DG's Revised Giant List of Coaching Candidates (2nd Edition)

#76
#76
I would love to see examples of "home run" hires and maybe the closest thing to one this year. I believe "home run" coaches are the knowledgeable, experienced, and lucky coaches that survive rough years to build a competitive, above .800 winning percentage, and consistently show up in the top ten and National Championship playoffs. Saban, Meyer, Stoops, Spurrier, Miles, Bowden, Fulmer, were home run hires even if it didn't last or hasn't hit the skids yet.
 
#77
#77
Ok. Great List. Now let’s apply some assumptions here to see what we have left.
I have thrown out the First Yr Head Coaches (Taggart, Fleck, Brohm, Strong).
Next tossed the coordinators…have heard before that Currie is putting a premium on HC exp.
Then of course the Do Not Hires, although I might see them offering Chryst if they thought he’d come. Not buying the Alavarez effect.
So what does the list look like then:
1. Fuente: Agreed, very unlikely
2. Frost: Very unlikely given that I believe he already turned down FL and is waiting for NE.
3. Mullen: Could be angling for a raise. Has a lot of returning talent next year. Only reason he leaves is he is frustrated with swimming upstream against the Bama, Auburn, LSU
4. Gary Patterson: Again seems too unlikely. He has built something in TCU. Why leave now? Unless you think the B12 is going to fracture in the near future.
5. Jon Gruden: Won’t believe it until I see it.

A few others not listed that I would kick the tires on and make me say “no”…
Kyle Whittingham, Brian Harsin and Pat Fitzgerald---rumor mill, but how do we know that Currie was meeting with Campbell in Chicago and not Fitzgerald????


As most have stated on here you should make a “realistic” list then cross off the first 5 or so then you arrive at the most likely candidates:
6. So now this is where we find ourselves at Matt Campbell. Agreed that Campbell’s buyout seems way massive for his perceived risk.
7. Mike Norvell seems like he has stood on Fuente’s shoulders, benefited for a QB that he got lucky to get, etc. By all accounts he will be #2 candidate on Arky list behind Malzahn.
8. Chad Morris: Resume is thin, but SMU was a dumpster fire when he got there. Did a great job at Clemson. Keep hearing his name has as fall back at TAMU when Fisher and Franklin turn them down.
9. Next is Kevin Sumlin. For some reason, I think he will check a lot of Currie’s boxes. SEC/HC experience. Replacing Campbell possibly. When you stack his SEC record against Mullen’s he’s averaged 8.5 wins per year to Mullen’s 7.5. So only slightly better, but his cupboard was a lot fuller than Mullen’s. He went 11-1 his first year and it’s been downhill ever since. I could see him heading to the Big 12 however. Replacing Campbell possibly.
10. Agree with your comments on Dave Doeren. He just lost to Wake Forest. Average coach. If it’s him, let’s just hire back Clawfense.
11. Pelini – Averaged 9.5 wins a year at Nebraska. I think his record did not warrant dismissal. Did a great job as LSU’s D-coordinator. I would put him ahead of Norvell, Morris, or Sumlin.
12. Durkin – Has not earned the TN job. Come back in 3-4 yrs and if he’s winning 8 games/yr at Maryland, then maybe.
13. Satterfield – Need to see more. Needs to perform at a bigger G5 job or lower tier P5.
14. Schiano – Agreed w/ comments here. Recruited well at Rutgers and Ohio St. But his defense has underperformed against tough competition last couple of years. I would probably put him ahead of Durkin and Satterfield.

To summarize, I would pleasantly surprised if we did not get to down Matt Campbell as the first viable candidate. Experienced P5 coaches don’t voluntarily leave their current gig, they are usually just posturing for a raise. So this makes Fuente, Mullen, Patterson doubtful in my mind. So then you left with picking between P5 guys that have been run off, Coordinators, or G5 “raising stars”. In all reality can you argue that Mike Campbell, Mike Norvell, Chad Morris, or Kevin Sumlin would be a better coach at TN than Bo Pelini? I think not. It will be a roll of the dice, cross your fingers, and hope for the best.
 
#81
#81
Time for the 2nd edition of this list. This is a revised version of my original list. I've moved around a few candidates based on discussions on this board. Also added several more based on comments on VN and in the media. A few comments on the overall search first.


The Landscape

There are no “home run hires.” Everyone wants the “home run hire”, but the unfortunate truth of the matter is that there are no candidates that are sure-fire successes here. There are some great and very promising candidates, but no “home runs.”

It’s a tricky business. Pete Carroll was the 5th choice at USC; many USC fans hated the hire; Carroll turned out to be one of the most successful college coaches of all-time. Dabo Swinney was picked at Clemson after what was basically a “failed search.” Fans were disappointed. Swinney is now considered to be one of the 5 most successful coaches in the game. Meanwhile, plenty of moves that were considered “great hires” ended up being giant duds. Jim Mora at UCLA was considered a “home run” and he had early success, but hasn’t been able to sustain it. Rich Rod at Michigan was considered close to a “home run” and that experiment ended after 3 years. (Let's also not forget that Nick Saban was Bama's 2nd choice behind RichRod.) Charlie Strong was considered one of most promising coaches out there and failed at Texas. Finding a great coach is a trickier business than most realize.

Fierce competition. Unfortunately, we will have tough competition this go around, with several high-profile openings out there: Florida, Texas A&M (likely), UCLA, Nebraska (likely), and Arkansas (likely). Florida and A&M, in particular, could challenge for candidates that will be interested in the Tennessee job, as well.

Job is more attractive than in 2010 and 2012. We have talent. The recruiting landscape in Tennessee continues to get better every year. The next coach will have some issues to correct, but he will not inherit the absolute trainwreck Butch did or the dismal situation Dooley walked into. This is the most attractive the Tennessee job has been since 2008 when we inexplicably handed the keys to Kiffin.

Beating Saban is a major challenge. Contrary to popular perception, the SEC is filled with very good coaches. It’s just that the “good coaches” (Malzahn, Sumlin, McElwain, Mullen) have mostly beat each other up and none of them have been able to compete with the Nick Saban juggernaut. To make matters worse, it appears that Kirby Smart is now creating Alabama Junior at Georgia. There are plenty of “good coaches” out there; it’s going to take a great coach to win against Saban and Smart. And there simply aren’t a lot of “great coaches” out there.

Tennessee has major resources. The value that football brings to UT is immense. The university could afford to shell out $10 million annually for the right coach. But it’s also not a wise idea to just go throwing around money willy-nilly as we have seen that locking up coaches for huge contracts tends not to work out well when those coaches underperform significantly.

Coaching matters. Good coaching is often the difference between a middling program and a great one. We saw it at Alabama from the late 90s into the mid 00's. Similar deal with USC prior to Pete Carroll and Miami has been down for over a decade before finally "being back" this season with Mark Richt. We have a lot of talent on the roster, tons of resources, excellent facilities, one of the best stadiums in the country, but what we've lacked for a decade is great coaching.



