Zimmerman Trial

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Oh, okay, its on the CNN blog. Yeah, its part of the tug of war over who can be in the courtroom and basically warning everyone not to talk to the other side, or its witnesses or supporters.
 
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And it will not even be a crime. I will just say I was going to Target with my shotgun and I had to peel a few caps back. No big deal.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Oh, okay, its on the CNN blog. Yeah, its part of the tug of war over who can be in the courtroom and basically warning everyone not to talk to the other side, or its witnesses or supporters.
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The defense was trying to get Tracy Martin barred from the courtroom, because he called a someone a mothereffer when he saw the I.D. around his neck as they were going through the courtroom door. The Judge stated that the victim's family or its attorney had the right to be there unless they were disruptive. Not sure if that was the final ruling.
 
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State's opening was weak - I mean 30 something minutes - weak opening. It was just a play to emotions with no facts. I understand you want to play to their emotions if you are the State, but they presented nothing of substance. Plus the way the State's opening guy focused in on Zimmerman's gun was just bizarre considering one of the jurors had a carry permit and another's husband has guns.
 
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Vol4LifeLCA said:
State's opening was weak - I mean 30 something minutes - weak opening. It was just a play to emotions with no facts. I understand you want to play to their emotions if you are the State, but they presented nothing of substance. Plus the way the State's opening guy focused in on Zimmerman's gun was just bizarre considering one of the jurors had a carry permit and another's husband has guns.
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The defense wasn't much better. They started with a knock-knock joke. There must be a bunch of bad lawyers down in Fl
 
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VolsNSkinsFan said:
The defense wasn't much better. They started with a knock-knock joke. There must be a bunch of bad lawyers down in Fl
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Ya the knock knock joke probably wasn't the best idea, but I think he was trying to tone everything down after the State's opening. Granted it fell flat, but he recovered. He used exhibits showing Zimmerman's injuries and the layout of the apartment complex. He also got to be the first one to discuss Zimmerman's call to the police and the witness's 911 call with the screaming. He used actual evidence to tell the story he wanted told and I think he did a heck of a lot better than the State.
 
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I haven't seen any of the trial. Just saw a bunch of libs flipping out on twitter about the joke

Thanks for update. I'm not a fan of this Zimmerman dude but I think he should walk
 
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Tracy Martin has accepted no responsibility for his son's behavior, and he has never withdrawn one word of his declarations that Zimmerman murdered his son in cold blood. The man does not appear to be any where close to right in the head.
 
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Vol Main said:
Tracy Martin has accepted no responsibility for his son's behavior, and he has never withdrawn one word of his declarations that Zimmerman murdered his son in cold blood. The man does not appear to be any where close to right in the head.
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A parent lost his kid. I can see why he's acting like this. No parent wants to believe their child did some of things the defense is going to say.
 
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The State is trying to argue that Zimmerman's state of mind was hostile. It might score a few debating points, but the defense did well yesterday playing the dispatch recording moment by moment during examination of the police dispatcher. Zimmerman used curse words a few times, but in a resigned tone of voice, and the dispatcher testified that curse words were not unusual or disturbing to him. The tone of Zimmerman's voice was very tranquil, with no hint of aggression. The recording just does not show a man driven by emotion to commit murder. Of course, we do not know how he sounds on the recordings of his other calls or if the judge will admit them into evidence.
 
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Vol Main said:
The State is trying to argue that Zimmerman's state of mind was hostile. It might score a few debating points, but the defense did well playing the dispatch recording moment by moment during examination of the police dispatcher. The tone of Zimmerman's voice was very tranquil, with no hint of aggression. The recording just does not show a man driven by emotion to commit murder. Of course, we do not know how he sounds on the recordings of his other calls or if the judge will admit them into evidence.
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Thanks volmain. I'm at work so no access to a tv. I appreciate the updates and your opinions on the trial.
 
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Vol Main said:
The State is trying to argue that Zimmerman's state of mind was hostile. It might score a few debating points, but the defense did well playing the dispatch recording moment by moment during examination of the police dispatcher. The tone of Zimmerman's voice was very tranquil, with no hint of aggression. The recording just does not show a man driven by emotion to commit murder. Of course, we do not know how he sounds on the recordings of his other calls or if the judge will admit them into evidence.
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Zimmerman's attorney did very well yesterday on cross. The State did not do nearly as well on direct and that isn't good since these are their witnesses.
 
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tumscalcium said:
You just can't justify charging Zimmerman with second degree murder based on the evidence.
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I thought that was obvious which is why I was confused as to why the prosecution charged him with murder. I hope FL is not one of those BS states where the prosecution can overcharge but the jury can convict on a lesser charge that was not brought forth/tried by the prosecutors.
 
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Obsessed said:
Thanks volmain. I'm at work so no access to a tv. I appreciate the updates and your opinions on the trial.
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YW. Don't know if the jury is present, don't think so; they are playing recordings of previous calls to police dispatch. The prosecution strategy is the opposite of what I expected. I thought that the previous calls would make Zimmerman appear bad, but they don't. The prosecution argued that they show a change in his his state of mind and behavior on the night of the shooting. I think the prosecution is pissing into the wind, because the calls just make Zimmerman appear to be a responsible person trying to assist the police.
 
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PKT_VOL said:
I thought that was obvious which is why I was confused as to why the prosecution charged him with murder. I hope FL is not one of those BS states where the prosecution can overcharge but the jury can convict on a lesser charge that was not brought forth/tried by the prosecutors.
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I believe FL allows for lesser, included offenses.
 
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Where was the mainstream media when the innocent Knoxville couple was murdered by a gang of black guys? Media bias is typical now days.
 
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AirVol said:
Where was the mainstream media when the innocent Knoxville couple was murdered by a gang of black guys? Media bias is typical now days.
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I've brought that story up to my coworker a few times. He didnt believe me til I pressured him to read it. I only know about it through Volnation.
 
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SamRebel35 said:
Of murder? Where are you getting this notion from?
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PKT_VOL said:
Of murder?
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Yes.

Do I believe that George Zimmerman is guilty of second degree murder? Not necessarily.

Do I believe that enough evidence exists to prove Zimmerman's guilt beyond a reasonable doubt? No, certainly not.

Do I believe that the six jurors will find him guilty of second degree murder? Oh, absolutely.
 
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