Zeigler's 3pt shooting

[volsarelife1]

Want to preface this as I'm in no way trying to drag ZZ or be overly critical. As he is our most important player and the glue for the team for everything that he does and brings to the floor.

With that said, Zeigler's shooting is becoming a bit of a concern at this point.

11 games into the season and he's shooting 29.7% on 3s. But over the last 7 games he is 9/43 on 3s for 20.9%... I know we're not looking for or need him to he a 20 ppg scorer, but still would like to either see those 3pt attempts decrease or the % go up.

 

[chuckiepoo]

Want to preface this as I'm in no way trying to drag ZZ or be overly critical.

…hmm

With that said,

Even came with a secondary warning.

I think yer trying too hard.

 

[Col_Cathcart]

He’s always kinda been streaky. Hopefully he gets on a heater during conference play.

 

[Golfprovol]

Want to preface this as I'm in no way trying to drag ZZ or be overly critical. As he is our most important player and the glue for the team for everything that he does and brings to the floor.

With that said, Zeigler's shooting is becoming a bit of a concern at this point.

11 games into the season and he's shooting 29.7% on 3s. But over the last 7 games he is 9/43 on 3s for 20.9%... I know we're not looking for or need him to he a 20 ppg scorer, but still would like to either see those 3pt attempts decrease or the % go up.

If you have to say "want to preface this" or :with that said" or "with all due respect" then you probably should think of a different way to express the thought.

Maybe something like "I wonder what is wrong with ZZ shot? His 3 % is down 9 points and his shots per game are up. I would love to see him make more or shoot a little less until his shot comes back"

 

[Dr H Lecter]

I’m not worried about Ziegler. I hope he keeps doing what he’s always done- give 110% in every game including taking his shot every time he feels like he needs to.

 

[volsarelife1]

He’s always kinda been streaky. Hopefully he gets on a heater during conference play.

Yep. He's always been streaky. Would rather him be cold now and get hot in conference play if he's going to stay streaky

 

[Volfan1000]

ZZ's the best point guard distributor in the SEC.

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

I’ve never wanted to see ZZ taking 3s late in close games. Driving or distributing? Yes. Taking the critical shot? Nope.

ZZ’s 3s seem to happen earlier in games when we get on a run.

 

[thehardknoxlife]

Basketball is a game of runs and steaks. It's fine I assure you. You'll be making a thread next when he gets on fire saying he's the greatest.

 

[VOLfrombama]

I would like to preface this with all due respect. It’s December. There’s 3 months of basketball left. Sit back and enjoy the season. Its way too early to be nitpicking shot selection.

 

[Houstonvol1]

I’ve never wanted to see ZZ taking 3s late in close games. Driving or distributing? Yes. Taking the critical shot? Nope.

ZZ’s 3s seem to happen earlier in games when we get on a run.

Interesting. I feel the opposite. He’s made so many late clock-shot bombs I’ve felt the more important the shot the better he is.

 

[TrapVol]

I’ll admit that I’ve noticed it too, although as other have stated, ZZ is definitely streaky at times. I would still not trade him for any PG in America. Even so, hitting a few more 3’s would be a big boost to the offense.

 

[McGeesPub]

If you have to say "want to preface this" or :with that said" or "with all due respect" then you probably should think of a different way to express the thought.

Maybe something like "I wonder what is wrong with ZZ shot? His 3 % is down 9 points and his shots per game are up. I would love to see him make more or shoot a little less until his shot comes back"

Maybe he could just hire a lawyer to draft his post for him so that it doesn’t touch a nerve for anyone.

Holy crap, it was a reasonable post and I honestly cannot believe this response.

 

[NighthawkVol]

If you have to say "want to preface this" or :with that said" or "with all due respect" then you probably should think of a different way to express the thought.

Maybe something like "I wonder what is wrong with ZZ shot? His 3 % is down 9 points and his shots per game are up. I would love to see him make more or shoot a little less until his shot comes back"

Semantics aside, he’s right.

 

[VOLtaism]

Want to preface this as I'm in no way trying to drag ZZ or be overly critical. As he is our most important player and the glue for the team for everything that he does and brings to the floor.

With that said, Zeigler's shooting is becoming a bit of a concern at this point.

11 games into the season and he's shooting 29.7% on 3s. But over the last 7 games he is 9/43 on 3s for 20.9%... I know we're not looking for or need him to he a 20 ppg scorer, but still would like to either see those 3pt attempts decrease or the % go up.