The Candidates

Here are some of the candidates, ranked by my preference. I’m sure I’m missing some.


Top Tier

I'm defining a "top tier" hire as one that is relatively low-risk and high reward. I'd be very excited about any of the coaches in this "Top Tier" getting the job.


1. Justin Fuente. Yes
2. Scott Frost. Yes
3. Dan Mullen. Yes
4. Gary Patterson. Yes
5. Willie Taggart. No

6. Brent Venables. Maybe



Second Tier


I define a "2nd tier hire" as one with high upside, but significant risks. Risk, in many cases, comes from limited track records as a college coach, or no experience as head coach, or experience that may not translate. Nevertheless, I'd be optimistic about any of the coaches in the 2nd tier.


1. Jon Gruden. Not Happening
3. P.J. Fleck. No, talks in Butchisms.
4. Joe Moorhead. No
5. Matt Campbell. Yes
6. Mike Norvell. Yes
7. Chad Morris. Probably

8. Jeff Brohm. Yes
9. Chip Kelly. Probably not, Scott Frost made him successful.



Third Tier

My "3rd tier" candidates are mostly "good coaches" who I don't think can become elite coaches at Tennessee, or who have other issues (the special case of Lane Kiffin). I admit I would be disappointed if we hired any of the coaches on this list, but I could see a few of them having potential to work out.


1. Charlie Strong. NO!
2. Kevin Sumlin. Probably
3. Dave Doeren. Maybe

4. Lane Kiffin. He!! NO!!!
5. Bo Pelini. Probably not
6. D.J. Durkin. ?

7. Scott Satterfield. No
8. Greg Schiano. Yes



We Shouldn’t Even Consider

1. Mike MacIntyre. No
2. Paul Chryst. Yes
3. Les Miles. No
4. Mike Bobo. No
5. Bobby Petrino. He!! NO!

6. Jeremy Pruitt. Yes

Unrealistic Candidates

1. Bob Stoops. Winner
2. Mike Leach. Probably Not

3. Peyton Manning. Inexperienced but would be a winner.
4. David Cutcliffe. Too Old!
5. Chris Petersen. Isn't leaving Northwest, has a special needs child and family and resources are nearby.

6. Mark Dantonio. Too Old.

7. Jimbo Fisher. Yes
 
#82
#82
Football Scoop is now making fun of us on a grand scale.

From the latest update:

Several coaches have mentioned to us that John Currie is a Wake Forest alum, and is quite fond of the place. In the same breath they add Dave Clawson continues to do an outstanding job as a collegiate head coach. In his final two seasons at Fordham he won 19 games. In final three at Richmond he won 26 games. Final two at Bowling Green he won 18 and now in the past two at Wake he has won 14 games. The man is a good football coach.
 
#83
#83
Time for the 2nd edition of this list. This is a revised version of my original list. I've moved around a few candidates based on discussions on this board. Also added several more based on comments on VN and in the media. A few comments on the overall search first.


The Landscape

There are no “home run hires.” Everyone wants the “home run hire”, but the unfortunate truth of the matter is that there are no candidates that are sure-fire successes here. There are some great and very promising candidates, but no “home runs.”

It’s a tricky business. Pete Carroll was the 5th choice at USC; many USC fans hated the hire; Carroll turned out to be one of the most successful college coaches of all-time. Dabo Swinney was picked at Clemson after what was basically a “failed search.” Fans were disappointed. Swinney is now considered to be one of the 5 most successful coaches in the game. Meanwhile, plenty of moves that were considered “great hires” ended up being giant duds. Jim Mora at UCLA was considered a “home run” and he had early success, but hasn’t been able to sustain it. Rich Rod at Michigan was considered close to a “home run” and that experiment ended after 3 years. (Let's also not forget that Nick Saban was Bama's 2nd choice behind RichRod.) Charlie Strong was considered one of most promising coaches out there and failed at Texas. Finding a great coach is a trickier business than most realize.

Fierce competition. Unfortunately, we will have tough competition this go around, with several high-profile openings out there: Florida, Texas A&M (likely), UCLA, Nebraska (likely), and Arkansas (likely). Florida and A&M, in particular, could challenge for candidates that will be interested in the Tennessee job, as well.

Job is more attractive than in 2010 and 2012. We have talent. The recruiting landscape in Tennessee continues to get better every year. The next coach will have some issues to correct, but he will not inherit the absolute trainwreck Butch did or the dismal situation Dooley walked into. This is the most attractive the Tennessee job has been since 2008 when we inexplicably handed the keys to Kiffin.

Beating Saban is a major challenge. Contrary to popular perception, the SEC is filled with very good coaches. It’s just that the “good coaches” (Malzahn, Sumlin, McElwain, Mullen) have mostly beat each other up and none of them have been able to compete with the Nick Saban juggernaut. To make matters worse, it appears that Kirby Smart is now creating Alabama Junior at Georgia. There are plenty of “good coaches” out there; it’s going to take a great coach to win against Saban and Smart. And there simply aren’t a lot of “great coaches” out there.

Tennessee has major resources. The value that football brings to UT is immense. The university could afford to shell out $10 million annually for the right coach. But it’s also not a wise idea to just go throwing around money willy-nilly as we have seen that locking up coaches for huge contracts tends not to work out well when those coaches underperform significantly.

Coaching matters. Good coaching is often the difference between a middling program and a great one. We saw it at Alabama from the late 90s into the mid 00's. Similar deal with USC prior to Pete Carroll and Miami has been down for over a decade before finally "being back" this season with Mark Richt. We have a lot of talent on the roster, tons of resources, excellent facilities, one of the best stadiums in the country, but what we've lacked for a decade is great coaching.



The Candidates

Here are some of the candidates, ranked by my preference. I’m sure I’m missing some.


Top Tier

I'm defining a "top tier" hire as one that is relatively low-risk and high reward. I'd be very excited about any of the coaches in this "Top Tier" getting the job.


1. Justin Fuente. Long shot IMO. Gary Patterson protégé. I'd consider Fuente's turnaround job at Memphis to be one of the 5 most impressive jobs of this century. He turned a historically terrible Memphis program into a legit top 25 team. Turned VT around in 1 year and has been impressive in Year #2. One of the best offensive minds in the country. Unfortunately, I don’t think he’s leaving VT. Fuente took the VT job because of his strong relationship with AD Whit Babcock. He has a top 5 Defensive Coordinator in Bud Foster, who is probably staying until retirement. Expectations are lower. Path to conference title and playoff much easier in ACC than in the SEC. Already makes $3.2 million; while we could outbid VT, I suspect it’s more likely that he’d get a nice raise and stay at VT. Still, if I’m John Currie, I make the call, even if I’m likely to get rejected.

