Another Teacher-Student Sex Scandal

Yeah. I thought your post declaring that you

was one of the dumbest posts I'd seen.

I can't tell whether you're doing a serviceable job of hiding your tracks afterward.

Have you really never heard people say Catholics aren’t Christian?

My wife was raised in a Catholic home. When she was a teen she went to her best friends Baptist church. One of the bigger ones in the area. She was basically told by the youth pastors that her parents, as devout Catholics, were going to hell if she didn’t convert them.

I’ve heard my own Baptist mother say things like “Catholics worship Mary” therefore “they aren’t real Christians”.

Just do a simple google search and there are tons of threads across the web debating Baptists not acknowledging Catholics as Christians.

I didn’t introduce religion into the conversation but I was one of the first to push back. Not sure what your point is about “covering tracks”.
 
I've seen more "Christ-like" behavior from some atheists than I've seen from some Baptist churches....
Too much politics these days.

When I was about 11 years old I had a paper route delivering the Knoxville News Sentinel. It was/(is?) an afternoon paper except on Sunday Morning. The paper Company delivered my papers to me on Hillside drive. One Sunday morning I went to get my papers for delivery, and this guy in his late 20s-30s started talking to me, and he asked me if I wanted go to his apartment and he would take my picture. He was annoying to say the least. NOPE! He was creepy.

So later that day, like most Sundays, I went to church with my mother to --------Baptist Church in Oak Ridge. I couldn't believe it. The creepy guy was there and was introduced to the congregation as being considered for the youth pastor position. Ugh! I found my Sunday School Teacher, and told him my story. He said the guy I saw was his twin brother. But that guy was never seen again at our church. JMO, at least in the 60s most of the people at Baptist churches were decent people. Hopefully it is still that way?
 
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Have you really never heard people say Catholics aren’t Christian?

My wife was raised in a Catholic home. When she was a teen she went to her best friends Baptist church. One of the bigger ones in the area. She was basically told by the youth pastors that her parents, as devout Catholics, were going to hell if she didn’t convert them.

I’ve heard my own Baptist mother say things like “Catholics worship Mary” therefore “they aren’t real Christians”.

Just do a simple google search and there are tons of threads across the web debating Baptists not acknowledging Catholics as Christians.

I didn’t introduce religion into the conversation but I was one of the first to push back. Not sure what your point is about “covering tracks”.
That is bat sh-t crazy af. Can you imagine doing that to someone else's minor children? And to the parents?

Someone should have turned them in to child protective services. That's abuse.
 
I don't deny they're under paid, I don't buy into the poor broke teacher, so I gotta show myself naked/doing sex acts. Like I said, everyone on planet earth knows what teachers get paid, so she can't use "I didn't know I couldn't afford everything I bought" excuse is all I'm saying. Not trying to argue you, and sorry you feel that way about Baptists, we're not all like that. I'm not even judging her, not my job, I'm just saying she knew how much money she'd make as a teacher, took a risk doing something that most people do find immoral, and got caught. It's only natural people are going to share their opinions on it. While I hate she was in the spot financially, and she wouldn't have made as much doing something else, there are other options that people won't be so harsh about. Just my opinion, and you're welcome to yours as well.
As a teacher who has done the math, teaching has greatly fallen behind its historical underpaid levels. In the 1980s and early 90s, a teacher was paid only slightly less than the average salary. Now, that number is not close to the point that there are positions that will never be filled. They are letting pretty much anyone teach if they will agree to show up. Teaching wavers are at an all-time high. In places like Knoxville and Nashville, living alone on a teaching salary is literally impossible. It cannot be done. With a base pay of 40k a year before insurance and retirement holdouts, effectively 28-30%, that is someone living off of 2400 a month. Rent, in most cases, is between 1,400 and 2,000 a month in bigger cities. From Nashville and east, it is almost impossible to find anything under 1000 a month right now. So, while I despise OF and will never partake in it unless they pay me to teach an essay on there, the poor teacher argument that many are presenting is valid. Most new teachers I know work one or two extra jobs just to get by. In Tennessee, where housing prices have exploded, entry-level positions are not paying enough to live. You say that they "didn't know I couldn't afford everything I bought," as some kind of idea that people are just blowing money that they cannot afford to spend, and that is undoubtedly the case sometimes; however, that is a bit of an overgeneralization. Five or six years ago, the 40k salary was a lot more valuable than it is now. Real inflation numbers place five years worth of inflation at over 20%, while over the same time span, that teaching salary has stayed the same. In most places, teaching salaries only go up every 10 years unless the counties or cities use a different pay scale. Years 0-10 have the same state mandated pay. 11-20, the same, 20+ the same.