I noticed most of his shots were defending the 30 sec. clock last night, 0-7 at one point. I think they are trying to get the ball to Chas/Dubar as mush as possible to get them ready for SEC play. Not looking for the shot. Mashack as well. He will be there when needed.

 

[PandamoniumReigns]

I love how people get bent outta shape over wording in a post.

Just read the #$+&#! Post and if you want to discuss the topic at hand, then discuss it. If not, don't.

Dissecting semantics is annoying.

 

[Jax_Vol]

ZZ Top

 

[Anti-shunshinepumper]

Want to preface this as I'm in no way trying to drag ZZ or be overly critical. As he is our most important player and the glue for the team for everything that he does and brings to the floor.

With that said, Zeigler's shooting is becoming a bit of a concern at this point.

11 games into the season and he's shooting 29.7% on 3s. But over the last 7 games he is 9/43 on 3s for 20.9%... I know we're not looking for or need him to he a 20 ppg scorer, but still would like to either see those 3pt attempts decrease or the % go up.

I got some similar responses when I made a post Igor being unimpressive from behind the arc.
I don't take it as you trying to bash ZZ.
I certainly wasn't trying to bash Igor.

I think we all know the expectations this year are final four at minimum, and for a lot of us it's a Natty. The SEC is going to be brutal this year. If we want a #1 seed and an easier path in regards, come SEC play and tourney time we need more from ZZ and Igor from 3.
It's just the fact of the matter. Good news is I believe both can and will get it together soon. I'm certainly not hitting the panic button or anything.

 

[Anti-shunshinepumper]

I’m not worried about Ziegler. I hope he keeps doing what he’s always done- give 110% in every game including taking his shot every time he feels like he needs to.

I really his play. His defense is tenacious and he is a very good with assists.

If I'm being critical and throwing in my two cents, sometimes I feel he settles for just dribbling it around and having to put up a shot at the last seconds of the shot clock.
I'd like to see him drive to the hoop just a little more. If you notice he has more success than not when he does. Usually gets a nice look at a lay up, fouled, or finds an open shooter.

I definitely still want him taking some 3 attempts, just maybe a few less in exchange for more penetration.

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

Interesting. I feel the opposite. He’s made so many late clock-shot bombs I’ve felt the more important the shot the better he is.

Sure. If time is about to expire on the shot clock. But I wouldn’t want to see an end of game play run for him to make a 3 if we’re down by 3.

Yes, I remember some end of shot clock bombs that were converted. But I don’t remember him execute on offense at the end of a game. I think he’s made some game clinching defensive plays though.

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

I think he finishes at the rim better than Chandler did. Turner as well. ZZ has very reliable moves at the rim.

 

[The Dog]

I think he finishes at the rim better than Chandler did. Turner as well. ZZ has very reliable moves at the rim.

No, ZZ does NOT finish at the rim better than Chandler did. Nobody playing point has finished at the rim, since Barnes has been here, better than Chandler, imo

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

No, ZZ does NOT finish at the rim better than Chandler did. Nobody playing point has finished at the rim, since Barnes has been here, better than Chandler, imo

That’s not how I remember it. Chandler took the ball the full length of the court often. He GOT TO THE RIM more. But ZZ has been very successful with the long, sweeping hook shots underneath and throwing the ball high off of the glass. Chandler was successful getting to the rim BEFORE defenses were there. But he missed a bunch when the defense was in position. ZZ makes most of his contested shots at the rim. He might not get to the rim as easily, but when he does it’s going in.

 

[The Dog]

That’s not how I remember it. Chandler took the ball the full length of the court often. He GOT TO THE RIM more. But ZZ has been very successful with the long, sweeping hook shots underneath and throwing the ball high off of the glass. Chandler was successful getting to the rim BEFORE defenses were there. But he missed a bunch when the defense was in position. ZZ makes most of his contested shots at the rim. He might not get to the rim as easily, but when he does it’s going in.

Agree to disagree. Plus, Chandler would dunk on you, hard, especially for 5'11

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

No, ZZ does NOT finish at the rim better than Chandler did. Nobody playing point has finished at the rim, since Barnes has been here, better than Chandler, imo

Jordon Bone was a damn good finisher too. He got to the rim faster and quicker than Chandler