2. Scott Frost. Excellent coach. Crushing it at UCF this year. Helfrich’s OC at Oregon the 3 “good years”. One of the few coaches who has been a coordinator on both sides of the ball, as he was a DC at Northern Iowa before going to Oregon to coach on the offensive side. A list of mentors that is nearly insane (Tom Osborne, Bill Walsh, Chip Kelly, Jon Gruden, Bill Parcells, Bill Belichick). Out of the “up-and-comers”, the closest thing to a “home run hire” IMO. In spite of relatively short track record as HC, he's been extremely impressive in everything he's done. Biggest issue is that it will be tough to get him with both Florida and Nebraska likely having openings this season.

3. Dan Mullen. He’s done more with less at Miss State. 8 consecutive bowl games if you count this year (including an Orange Bowl appearance) at the toughest job in the SEC. Won 2 national titles as OC at Florida and turned Tim Tebow into a Heisman Trophy winner. Also molded Alex Smith into a top NFL prospect at Utah. He’s routinely coached up QBs, including current NFL QB Dak Prescott and 2-star QB Nick Fitzgerald. Could do wonders with someone like Jarrett Guarantano. He’s significantly improved recruiting at Miss State; which used to be ranked in the 40’s and 50’s recruiting wise, but has been boosted to the 20’s and 30’s under Mullen. Oh, and he’s only 45, which is how old Nick Saban was during his 2nd season at Michigan State back when he was a “Google coach” Biggest issue with getting Mullen is that he already makes $4.5 million, which is about the same as Butch. How much more do you have to pay him to come to Knoxville? Is it worth the risk? It’s not easy to recruit to Starkville. He’d get better players in Knoxville and would get to compete on a more level playing field. The case against Mullen is mostly that he’s struggled against the top 20. However, he’s never been close in talent to programs like Alabama, Auburn, LSU, and Texas A&M. He routinely has a schedule where he faces 5-6 teams with vastly superior talent, but he routinely has 8 - 10 win seasons. With better resources, Mullen could attract top talent, and conceivably compete for a national title at Tennessee. If he can win as much as he has at Miss State playing w/ a severe disadvantage, he can achieve even better results in Knoxville with some of the best resources in the nation.

4. Gary Patterson. Also a long-shot. Would’ve been a great hire back in 2008. He’s 57 now. Would he really want to start over? He’s taken TCU to heights never anticipated, but he has had a few down years recently (2013 and 2016). Nevertheless, undoubtedly one of the best coaches in the game.

5. Willie Taggart. I’ll state for the record that I do not think Taggart is a realistic candidate, but there are some rumblings that things aren’t working out in Oregon. I’d waive those off as “fake news” for now, but if it were true, Taggart did an excellent job turning around USF. He took over a 3-9 team and had them at 11-2 within 4 years. The USF team that is 9-1 this season was built by Taggart. Taggart also took a 0-12 Western Kentucky program and turned it into a winning program in 2 seasons. He’s a Jim Harbaugh protégé, who knows how to recruit south Florida and the Southeast. Oregon is a top-tier job, particularly with Nike’s resources, but it was sort of a questionable fit given Taggart’s background. My guess is that he stays at Oregon and he’s having success there in 2-3 years, but if he’s available, we absolutely should consider him.

6. Brent Venables. One of the best DCs in the nation. A top-notch recruiter. He’s a major reason behind Clemson’s recent success. His resume is basically a dream in terms of mentors: Bill Snyder, Bob Stoops, Dabo Swinney. He was DC for two different national championship teams. Even though he’s a defensive guy, he has a lot of connections, so it’s reasonable to believe he could fix the offense as well. The downsides are that he has no head coaching experience and given that he’s not an offensive guru, even if he made a great OC hire, it’s probably going to take a few years to get the offense fixed.




Second Tier


I define a "2nd tier hire" as one with high upside, but significant risks. Risk, in many cases, comes from limited track records as a college coach, or no experience as head coach, or experience that may not translate. Nevertheless, I'd be optimistic about any of the coaches in the 2nd tier.


1. Jon Gruden. I will receive a lot of hate for this, but even assuming Gruden wants to walk away from a $6.5 million year job where he only has to work one day a week, Gruden is 2nd tier hire IMHO. Not that it matters, because I don’t think he’d consider a college opening; he’s an NFL guy. Gruden was an above-average NFL coach who is brilliant at X’s and O’s, but the number of coaches who have made a successful NFL to college transition is pretty limited. Pete Carroll is one of the few success stories and the failures include Jim Mora, Mike Sherman, Bill Callahan, and Dave Wannstadt. In the college game, player development is vastly more important than X’s and O’s and Gruden’s biggest weakness in the NFL was player development. On the plus side, Gruden’s name recognition would almost certainly result in top 5 recruiting classes. I also think Gruden’s personality works better in college than some of the other failures on the NFL-to-college list. Perhaps Gruden could also figure out staff hires that would accommodate for his own weaknesses. I’m not against Gruden by any stretch of the imagination; just view him as a high-risk / high-reward hire. Sure he could be very successful, but unlike the guys in my 1st Tier, I could also see a scenario where Gruden has 8-5 type seasons regularly and fares about as well as Jim Mora did at UCLA. Also worth noting that Bill Callahan was Jon Gruden’s OC at Oakland and Callahan failed miserably as Head Coach at Nebraska primarily because his offense was too complex for college. That concerns me a bit.

2. Tee Martin. Very underrated IMO. Great recruiter. Very good OC. He’s never been a head coach before, and Tennessee isn’t exactly the easiest job to start with, but he has been at USC for several seasons, so he knows what it’s like to be in the pressure cooker. I wouldn’t quite put him on the level as Venables in terms of success, but he’s been very good. He’d be a gamble, but a reasonable one IMO if no top-tier candidate pans out. Also, for those clamoring for Lane Kiffin, Martin basically brings a Lane Kiffin style offense without Lane Kiffin style baggage and immaturity. The other big benefit with Martin; he’s a Wide Receiver and Quarterback coach and those are our two biggest problem areas right now.

3. P.J. Fleck. May or may not be realistic given that he's only been at Minnesota for less than a season. Fleck has an excellent track record in a very short period of time and he’s very young at age 36. He's also a former NFL Wide Receiver, which is great, because Wide Receiver is the position that is in greatest need of "fixing" at UT. His buyout appears rather manageable. Biggest question mark: can he recruit the South? He's been a Midwestern guy for his entire coaching career. Not quite “first tier” to me because his track record just isn’t long enough, but very promising thus far. I’d mostly ignore his results at Minnesota, as its rare for coaches to immediately have a program running well in Year 1.

4. Joe Moorhead. Very underrated. Not a well-known name, but he's been the OC at Penn State the past two seasons. Penn State’s offense took off after he took over and he’s put up high point totals against some very good defenses. I’d consider him among the 5 best OCs in the nation. Also a former Head Coach at Fordham, who took over a 1-10 team and turned them into a playoff team within 2 seasons; made the FCS playoffs his last 3 seasons. He’s the “anti-Butch”; he took over a Fordham program with few resources and major disadvantages and had to innovate his way to success. Moorhead could be a Jim Tressel “diamond in the rough” type that people are ignoring largely because a good chunk of his career was spent in FCS. Right now, I’d consider Moorhead to be one of the best out of the “realistic candidates.” Biggest question mark for me is recruiting. Moorhead has only been at a big time program (Penn State) for two years and I don’t see a lot of evidence that he’s a top-notch recruiter. If it weren’t for the question marks on recruiting, I’d consider Moorhead 1st Tier.

