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#27
#27
I imagine it's UTs turn in the mojo line to get a few calls tilted in the Orange flavor.
We had it in our favor last year, especially during the INT that hooker threw at the end of the Bama game. I personally didnt see a PI that was egregious enough to have a flag thrown. You win some you lose some. Just feels like we have been losing more thant winning with the refs this year. Example was the ref on saturday that watched Nico about get his head ripped off by a facemask.
 
#29
#29
I think you already know the answer.

Here's another thought. I'm beginning to think that the officials absolutely hate our up-tempo offense because it puts a ton of stress on them trying to accommodate our pace. The solution?...start slinging the laundry, accidentally kick a football (yeah right), etc. in order to slow the game down to something they can manage. Not stating it as a fact, just a random thought.
Might be because some of them are a biscuit or two away from blowing the crotch out of their pants and they can’t stand having to run any distance and gather their breath before making a call 🤷‍♂️
 
#31
#31
Going after the refs as "corrupt" is among the weakest of excuses for our own inefficient, foot shooting offense.

They miss calls. It happens. Always has and always will. If you truly believe it's WWE, why watch unless you just want to be entertained?

If that's what you believe, you're wasting your time watching college football and expecting it not to be rigged.

Spoiler alert: it's not rigged. The refs don't hate us. ESPN doesn't hate us. It's a game played by imperfect players and reffed by imperfect refs.
It it was just “imperfection”, one would assume the number of incorrect calls IN out favour would approximate those going against us. However, I cannot seem to recall a single egregious call in any of our preceding four games that has went against our opponents. “Mistakes” that tend almost exclusively in one direction rapidly begin to resemble something else entirely.
 
#33
#33
That talks about it being difficult for them, not corrupt. DIFFICULT. And how they try to cope with it.

The implication that officials "go after" TN or any team is weak. Very weak.
Ever see the jerk? Maybe the officials aren’t just shooting at cans 😉
Eventually you figure out they are shooting at YOU
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#34
#34
It it was just “imperfection”, one would assume the number of incorrect calls IN out favour would approximate those going against us. However, I cannot seem to recall a single egregious call in any of our preceding four games that has went against our opponents. “Mistakes” that tend almost exclusively in one direction rapidly begin to resemble something else entirely.
So why watch and care if you believe it's rigged?

I've watched WWE but I don't believe for a second it's more than something like a Disney film that's only there to rope me into the franchise.

Is that how you see SEC football?
 
#35
#35
Logically, we were much, much faster last year and none of what you're suggesting happened.

So you're suggesting THIS year, when we're much slower, they feel the need to slow us down. That makes no sense.
Maybe it was discussed during the off-season and they are implementing their strategies now. Who knows. All I know is that kick of the football didn’t look so accidental to me
 
#36
#36
Maybe it was discussed during the off-season and they are implementing their strategies now. Who knows. All I know is that kick of the football didn’t look so accidental to me
Again, who cares? If that's how you feel, good for you but why care if we win or lose if you really think it's rigged? It's rigged so there's no reason to take it seriously. You know, like wrasslin'.
 
#37
#37
The Lads in Lines have not been friendly at all to our Vols this season. Most of us agree that the reffing has been particularly egregious so far.

Although I am concerned about O-Line, Secondary, etc. - more than anything this Saturday night, I fear that an unfair whistle may tilt this game in the wrong direction.

What do yall think? Are we gonna get a decent whistle against the Gamecocks? Or will SC jr be allowed to hold, grab and run amok like our other opponents?
If UT has done its job and sent video of these bad calls to the SEC over the last 3 weeks then the next crew should be conscious of it. And hopefully... UT will get a different crew.
 
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#38
#38
I know all schools think the refs give them a bad wrap, but it really does seem ESPECIALLY bad for the VOLS, in all sports.
I think each game has a bunch of 50/50 calls & missed calls & no calls. Sometimes you end up on the wrong end of a bunch of no calls or bad 50/50s . I have no interest in Arky but watch close games and they ended up on bad end of this vs LSU I also think we have too mostly by dumb luck this year. In 98 seems like we got all of these calls just sometimes your the bUG sometimes you’re the windshield.
 
#39
#39
Logically, we were much, much faster last year and none of what you're suggesting happened.

So you're suggesting THIS year, when we're much slower, they feel the need to slow us down. That makes no sense.
The officiating has been part of what's slowed UT down this year. Not all. But some. Since this crap has come from multiple crews now then you have to consider that they've "talked". Unless you think they're betting on games or something then you have to look at other reasons they might officiate in a biased way. I think a dislike of UT's tempo is a very good possibility for discussion.... and you know the officials don't want it to spread.
 