Go look at the MNPS and KPS school postings. Hundreds of positions are available. The culture has changed. The rhetoric discussing teachers is filled with more vitriol than ever before. Originally in the US, teachers were largely unmarried, single women who couldn't date and were controlled by the community. They were the ones who weren't married, and though religiously this is something Jesus says should be celebrated as their marriage is to the kingdom of God, we, as an American society, have always looked down upon single women. There are tons of names for them, none of them positive. Old Maid, Crones, Crazy Cat Lady, etc, all are thrown around, and that type of rhetoric and thought is directly intertwined with teaching as a profession. Look at this thread, for example. There isn't a sex scandal for other jobs that work with children. In my town, I know of several pastors who have had to step down because they could not keep their hands off the children or women of the church.
 
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Too much politics these days.

When I was about 11 years old I had a paper route deliverying the Knoxville News Sentinel. It was/(is?) an afternoon paper except on Sunday Morning. The paper Company delivered my papers to me on Hillside drive. One Sunday morning I went to get my papers for delivery, and this guy in his late 20s-30s started talking to me, and he asked me if I wanted go to his apartment and he would take my picture. He was annoying to say the least. NOPE! He was creepy.

So later that day, like most Sundays, I went to church with my mother to --------Baptist Church in Oak Ridge. I couldn't believe it. The creepy guy was there and was introduced to the congregation as being considered for the youth pastor position. Ugh! I found my Sunday School Teacher, and told him my story. He said the guy I saw was his twin brother. But that guy was never seen again at our church. JMO, at least in the 60s most of the people at Baptist churches were decent people. Hopefully it is still that way?

Way too much politics in the church today. The AA church has long been an extension of the D party.

What took the cake was seeing a Baptist preacher in late 2020 compare Trump running in 2024 to the resurrection of Jesus...
 
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As a teacher who has done the math, teaching has greatly fallen behind its historical underpaid levels. In the 1980s and early 90s, a teacher was paid only slightly less than the average salary. Now, that number is not close to the point that there are positions that will never be filled. They are letting pretty much anyone teach if they will agree to show up. Teaching wavers are at an all-time high. In places like Knoxville and Nashville, living alone on a teaching salary is literally impossible. It cannot be done. With a base pay of 40k a year before insurance and retirement holdouts, effectively 28-30%, that is someone living off of 2400 a month. Rent, in most cases, is between 1,400 and 2,000 a month in bigger cities. From Nashville and east, it is almost impossible to find anything under 1000 a month right now. So, while I despise OF and will never partake in it unless they pay me to teach an essay on there, the poor teacher argument that many are presenting is valid. Most new teachers I know work one or two extra jobs just to get by. In Tennessee, where housing prices have exploded, entry-level positions are not paying enough to live. You say that they "didn't know I couldn't afford everything I bought," as some kind of idea that people are just blowing money that they cannot afford to spend, and that is undoubtedly the case sometimes; however, that is a bit of an overgeneralization. Five or six years ago, the 40k salary was a lot more valuable than it is now. Real inflation numbers place five years worth of inflation at over 20%, while over the same time span, that teaching salary has stayed the same. In most places, teaching salaries only go up every 10 years unless the counties or cities use a different pay scale. Years 0-10 have the same state mandated pay. 11-20, the same, 20+ the same.

