Zach Arnett - interesting hire

[butchna]

They're all temporary. The buyout just determines how long it is temporary if you are not successful in the first couple years of the contract.

Two years isn’t “temporary”. Maybe we’re doing semantics, but this isn’t an interim hire. What was proposed after Kiffin jetted…Kippy Brown one year deal? THAT’s a temporary fix. It’s what Baylor did with Jim Grobe. Now if he’s a disaster and has a low buyout? That makes it less of a risk. But that’s not the spirit of this hire.

 

[butchna]

TBH, MSU probably made the right decision for them right now. The coaching pool is not filled out yet with a coach I would desire to hire in their current situation they were dealt. Just my .02.

MSU is a proven non-destination job. If you’re young and ascending AND win in Starkville? Then you’re bound for bigger and better. If Arnett succeeds there, a low to minimal buyout would be a double-edged sword.

 

[GVF]

Two years isn’t “temporary”. Maybe we’re doing semantics, but this isn’t an interim hire. What was proposed after Kiffin jetted…Kippy Brown one year deal? THAT’s a temporary fix. It’s what Baylor did with Jim Grobe. Now if he’s a disaster and has a low buyout? That makes it less of a risk. But that’s not the spirit of this hire.

I know it's not interim. Maybe mine is more of a sracstic response in that no one ever really fulfills a contract these days. coaches get fired in year two of a 4 or 5 year deal for not doing enough immediately. Coaches leave for greener pastures before they fulfill a contract. Words and contracts are meaningless these days. That's why they are all temporary. There a a few exceptions, but they are few.

 

[GVF]

MSU is a proven non-destination job. If you’re young and ascending AND win in Starkville? Then you’re bound for bigger and better. If Arnett succeeds there, a low to minimal buyout would be a double-edged sword.

Except for Mullen. He apparently peaked at MSU. When he got bigger and better, he tanked. But, you never know how it will go. With 5* players or successful up and coming coaches.

 

[butchna]

Except for Mullen. He apparently peaked at MSU. When he got bigger and better, he tanked. But, you never know how it will go. With 5* players or successful up and coming coaches.

First few seasons at Florida, he was a perennial candidate to jump into the NFL. So I don’t see his peak being at MSU. He OVERACHIEVED there and held serve at a high level at Florida…until it imploded.

 

[GVF]

First few seasons at Florida, he was a perennial candidate to jump into the NFL. So I don’t see his peak being at MSU. He OVERACHIEVED there and held serve at a high level at Florida…until it imploded.

Considering his love of recruiting, he was prob a better fit in the pros, but his implosion carved that out.

 

[butchna]

Considering his love of recruiting, he was prob a better fit in the pros, but his implosion carved that out.

All of the Mehlen Club cited that as his kryptonite…and were eventually right.

 

[DiderotsGhost]

If it was temporary, why do four years? I'm going off the press release.

They always do 4+ years for recruiting purposes. That's why the buyout is more telling. If it's low (e.g. $2 million), that would suggest temporary. If it's high (e.g. $10 million), not so much. Of course, I suspect it's in the middle.

 

[OrangeInKy]

I understand why they promoted from within after Leach's death, but feels like Arnett is not ready. I'm a bit surprised they didn't try to bring Dan Mullen back.

I get why they wanted to keep things stable/steady given the horrible circumstances, I’m not sure why it was a one year interim and then see how it goes. I know people say they need the multi year deals to show stability for recruits, I just don’t think that matters much anymore now that players can always transfer and play right away. It’s not how it used to be when they were facing sitting out a year to transfer, so I don’t know if recruits care as much about the school trying to show the coach will be there long term.

 

[Volfan1000]

It’s the ONLY decision they could make. Signing day is approaching and sensitive nature of timing. When was it going to be ok to start reaching out to candidates?

Safe hire for MSU as it keeps the coaching staff intact with signing day approaching quickly.

 

[Carp]

Except for Mullen. He apparently peaked at MSU. When he got bigger and better, he tanked. But, you never know how it will go. With 5* players or successful up and coming coaches.

Mullen tanked in 2021. He was very good at UF before that. But it's probably fair to say he peaked at MSU since he hasn't produced a better team than that 2014 MSU team.

 

[the_todd]

I thought i read somewhere that they didn’t/can’t do a real coaching search because they don’t have an actual AD in place?

 

[Otis1105]

MSU doesn’t have an AD. This is the only move. It’s Low money, buy out is probably favorable. When the new AD Is hired he will probably get to hire his own guy and not cost the school a ton.