5. Matt Campbell. Iowa State coach that is making some noise in only his 2nd season. Iowa State is arguably one of the toughest jobs in the Big 12 and Campbell is doing very well. Big upset win over a top 5 Oklahoma team on the road. Very good track record at Toledo before I State. Nevertheless, track record is pretty short. Huge buyout makes it unlikely that he will be considered seriously.

6. Mike Norvell. Great offensive mind. Limited track record. He’s been successful in his 2 years at Memphis, but Justin Fuente built the program up before he got there. Nevertheless, his offenses have been very impressive. He’d be an upgrade over Butch Jones on the offensive end, at the very least. While I’d rather have one of the names above him on this list, I wouldn’t be disappointed with Norvell. At a minimum, he’d be an improvement over Butch Jones. I’d consider Norvell a “realistic worst case scenario” except that we’ve had enough bad hires that I realize that ADs are completely capable in coming up with “outside the box” awful hires (see Derek Dooley).

7. Chad Morris. Very accomplished as the former OC at Clemson under Dabo Swinney. He's slowly been rebuilding at SMU where he took over a 1-11 program. He's yet to turn the corner at SMU, but he has them competitive again at 6-4 with close games versus UCF and Navy. Morris could be a very good hire, but tough to evaluate him based on the mess he took over at SMU.

8. Jeff Brohm. On one hand, Brohm’s record is really not that different from Butch Jones’ before he got here. On the other hand, Brohm is actually one of the most well-respected offensive minds in the game. He’s basically Bobby Petrino w/o the baggage of Bobby Petrino. He’s known as an excellent QB coach and we desperately need that. Though, we really have no idea how he’d do with recruiting or anything like that. Some have concerns that he’d bolt for Louisville (his alma mater) if the job came open, but if he took the Tennessee job, I suspect he has ambitions to win a national title and he realizes that Tennessee is a better place for that than Louisville.

9. Chip Kelly. Very impressive record at Oregon (46-7) with 4 BCS bowl appearances. On paper, he looks like a dream candidate. In reality, I’m very skeptical that he can achieve those results again. Biggest problem is that NFL defenses “figured him out” within a few years to the point that the defenses were literally calling out the plays before they happened. His last year in Philly and San Fran were disasters. Kelly’s gimmick was the Hurry-Up No-Huddle offense, but this offense requires simplification, and defenses have increasingly adapted to it. It’s easy to say guys like Saban and Spurrier went to the NFL, failed and then went back to college to major success, and assume that applies to Kelly as well. But Saban is a master recruiter and organization guy and Kelly hasn’t shown the same ability to adapt his offense that Spurrier has. Kelly notoriously hates boosters and recruiting, a bad combination in Knoxville. I question whether he’d fit in at Tennessee and could see him failing in the same way that RichRod did in Ann Arbor. Not saying he couldn’t change his offense and have huge success; I just see him as a much bigger risk than most. If we could get him on the cheap for $3 million, I’d elevate him to “first tier” and say we should consider the risk. However, we’re probably going to have to pay him $6 million plus to lure him here and then he could flop big-time and we’re stuck in a worse situation than we were before. I just see him as too big of a risk given his likely salary demands.




Third Tier

My "3rd tier" candidates are mostly "good coaches" who I don't think can become elite coaches at Tennessee, or who have other issues (the special case of Lane Kiffin). I admit I would be disappointed if we hired any of the coaches on this list, but I could see a few of them having potential to work out.


1. Charlie Strong. Tough to figure him out. Had great success at Louisville. Bombed at Texas. Doing very well with Willie Taggart’s players at USF. He’s a good coach and DC; just tough to explain why he fared so poorly at Texas, but has done well literally everywhere else he’s been.

2. Kevin Sumlin. A very good and underrated coach, but not elite. Unfortunately, the SEC West got the best of him, but I could see him being very successful somewhere --- just not here. If he failed against Bama at Texas A&M, then he’s likely to fail in Knoxville as well. I kind hope to see him get a second chance at somewhere like UCLA or maybe a Big 12 job in the future.

3. Dave Doeren. Like Charlie Strong, tough to figure out. He's a good coach, but not clear if he can be a "great coach." Very impressively led Northern Illinois to the Orange Bowl back in 2012. He's had flashes of brilliance at NC State, but has never truly broken through. 8-5, 7-6, and 7-6 his past three seasons, with a few near-wins against power programs. Doeren is 7-3 this season with a win over Louisville and Florida State. He came close, once again, versus Clemson. Has struggled at times with recruiting, but his recruiting seems to improve with wins. I don't know if he would succeed in Knoxville or not; my gut says he's the type of guy who gets you to bowl games and 8- and 9- win seasons regularly and every now and then, gives you a 10-3 season. Not a terrible hire, but also not clear if he's the guy that can beat Nick Saban and win the SEC.

4. Lane Kiffin. Every fiber of my being hates considering this, but there's a legitimate case for Lane Kiffin as "G5 Coach of the Year." He's taken a Florida Atlantic program that was last in Conference USA and has moved them up to first place in a single season. The 2017 Lane Kiffin is worlds better than the 2008 Lane Kiffin. Difficult to see how he could come back to UT, however, after the train wreck he left behind. I’d probably put him in Tier 2 otherwise.

5. Bo Pelini. Underrated as a coach. 67-27 at Nebraska in spite of never being able to get top-tier talent. Had Youngstown State in the FCS Championship Game within 2 years, but seems to have taken a step back this year. Pelini would likely deliver solid results, but he's not a top-notch recruiter and I suspect he's a guy that can consistently get you to mid-tier bowl games and an occasionally top-tier bowl, but who doesn't really have us competing for the SEC.

6. D.J. Durkin. Add another one into the "difficult to evaluate" category. There is a good case for Durkin; successful DC under Will Muschamp; also a position coach under Harbaugh at Stanford; he was also DC at Michigan for Harbaugh's first season. Problem is that it's very difficult to evaluate his performance as Head Coach given that he's at Maryland and he's basically in a division with 4 monsters right now (Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan, and Michigan State). There are some very good coaches who would look like crap in that situation. Did a reasonable job last year and he's won a few that he wasn't supposed to. Not clear to me that he'd be a great coach in Knoxville, though.

7. Scott Satterfield. If I’m being honest, I really don’t know much about Scott Satterfield other than that he’s had a reasonable amount of success coaching Appalachian State. He was 11-2 in 2015 and 10-3 last season. So he’s a good coach. I’m not sure if his App State success would translate to Tennessee.