Go look at the MNPS and KPS school postings. Hundreds of positions are available. The culture has changed. The rhetoric discussing teachers is filled with more vitriol than ever before. Originally in the US, teachers were largely unmarried, single women who couldn't date and were controlled by the community. They were the ones who weren't married, and though religiously this is something Jesus says should be celebrated as their marriage is to the kingdom of God, we, as an American society, have always looked down upon single women. There are tons of names for them, none of them positive. Old Maid, Crones, Crazy Cat Lady, etc, all are thrown around, and that type of rhetoric and thought is directly intertwined with teaching as a profession. Look at this thread, for example. There isn't a sex scandal for other jobs that work with children. In my town, I know of several pastors who have had to step down because they could not keep their hands off the children or women of the church.
I don't doubt you, my best friend is a teacher. He also drives a bus, does a few more things for extra money. Those things aren't going to get ridiculed though, like someone being a teacher, and posting on only fans. I agree they're underpaid, but it's not a surprise is what I'm saying. People going to school to be a teacher know what they're getting into. It's not fair, especially having to put up with punk kids nowadays. They used to bust out butt, then we'd get it at home, and the majority straightened up. Now, I've watched videos of teachers have to cover and take a beating, because if they defend themselves, they go to jail.
 
I don't doubt you, my best friend is a teacher. He also drives a bus, does a few more things for extra money. Those things aren't going to get ridiculed though, like someone being a teacher, and posting on only fans. I agree they're underpaid, but it's not a surprise is what I'm saying. People going to school to be a teacher know what they're getting into. It's not fair, especially having to put up with punk kids nowadays. They used to bust out butt, then we'd get it at home, and the majority straightened up. Now, I've watched videos of teachers have to cover and take a beating, because if they defend themselves, they go to jail.
My argument is that, yes, we know we are going to be underpaid. But, the level of underpayment has risen drastically. I have taught for ten years, and my salary this year has less buying power than it did my first year. I have accomplished things at my school that have literally NEVER been done before as a coach and a teacher. But, without my wife's income, we could not survive. I could not afford to do the job. It isn't that we are surprised by the underpayment as much as it is by the increasing level of underpayment. But teaching is a dying field. In 20 years, teaching will be a really small field, and most places will have program implementation specialists who companies like Pearson train and employ directly. Many systems are already implementing programs where teachers are only allowed to read directly from a script, and if a student asks questions, they have to answer with exactly what a script says. There is no real teaching involved. Literally, anyone can do that job. There is no expertise required. If you can read, you can teach in that model. So, LEAs are just going to be cutting checks. They can't fill the positions as they are, and the amount of teachers leaving to the amount of teachers entering and staying in the field is grossly imbalanced. Big companies are eating small companies, and education is an unending well of money. If you say it's for the kids, people have a hard time saying no. The companies make the test, mess with the statistics to show you the students are failing, and then sell a solution to fix the problem. It is the craziest, most ingenious business model of all time. And you are right; in many places, kids are way out of control. In just the last ten years, there has been a huge change. The fascinating part is that a lot of it is with a small age band. I teach HS, and the last two to three years have been especially rough. Those kids missed the first year or so of high school due to COVID-19 (it was a catastrophic mistake to close schools and will haunt us forever) and, as a result, lost a lot. Most places closed truancy courts, so they didn't come to school when they reopened. Then, you couldn't fail those students because of the fear of being sued. However, the younger classes are a little different. They may still have some hope.
 