#40
#40
I think each game has a bunch of 50/50 calls & missed calls & no calls. Sometimes you end up on the wrong end of a bunch of no calls or bad 50/50s . I have no interest in Arky but watch close games and they ended up on bad end of this vs LSU I also think we have too mostly by dumb luck this year. In 98 seems like we got all of these calls just sometimes your the bUG sometimes you’re the windshield.
If they even out over time then maybe you are right. I honestly can't think of a bad/close call that has gone in UT's favor this year. I can think of 5-10 that were bad calls/no calls that went against the Vols.

If there isn't bias involved then the law of averages says the Vols are in for some favorable bad calls.
 
#41
#41
Again, who cares? If that's how you feel, good for you but why care if we win or lose if you really think it's rigged? It's rigged so there's no reason to take it seriously. You know, like wrasslin'.
Clearly you do, you’ve explained your opinion multiple times and when someone replies to you you just say who cares. I don’t have a strong opinion either way, I just didn’t think your point about the offense moving faster last year vs this year makes much sense. At times we do move as fast as last year. And it seems like when we do it the refs are more involved now
 
#43
#43
Clearly you do, you’ve explained your opinion multiple times and when someone replies to you you just say who cares. I don’t have a strong opinion either way, I just didn’t think your point about the offense moving faster last year vs this year doesn’t make much sense. At times we do move as fast as last year. And it seems like when we do it the refs are more involved now
I care because I don't believe it's rigged and I don't believe the refs are deliberately cheating UT or any other school.

I think it's weak, very weak, to complain about refs when things are not going as well as you'd like.

If these guys think it's rigged, they're watching WWE or the old "Live Wrestling" from the Fairgrounds in Nashville my Mom said "isn't totally rigged, you know" when of course it was.

I would prefer guys to say: I don't believe the SEC is legit sports but is decided in Birmingham.

If that's how you feel, own it.
 
#44
#44
The calls have been extremely one sided. I think the animosity toward Tennessee on the part of the Birmingham office is a lot deeper and longer held than merely "tempo offense." And there is no evidence that repeatedly sending video evidence has had any effect this year or in previous years. But let's notice the obvious:

IF the one sided calls (by omission and commission) have been because "the officials don't like our tempo offense," (which I do not believe) that in itself absolutely amounts to rigging outcomes and would be a gigantic case of corruption among SEC crews (as well as the people in Birmingham who supervise the crews and participate in review calls remotely).

It would NOT be an excuse. It would amount to an absolute case of guilt.
 
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#45
#45
The calls have been extremely one sided. I think the animosity toward Tennessee on the part of the Birmingham office is a lot deeper and longer held than merely "tempo offense." And there is no evidence that repeatedly sending video evidence has had any effect this year or in previous years. But let's notice the obvious:

IF the one sided calls (by omission and commission) have been because "the officials don't like our tempo offense," that absolutely amounts to rigging outcomes and would be a gigantic case of corruption among SEC crews as well as the people in Birmingham who supervise the crews and participate in review calls remotely.

It would NOT be an excuse. It would amount to an absolute case of guilt.
And that's honest. If that's how you think it is, good for you and you know what you're watching is rigged competition.

I disagree, but I respect that view.
 
#46
#46
I think you already know the answer.

Here's another thought. I'm beginning to think that the officials absolutely hate our up-tempo offense because it puts a ton of stress on them trying to accommodate our pace. The solution?...start slinging the laundry, accidentally kick a football (yeah right), etc. in order to slow the game down to something they can manage. Not stating it as a fact, just a random thought.
The more penalties they call on us the more time they have to catch their breath. It’s science really.
 
#47
#47
Maybe it was discussed during the off-season and they are implementing their strategies now. Who knows. All I know is that kick of the football didn’t look so accidental to me
And of course it was in a critical situation. As were the two uncalled DPIs (critical situations) (one a pass in the endzone), the falsely called "crackback" block (critical situation), the no call on the facemask on Milton's 2-point conversion attempt (critical situation). I think most people who noticed the pattern believe that we would have gotten a come-back win without Birmingham's interference.

And it is NOT a valid objection to be too timid to state this because we played so poorly in the first half. That simply means that someone is afraid their friend would mock them, etc.

By the way, and speaking of the first half: did anyone notice the obvious holding (uncalled) that sprung FL's long touchdown run?
 
#48
#48
Let Joe put a mustard seed into the nether region of the head ref to start the game and let the Zebra's know we'll have eyes on them with retaliation to follow.
 
#49
#49
So why watch and care if you believe it's rigged?

I've watched WWE but I don't believe for a second it's more than something like a Disney film that's only there to rope me into the franchise.

Is that how you see SEC football?
How would you explain the discrepancy in calls for vs against? Imperfection doesn’t appear to me to be very defensible.
 
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#50
#50
How would you explain the discrepancy in calls for vs against? Imperfection doesn’t appear to me to be very defensible.
Good for you. Believe as you wish, just own it if you think it's rigged. You're just watching for fun, right, because you know it's rigged.

Otherwise, why are the calls occurring in your mind if not to fix the game results?

It can't be both ways. It's either legit or the refs are trying to fix the games. I choose the first option. And you?
 

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