8. Greg Schiano. Known for turning Rutgers around. Also known as one of the worst NFL coaches in history. Was toxic for two years after leaving Tampa Bay. He’s a good coach, but not a “great coach.” While he made Rutgers relevant, he mostly did so by convincing top New Jersey recruits to “stay home” at Rutgers rather than leaving for Penn State, Ohio State, Florida, etc, etc, etc. That doesn’t seem to translate well to our situation, which is almost the exact opposite; we have loads of talent on the roster and excellent recruiting, but have had poor coaching. Schiano never proved himself to be an elite coach; won the games he was supposed to, and never won the Big East in spite of having better access to talent than many competitors. Mixed results as DC at Ohio State. I’m not sold on Schiano at all. And in truth, there are probably a few more OCs and DCs I’d consider above him.




We Shouldn’t Even Consider

1. Mike MacIntyre. Good coach, but I don't see him succeeding in Knoxville. Disciple of David Cutcliffe. MacIntyre’s inability to recruit concerns me a lot. The SEC is a tough conference and “coaching ‘em up” only goes so far when you have to compete against the Nick Saban juggernaut. Also, has not exactly been scandal-free in Boulder.

2. Paul Chryst. Stop me if you've heard this one before: Wisconsin coach decides to leave program he's having major success at for "greener pastures" (i.e. places w/ less control by Barry Alvarez); coach flops at his new job. So far as I can tell, the common denominator with Wisconsin's success is Barry Alvarez, not the head coach. It's weird, but how else do you explain the fact that it keeps happening? Worth noting that Chryst didn't exactly light it up at Pitt before he went to Wisconsin.

3. Les Miles. Why are people so enamored with Les Miles? He’s a good recruiter who hasn’t had a legit offense in years and who makes questionable in-game decisions. How does that differ from what we have right now with Butch Jones? LSU is the best job in the nation in terms of talent available. If Miles couldn’t succeed with an absolutely loaded LSU roster over the past several years, why would he succeed at Tennessee? Miles would be an absolutely atrocious hire. Ole Miss (which isn’t going to have a lot of good options) should go after him; there’s absolutely no reason for us to go down that route.

4. Mike Bobo. Several commentators have suggested Bobo as a great candidate to replace Jones. Can’t say I’m crazy about the idea. Bobo is underrated as an offensive mind, but he’s been decisively mediocre as a head coach. He was 7-6 each of the past two seasons at Colorado State. Remember, he took over CSU from Jim McElwain, who went 10-3 there during his final season, so it’s not like he took on a tough rebuilding job. Bobo basically has zero wins of note. Played Alabama closer than we did this year but that’s about the only thing you can really say. And besides, do we really want another Georgia guy as head coach? That worked out so well the first time. The only thing he’s really stood out for thus far is recruiting, but we already have a guy who can recruit, and our guy had much better results in the mid-majors before coming to Knoxville.

5. Bobby Petrino. It’s not only Petrino’s scandal-plague past that bothers me. It’s the fact that he’s left almost every place he’s been in crap-shape when he’s departed. He’s not a “program builder.” He’s a guy who knows X’s and O’s and overachieves while he’s there, but doesn’t really care about the long-term success of the program. The other issue: what has he done in the past several years that warrants consideration? He’s had one of the best QBs in college football, but has had rather average results at Louisville.

6. Jeremy Pruitt. I'd rather hire Lane Kiffin again than Pruitt. Pruitt was a toxic locker room presence while at Georgia and I also don't think it's a coincidence that he left Tallahassee after one season (in which he won a national title, and yet still made a lateral move to another school.) He's a great DC, but needs to be reigned in by someone like Saban. As a head coach, I think his toxic personality flaws would come to the forefront.


Unrealistic Candidates

1. Bob Stoops. Great coach. Not coming out of retirement. End of discussion.

2. Mike Leach. Great coach. Offensive genius. But he’s 56 years old and I think he’d much rather coach out of the media limelight in Pullman, rather than put himself under the microscope in Knoxville.

3. Peyton Manning. He’s never coached. His real desire is to be a GM. He can make millions per year from endorsements and basically doing whatever he wants. He’s not a real candidate and we shouldn’t hire him even if he were.

4. David Cutcliffe. Great coach. We should have hired him in ’08 instead of Kiffin, but it’s too late now. He’s 63 years old and he’s likely perfectly content to retire at Duke, where he’ll leave a long-term legacy, rather than spend the last years of his career under the pressure cooker in Knoxville.

5. Chris Petersen. Already at a Tier 1 job. Makes $4.2 million. Pacific Northwest guy. No reason to think he'd be interested in leaving his home region, especially now that he's built things up at Washington.

6. Mark Dantonio. Great coach, but he's 61 years old and not starting over in Knoxville.

7. Jimbo Fisher. In spite of the rumors on VN, I don't think he's a realistic candidate here. Huge buyout. No reason Florida State would want to get rid of him. FSU is a Tier 1 job and I don't see why he'd leave; and if he did want to leave, I'd almost view that as a red flag. However, in the extremely unlikely event that he were interested, then he'd certainly fall into the "Dream Hire" or "Tier 1" category.

8. Mark Richt. Probably the most comical of suggestions I've seen. He's competing for a national title at his alma mater which is a Tier 1 job. Richt was underrated at Georgia and I'm happy to see him have great success at Miami, but there's no chance in Hades that he's coming to Knoxville.

9. Mike Gundy. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to land Mike Gundy, but he's at his alma mater and he's not leaving. The only time he talks about other job openings is when he wants more money from T. Boone Pickens.

10. Jim Bob Cooter. Probably not realistic. I get the sense that Cooter is more interested in an NFL opening than college. Also, while he’s a great offensive mind, he’d be a high-risk hire. He has little experience coaching the college game, no real experience recruiting, and might have personal baggage that make him reluctant to be under the microscope in Knoxville. That said, difficult to deny that he’s a very promising coach.



Let the Discussion Began

Who Am I Missing? Any others out there? I'll try to add and edit the list as more names come out. I'm sure I'm missing a few right now, as well.

Debate Away. I'm interested in hearing perspectives on all of these. I want to know as much as possible.



GBO!

My guest is Frost will go to Florida because they will offer A LOT more money than Neb. Whether you like it or not money will motivate him to go. FL will out bid TN and Neb for his services. Fl will be right back in the National picture in a very short period of time. Dan Mullen, with a great OC and DC, could turn TN around and I truly believe be in the National picture. However, some thinks he will not leave Miss. State, but I do believe he will under the right circumstances. The circumstances being $$. When it's all said and done, I really feel he would be a great fit for TN and Currier should target him. Gruden is a no show because he's not worth the $ you would have to spend to get him. Top Tier coach only for TN. Anything less would be a failure for Currier and he knows this. Dilly, Dilly!
 
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Top Tier

1. Justin Fuente. Yes
2. Scott Frost. Yes
3. Dan Mullen. Yes
4. Gary Patterson. Yes.
5. Willie Taggart. No.
6. Brent Venables. Maybe
Second Tier


I define a "2nd tier hire" as one with high upside, but significant risks. Risk, in many cases, comes from limited track records as a college coach, or no experience as head coach, or experience that may not translate. Nevertheless, I'd be optimistic about any of the coaches in the 2nd tier.