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My argument is that, yes, we know we are going to be underpaid. But, the level of underpayment has risen drastically. I have taught for ten years, and my salary this year has less buying power than it did my first year. I have accomplished things at my school that have literally NEVER been done before as a coach and a teacher. But, without my wife's income, we could not survive. I could not afford to do the job. It isn't that we are surprised by the underpayment as much as it is by the increasing level of underpayment. But teaching is a dying field. In 20 years, teaching will be a really small field, and most places will have program implementation specialists who companies like Pearson train and employ directly. Many systems are already implementing programs where teachers are only allowed to read directly from a script, and if a student asks questions, they have to answer with exactly what a script says. There is no real teaching involved. Literally, anyone can do that job. There is no expertise required. If you can read, you can teach in that model. So, LEAs are just going to be cutting checks. They can't fill the positions as they are, and the amount of teachers leaving to the amount of teachers entering and staying in the field is grossly imbalanced. Big companies are eating small companies, and education is an unending well of money. If you say it's for the kids, people have a hard time saying no. The companies make the test, mess with the statistics to show you the students are failing, and then sell a solution to fix the problem. It is the craziest, most ingenious business model of all time. And you are right; in many places, kids are way out of control. In just the last ten years, there has been a huge change. The fascinating part is that a lot of it is with a small age band. I teach HS, and the last two to three years have been especially rough. Those kids missed the first year or so of high school due to COVID-19 (it was a catastrophic mistake to close schools and will haunt us forever) and, as a result, lost a lot. Most places closed truancy courts, so they didn't come to school when they reopened. Then, you couldn't fail those students because of the fear of being sued. However, the younger classes are a little different. They may still have some hope.
I'm not disagreeing with you at all, and know several very fine teachers. I wish you all were paid more, sincerely. It's just people in general are going to frown on a teacher trying to supplement her income through only fans. Of course a lot of guys won't care, but some parents will, and they'll cause a stink about it.
 
I'm not disagreeing with you at all, and know several very fine teachers. I wish you all were paid more, sincerely. It's just people in general are going to frown on a teacher trying to supplement her income through only fans. Of course a lot of guys won't care, but some parents will, and they'll cause a stink about it.
Only Fans may be one of the most damaging things in the world. People are addicted to it, and it is raising a generation that thinks they can prostitute themselves out without consequence. The money is staggering, but at what cost?
 
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Only Fans may be one of the most damaging things in the world. People are addicted to it, and it is raising a generation that thinks they can prostitute themselves out without consequence. The money is staggering, but at what cost?
Depends on the channel, but I typically wouldn't spend more than 9.99 a month.
 
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Only Fans may be one of the most damaging things in the world. People are addicted to it, and it is raising a generation that thinks they can prostitute themselves out without consequence. The money is staggering, but at what cost?

I'm seriously going to have to look into the only fans thing. A high paying side gig would be nice.
 
Your opinion doesn't hurt my feelings, or change my mind that he does. As much as I've seen man do wrong, I've seen the realness of God in my life. My parents were good people, but I was bad for a long time. They taught me opposite of how I done, and how I acted. Me not listening and being a bad person, didn't mean they didn't exist, or were evil, those were my choices. You're free to your opinion, and I truly hope you see his goodness at some point. I have over the past week today, from almost losing my wife, to seeing her miraculously pull through. Like I said though, it's not gonna hurt me, or change how I am to you at all. I will beat your butt for calling me a Georgia fan though!

I was going to say something similar about while currently going through so many trials and tribulations in my life,I still see light at the end of the tunnel in trying times with my faith. However,you covered it better than I could have. Religious debates tend not to get anywhere online,but this was an interesting detour from the current subject.

BTW,praise God for your wife's recovery,and I'll continue to keep you all in my prayers🙏
 

Our courts need to open a FansOnly account where they can publish all these photos and videos, national debt would be erased in weeks......
 

Our courts need to open a FansOnly account where they can publish all these photos and videos, national debt would be erased in weeks......

The boy said that he made several excuses to get out of the proposed rendezvous but did send Laughlin photos of his genitals at her request, according to the statement.

Kid went from sending pics of his junk to playing the victim card in a heartbeat.
 
to be fair, I'm sure that is a legitimate business expense. Probably out of place in this thread, though.
 

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