to make tons of money and to do that we have to rip you off, same as every other cable provider." At least own your BS.

Anyway, my point is, of course they're raising the prices again. They're jackasses who have no interest in empowering the consumers who purchase access to television.
 
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Voltopia said:
I signed up for the original YoutubeTV beta test, back in 2017 or whenever, when they were testing it in the NY metro and LA metro markets. And at that time, the price was 35 dollars a month and included about 35 channels (including ESPN and the SEC Network). Sweet merciful crap was I happy. 35 a month? And I got all the sports channels I'd wanted? Hot damn.

But more than that, Google had promised in their advertising that the price would never change. The VP in charge of YoutubeTV even bragged about how if you got in at the start, the price would always be what you started with. 35 a month in perpetuity? Hot friggity damn.

Then about a year into the program, they started blabbing about how they were raising the price to 45 because they added a bunch of garbage-ass networks no one would ever want to watch but it was suuuuuch a great deal. And, very regrettably of course, they would force everyone into the new pricing.

Then they came out again the next year and raised the price to 60, all while gaslighting people should be excited about how they were adding the "Discovery networks" - the channels that make all those dumbass fake reality shows and truly, truly sh**y programming - but oh wasn't that wonderful? Crappy junk channels, one after the other.

Now it's up to, what, 90? They never had any intention of making cable TV better, they just wanted to take over the market and insert themselves as the new middlemen.

Thankfully, I knew what was up and cancelled back when they raised it to 45. I was so damn livid. They had PROMISED to never raise our prices, and then had the F'ing temerity to tell us to our faces about how we were getting a much better deal every time they raised the price. Assholes. I've never forgiven them for lying - or for continually coming back later and BSing everyone about how wonderful their newer pricing was. At least be honest and say "we want to make tons of money and to do that we have to rip you off, same as every other cable provider." At least own your BS.

Anyway, my point is, of course they're raising the prices again. They're jackasses who have no interest in empowering the consumers who purchase access to television.
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I made the switch to YTTV when it was $50, it was as you said ideal until they added channels that I don't watch.
 
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WillisWG said:
I made the switch to YTTV when it was $50, it was as you said ideal until they added channels that I don't watch.
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And they will keep right on adding crappy channels and using it to justify more price increases. They will lie every step of the way. "Don't be evil" went out the window ages ago for that bunch.

The only question for people is how long they intend to put up with it.
 
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Voltopia said:
And they will keep right on adding crappy channels and using it to justify more price increases. They will lie every step of the way. "Don't be evil" went out the window ages ago for that bunch.

The only question for people is how long they intend to put up with it.
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Because the carriage rates are so high for the good channels, I don't see an alternative on the horizon.

Honestly, too, those folks who watch Lifetime or Hallmark or whatever it is and almost no sports via YTTV or Hulu help subsidize my ESPN + the occasional movie or something preference. It's easy for me to say: it's ESPN + crap when my wife might say it's _____ + that ESPN my husband won't do without.

I wish true reasonably priced "a la carte" was not a complete money loser for streaming services so we could cherry pick only what we want but apparently it's not profitable or someone could stir up the market by starting such a service.
 
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Voltopia said:
I signed up for the original YoutubeTV beta test, back in 2017 or whenever, when they were testing it in the NY metro and LA metro markets. And at that time, the price was 35 dollars a month and included about 30-35 channels (including ESPN and the SEC Network). Sweet merciful crap was I happy. 35 a month? And I got all the sports channels I'd wanted? Hot damn.

But more than that, Google had promised in their advertising that the price would never change. The VP in charge of YoutubeTV even bragged about how if you got in at the start, the price would remain the same. 35 a month in perpetuity? Hot friggity damn.

Then about a year into the program, they started blabbing about how they were raising the price to 45 because they added a bunch of garbage-ass networks no one would ever want to watch but it was suuuuuch a great deal. And, very regrettably of course, they would force everyone into the new pricing.

Then they came out again the next year and raised the price to 60, all while gaslighting people about how they should be excited by Google adding the "Discovery networks" - the channels that make all those dumbass fake reality shows and truly, truly sh**y programming - but oh wasn't that wonderful? Crappy junk channels, one after the other.

Now it's up to, what, 90? They never had any intention of making cable TV better, they just wanted to take over the market and insert themselves as the new middlemen.

Thankfully, I knew what was up and cancelled back when they raised it to 45. I was so damn livid. They PROMISED to never raise our prices, and then had the F'ing temerity to tell us to our faces about how we were getting a much better deal every time they raised the price. Assholes. I've never forgiven them for lying - or for continually coming back later and BSing everyone about how wonderful their newer pricing was. At least be honest and say "we want to make tons of money and to do that we have to rip you off, same as every other cable provider." At least own your BS.

Anyway, my point is, of course they're raising the prices again. They're jackasses who have no interest in empowering the consumers who purchase access to television.
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Streaming was never about making cable better or cheaper.

It was about the need for the cable companies to get rid of the expensive cable Boxes and distribution networks and go to Standard Ethernet equipment.

For the content makers their desire was to cut out the cable distribution providers so the content makers could put more money in their pockets.

I had an employee of the mouse ear company tell me 5 years ago that the cable companies would be out of business or almost irrelevant in 5 years if things went to plan. I don’t see it there yet but the writing is on the wall for cable
Companies. Why do they want this? Higher margin for mouse ears to have no middle man and you see that in their move to take their sports properties straight to their own app cutting out the packagers.
 
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Clad in Big Orange said:
Not happy at all about this. This is why I left cable. Didn’t YouTube increase prices a year ago? I guess it’s now going to be an annual price hike. Time to start looking around for an alternative.
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Wait till the lying legacy media takes over the podcast space. I'm sure we'll all be ecstatic about that..... 🙄
 
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jasonvol18 said:
It's really not bad. With the pay channels I have on YouTubeTV, I pay less than $110 a month. I was paying over $200 with Charter and get more channels on YTV. ONLY Thing is, from April --June, I have to pay another $95 a month to add FUBO, so I can watch the Braves. FUBO charges an extra 15 a month on top of their Monthly fees. But, gotta watch the Braves .
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You can save $95/ month and stop watching that trash team. Just watch the Mets, and quality of life will improve. 🤭
 
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jasonvol18 said:
It's really not bad. With the pay channels I have on YouTubeTV, I pay less than $110 a month. I was paying over $200 with Charter and get more channels on YTV. ONLY Thing is, from April --June, I have to pay another $95 a month to add FUBO, so I can watch the Braves. FUBO charges an extra 15 a month on top of their Monthly fees. But, gotta watch the Braves .
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Watch Andy Griffith re-runs. Barney is the equivalent of Snitker.
 
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