1. Jon Gruden. Not Happening, move on.
2. Tee Martin. Not Yet.
3. P.J. Fleck. No, Speaks in Butchisms.
4. Joe Moorhead. No
5. Matt Campbell. Yes
6. Mike Norvell. Probably Yes
7. Chad Morris. Probably
8. Jeff Brohm. Yes
9. Chip Kelly. Maybe

Third Tier

My "3rd tier" candidates are mostly "good coaches" who I don't think can become elite coaches at Tennessee, or who have other issues (the special case of Lane Kiffin). I admit I would be disappointed if we hired any of the coaches on this list, but I could see a few of them having potential to work out.


1. Charlie Strong. No
2. Kevin Sumlin. Maybe
3. Dave Doeren. Probably not
4. Lane Kiffin. He!! No!
5. Bo Pelini. Maybe
6. D.J. Durkin. Nol
7. Scott Satterfield. Maybe
8. Greg Schiano. Yes

We Shouldn’t Even Consider
1. Charlie Strong. No
2. Paul Chryst. Yes
3. Les Miles. No
4. Mike Bobo. No
5. Bobby Petrino. He!! No!
6. Jeremy Pruitt. Yes

Unrealistic Candidates

1. Bob Stoops. Great coach.
2. Mike Leach. Probably Not.
3. Peyton Manning. Inexperienced but would be a winner.
4. David Cutcliffe. Great coach. Too Old.
5. Chris Petersen. Isn't leaving the Northwest, has a special needs child and family is nearby.
6. Mark Dantonio. Great coach. Too Old
7. Jimbo Fisher. Yes
8. Mark Richt. Not really, he's playing above his capabilities
9. Mike Gundy. Not anymore.
10. Jim Bob Cooter. Maybe
 
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There is zero way Gruden is a homerun hire. He's one of the highest risk hires on anyone's list and he would cost the most as well. He has no experience at the college level with running a program like Tennessee. Saban and Meyer were homerun hires BC they had built national title winners at the college level in previous stops. Gruden is a risk like Harbaigh but with several years away from coaching. I would support him but I don't see the cost justifying him. Hell if you're going to throw 8 or 9 million at someone make some elite college coaches say no first.

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Pretty good list, but Gruden and Kelly should be tier one without question, and should be 1a and 1b. The list should begin if there’s no way either are in play. It’s true, they are somewhat risks, but their possibilities are exponentially higher than anyone else. They are the only real names that would generate tons of excitement and that can turn us into a contender from day one.
 
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Good post; well thought out.
For whatever 2 cents it’s worth....(keeping in the real world, not fantasy land:
1. Mullen
2. Fuentes
3. Frost
4. Venables
5. Norvell
6. Taggert
7. Strong

Any of the top 4 would be excellent hires.
Got a sneaky suspicion that almost all of us will be disappointed when the music stops and the dust settles.

1. Mullen- stays at MSU w big raise; maybe
UF
2. Fuentes- stays at VT w big raise
3. Frost- Nebraska w big raise
4. Venables- stays at Clemson w raise;
Maybe Ta&m
5. Norvell - Arkansas (played and coached at
UCA); outside chance of MSU if
Mullen goes to UF
6. Taggert - replaced by C Kelly at Oregon;
Will go to UCLA (Phil
Knight opens Nike check
book to bring back the
Prodigal Son to recreate the
magic in hideous uniforms)
7. Strong- stays at USF w raise; flips UTK the
bird if they approach him.
Remember, 5 yrs ago UT told
him he would
get the job if Gundy turned it
down. Gundy said no; Stong
said no because he didn’t want
‘sloppy’ second place to that
booger eater w a mullet.
Personally, IMO would have
been the best hire last time
around. We got Forrest Gump
instead.

On second thought.....worth only 1 cent.
 
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So somebody please present some proof that Fuente, Frost, Mullen, Venables or Taggart should be listed above Les Miles.
 
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So somebody please present some proof that Fuente, Frost, Mullen, Venables or Taggart should be listed above Les Miles.

BC Miles is a moron who cannot manage a clock, wasted rosters full of NFL talent on 9 win teams that under achieved, could not develop a meaningful offense or QB, stubborn about changing his system despite being threatened w being fired (see CBJ).
Won NC w Saban ‘s players. Don’t want to hear recruiting prowess......anyone w LSU on their visor and clipboard should be able to get a top 10 class. Simply put, he was an idiot at an elite job with elite talent. How could he achieve more (or the same) at a place w less recruiting base and talent?

Aside from that......
 
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So somebody please present some proof that Fuente, Frost, Mullen, Venables or Taggart should be listed above Les Miles.

les miles is 64...it's not a matter of if he's a better coach at the moment or his accomplishments, it's a matter of fit. are there any other dumb questions you would like answered?
 
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BC Miles is a moron who cannot manage a clock, wasted rosters full of NFL talent on 9 win teams that under achieved, could not develop a meaningful offense or QB, stubborn about changing his system despite being threatened w being fired (see CBJ).
Won NC w Saban ‘s players. Don’t want to hear recruiting prowess......anyone w LSU on their visor and clipboard should be able to get a top 10 class. Simply put, he was an idiot at an elite job with elite talent. How could he achieve more (or the same) at a place w less recruiting base and talent?

Aside from that......

Miles record in the SEC and against ranked opponents renders your ridiculous post moot.
 
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This is an interesting thread. Thanks for Memphis guys weighing in on Norvell. I have enjoyed watching them this year but it seemed no defense was being played. Memphis is fun to watch and Norvell could be intriguing if he indeed is responsible for much of the talent on the roster.
 
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Miles record in the SEC and against ranked opponents renders your ridiculous post moot.

Is that you Les Miles?

Look at Les Miles record when he didn’t have SUPERIOR talent at LSU (even Gerry Dinardo could recruit LSU)

Les Miles Coaching Record | College Football at Sports-Reference.com

Based on your logic should we go after Larry Coker? He had an impressive record at Miami (also won with predecessors players and program)

Larry Coker Coaching Record | College Football at Sports-Reference.com
 
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Is that you Les Miles?

Look at Les Miles record when he didn’t have SUPERIOR talent at LSU (even Gerry Dinardo could recruit LSU)

Les Miles Coaching Record | College Football at Sports-Reference.com

Based on your logic should we go after Larry Coker? He had an impressive record at Miami (also won with predecessors players and program)

Larry Coker Coaching Record | College Football at Sports-Reference.com

Wow your argument is beyond weak. So you linked Miles record, thank you because it just reiterates my point that he would be a great hire. Like I have said, his conference record and against ranked competition bolster my point.

Based on my logic we should go after Coker? Hello straw man. Please tell me you are not comparing Coker at Miami to Miles at LSU. I guess you are, which tells me what I need to know.
 
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Time for the 2nd edition of this list. This is a revised version of my original list. I've moved around a few candidates based on discussions on this board. Also added several more based on comments on VN and in the media. A few comments on the overall search first.


The Landscape

There are no “home run hires.” Everyone wants the “home run hire”, but the unfortunate truth of the matter is that there are no candidates that are sure-fire successes here. There are some great and very promising candidates, but no “home runs.”

It’s a tricky business. Pete Carroll was the 5th choice at USC; many USC fans hated the hire; Carroll turned out to be one of the most successful college coaches of all-time. Dabo Swinney was picked at Clemson after what was basically a “failed search.” Fans were disappointed. Swinney is now considered to be one of the 5 most successful coaches in the game. Meanwhile, plenty of moves that were considered “great hires” ended up being giant duds. Jim Mora at UCLA was considered a “home run” and he had early success, but hasn’t been able to sustain it. Rich Rod at Michigan was considered close to a “home run” and that experiment ended after 3 years. (Let's also not forget that Nick Saban was Bama's 2nd choice behind RichRod.) Charlie Strong was considered one of most promising coaches out there and failed at Texas. Finding a great coach is a trickier business than most realize.

Fierce competition. Unfortunately, we will have tough competition this go around, with several high-profile openings out there: Florida, Texas A&M (likely), UCLA, Nebraska (likely), and Arkansas (likely). Florida and A&M, in particular, could challenge for candidates that will be interested in the Tennessee job, as well.

Job is more attractive than in 2010 and 2012. We have talent. The recruiting landscape in Tennessee continues to get better every year. The next coach will have some issues to correct, but he will not inherit the absolute trainwreck Butch did or the dismal situation Dooley walked into. This is the most attractive the Tennessee job has been since 2008 when we inexplicably handed the keys to Kiffin.

Beating Saban is a major challenge. Contrary to popular perception, the SEC is filled with very good coaches. It’s just that the “good coaches” (Malzahn, Sumlin, McElwain, Mullen) have mostly beat each other up and none of them have been able to compete with the Nick Saban juggernaut. To make matters worse, it appears that Kirby Smart is now creating Alabama Junior at Georgia. There are plenty of “good coaches” out there; it’s going to take a great coach to win against Saban and Smart. And there simply aren’t a lot of “great coaches” out there.

Tennessee has major resources. The value that football brings to UT is immense. The university could afford to shell out $10 million annually for the right coach. But it’s also not a wise idea to just go throwing around money willy-nilly as we have seen that locking up coaches for huge contracts tends not to work out well when those coaches underperform significantly.

Coaching matters. Good coaching is often the difference between a middling program and a great one. We saw it at Alabama from the late 90s into the mid 00's. Similar deal with USC prior to Pete Carroll and Miami has been down for over a decade before finally "being back" this season with Mark Richt. We have a lot of talent on the roster, tons of resources, excellent facilities, one of the best stadiums in the country, but what we've lacked for a decade is great coaching.



The Candidates

Here are some of the candidates, ranked by my preference. I’m sure I’m missing some.


Top Tier

I'm defining a "top tier" hire as one that is relatively low-risk and high reward. I'd be very excited about any of the coaches in this "Top Tier" getting the job.


1. Justin Fuente. Long shot IMO. Gary Patterson protégé. I'd consider Fuente's turnaround job at Memphis to be one of the 5 most impressive jobs of this century. He turned a historically terrible Memphis program into a legit top 25 team. Turned VT around in 1 year and has been impressive in Year #2. One of the best offensive minds in the country. Unfortunately, I don’t think he’s leaving VT. Fuente took the VT job because of his strong relationship with AD Whit Babcock. He has a top 5 Defensive Coordinator in Bud Foster, who is probably staying until retirement. Expectations are lower. Path to conference title and playoff much easier in ACC than in the SEC. Already makes $3.2 million; while we could outbid VT, I suspect it’s more likely that he’d get a nice raise and stay at VT. Still, if I’m John Currie, I make the call, even if I’m likely to get rejected.

2. Scott Frost. Excellent coach. Crushing it at UCF this year. Helfrich’s OC at Oregon the 3 “good years”. One of the few coaches who has been a coordinator on both sides of the ball, as he was a DC at Northern Iowa before going to Oregon to coach on the offensive side. A list of mentors that is nearly insane (Tom Osborne, Bill Walsh, Chip Kelly, Jon Gruden, Bill Parcells, Bill Belichick). Out of the “up-and-comers”, the closest thing to a “home run hire” IMO. In spite of relatively short track record as HC, he's been extremely impressive in everything he's done. Biggest issue is that it will be tough to get him with both Florida and Nebraska likely having openings this season.

3. Dan Mullen. He’s done more with less at Miss State. 8 consecutive bowl games if you count this year (including an Orange Bowl appearance) at the toughest job in the SEC. Won 2 national titles as OC at Florida and turned Tim Tebow into a Heisman Trophy winner. Also molded Alex Smith into a top NFL prospect at Utah. He’s routinely coached up QBs, including current NFL QB Dak Prescott and 2-star QB Nick Fitzgerald. Could do wonders with someone like Jarrett Guarantano. He’s significantly improved recruiting at Miss State; which used to be ranked in the 40’s and 50’s recruiting wise, but has been boosted to the 20’s and 30’s under Mullen. Oh, and he’s only 45, which is how old Nick Saban was during his 2nd season at Michigan State back when he was a “Google coach” Biggest issue with getting Mullen is that he already makes $4.5 million, which is about the same as Butch. How much more do you have to pay him to come to Knoxville? Is it worth the risk? It’s not easy to recruit to Starkville. He’d get better players in Knoxville and would get to compete on a more level playing field. The case against Mullen is mostly that he’s struggled against the top 20. However, he’s never been close in talent to programs like Alabama, Auburn, LSU, and Texas A&M. He routinely has a schedule where he faces 5-6 teams with vastly superior talent, but he routinely has 8 - 10 win seasons. With better resources, Mullen could attract top talent, and conceivably compete for a national title at Tennessee. If he can win as much as he has at Miss State playing w/ a severe disadvantage, he can achieve even better results in Knoxville with some of the best resources in the nation.

4. Gary Patterson. Also a long-shot. Would’ve been a great hire back in 2008. He’s 57 now. Would he really want to start over? He’s taken TCU to heights never anticipated, but he has had a few down years recently (2013 and 2016). Nevertheless, undoubtedly one of the best coaches in the game.

5. Willie Taggart. I’ll state for the record that I do not think Taggart is a realistic candidate, but there are some rumblings that things aren’t working out in Oregon. I’d waive those off as “fake news” for now, but if it were true, Taggart did an excellent job turning around USF. He took over a 3-9 team and had them at 11-2 within 4 years. The USF team that is 9-1 this season was built by Taggart. Taggart also took a 0-12 Western Kentucky program and turned it into a winning program in 2 seasons. He’s a Jim Harbaugh protégé, who knows how to recruit south Florida and the Southeast. Oregon is a top-tier job, particularly with Nike’s resources, but it was sort of a questionable fit given Taggart’s background. My guess is that he stays at Oregon and he’s having success there in 2-3 years, but if he’s available, we absolutely should consider him.

6. Brent Venables. One of the best DCs in the nation. A top-notch recruiter. He’s a major reason behind Clemson’s recent success. His resume is basically a dream in terms of mentors: Bill Snyder, Bob Stoops, Dabo Swinney. He was DC for two different national championship teams. Even though he’s a defensive guy, he has a lot of connections, so it’s reasonable to believe he could fix the offense as well. The downsides are that he has no head coaching experience and given that he’s not an offensive guru, even if he made a great OC hire, it’s probably going to take a few years to get the offense fixed.




Second Tier


I define a "2nd tier hire" as one with high upside, but significant risks. Risk, in many cases, comes from limited track records as a college coach, or no experience as head coach, or experience that may not translate. Nevertheless, I'd be optimistic about any of the coaches in the 2nd tier.


1. Jon Gruden. I will receive a lot of hate for this, but even assuming Gruden wants to walk away from a $6.5 million year job where he only has to work one day a week, Gruden is 2nd tier hire IMHO. Not that it matters, because I don’t think he’d consider a college opening; he’s an NFL guy. Gruden was an above-average NFL coach who is brilliant at X’s and O’s, but the number of coaches who have made a successful NFL to college transition is pretty limited. Pete Carroll is one of the few success stories and the failures include Jim Mora, Mike Sherman, Bill Callahan, and Dave Wannstadt. In the college game, player development is vastly more important than X’s and O’s and Gruden’s biggest weakness in the NFL was player development. On the plus side, Gruden’s name recognition would almost certainly result in top 5 recruiting classes. I also think Gruden’s personality works better in college than some of the other failures on the NFL-to-college list. Perhaps Gruden could also figure out staff hires that would accommodate for his own weaknesses. I’m not against Gruden by any stretch of the imagination; just view him as a high-risk / high-reward hire. Sure he could be very successful, but unlike the guys in my 1st Tier, I could also see a scenario where Gruden has 8-5 type seasons regularly and fares about as well as Jim Mora did at UCLA. Also worth noting that Bill Callahan was Jon Gruden’s OC at Oakland and Callahan failed miserably as Head Coach at Nebraska primarily because his offense was too complex for college. That concerns me a bit.

2. Tee Martin. Very underrated IMO. Great recruiter. Very good OC. He’s never been a head coach before, and Tennessee isn’t exactly the easiest job to start with, but he has been at USC for several seasons, so he knows what it’s like to be in the pressure cooker. I wouldn’t quite put him on the level as Venables in terms of success, but he’s been very good. He’d be a gamble, but a reasonable one IMO if no top-tier candidate pans out. Also, for those clamoring for Lane Kiffin, Martin basically brings a Lane Kiffin style offense without Lane Kiffin style baggage and immaturity. The other big benefit with Martin; he’s a Wide Receiver and Quarterback coach and those are our two biggest problem areas right now.

3. P.J. Fleck. May or may not be realistic given that he's only been at Minnesota for less than a season. Fleck has an excellent track record in a very short period of time and he’s very young at age 36. He's also a former NFL Wide Receiver, which is great, because Wide Receiver is the position that is in greatest need of "fixing" at UT. His buyout appears rather manageable. Biggest question mark: can he recruit the South? He's been a Midwestern guy for his entire coaching career. Not quite “first tier” to me because his track record just isn’t long enough, but very promising thus far. I’d mostly ignore his results at Minnesota, as its rare for coaches to immediately have a program running well in Year 1.

4. Joe Moorhead. Very underrated. Not a well-known name, but he's been the OC at Penn State the past two seasons. Penn State’s offense took off after he took over and he’s put up high point totals against some very good defenses. I’d consider him among the 5 best OCs in the nation. Also a former Head Coach at Fordham, who took over a 1-10 team and turned them into a playoff team within 2 seasons; made the FCS playoffs his last 3 seasons. He’s the “anti-Butch”; he took over a Fordham program with few resources and major disadvantages and had to innovate his way to success. Moorhead could be a Jim Tressel “diamond in the rough” type that people are ignoring largely because a good chunk of his career was spent in FCS. Right now, I’d consider Moorhead to be one of the best out of the “realistic candidates.” Biggest question mark for me is recruiting. Moorhead has only been at a big time program (Penn State) for two years and I don’t see a lot of evidence that he’s a top-notch recruiter. If it weren’t for the question marks on recruiting, I’d consider Moorhead 1st Tier.

5. Matt Campbell. Iowa State coach that is making some noise in only his 2nd season. Iowa State is arguably one of the toughest jobs in the Big 12 and Campbell is doing very well. Big upset win over a top 5 Oklahoma team on the road. Very good track record at Toledo before I State. Nevertheless, track record is pretty short. Huge buyout makes it unlikely that he will be considered seriously.

6. Mike Norvell. Great offensive mind. Limited track record. He’s been successful in his 2 years at Memphis, but Justin Fuente built the program up before he got there. Nevertheless, his offenses have been very impressive. He’d be an upgrade over Butch Jones on the offensive end, at the very least. While I’d rather have one of the names above him on this list, I wouldn’t be disappointed with Norvell. At a minimum, he’d be an improvement over Butch Jones. I’d consider Norvell a “realistic worst case scenario” except that we’ve had enough bad hires that I realize that ADs are completely capable in coming up with “outside the box” awful hires (see Derek Dooley).

7. Chad Morris. Very accomplished as the former OC at Clemson under Dabo Swinney. He's slowly been rebuilding at SMU where he took over a 1-11 program. He's yet to turn the corner at SMU, but he has them competitive again at 6-4 with close games versus UCF and Navy. Morris could be a very good hire, but tough to evaluate him based on the mess he took over at SMU.

8. Jeff Brohm. On one hand, Brohm’s record is really not that different from Butch Jones’ before he got here. On the other hand, Brohm is actually one of the most well-respected offensive minds in the game. He’s basically Bobby Petrino w/o the baggage of Bobby Petrino. He’s known as an excellent QB coach and we desperately need that. Though, we really have no idea how he’d do with recruiting or anything like that. Some have concerns that he’d bolt for Louisville (his alma mater) if the job came open, but if he took the Tennessee job, I suspect he has ambitions to win a national title and he realizes that Tennessee is a better place for that than Louisville.

9. Chip Kelly. Very impressive record at Oregon (46-7) with 4 BCS bowl appearances. On paper, he looks like a dream candidate. In reality, I’m very skeptical that he can achieve those results again. Biggest problem is that NFL defenses “figured him out” within a few years to the point that the defenses were literally calling out the plays before they happened. His last year in Philly and San Fran were disasters. Kelly’s gimmick was the Hurry-Up No-Huddle offense, but this offense requires simplification, and defenses have increasingly adapted to it. It’s easy to say guys like Saban and Spurrier went to the NFL, failed and then went back to college to major success, and assume that applies to Kelly as well. But Saban is a master recruiter and organization guy and Kelly hasn’t shown the same ability to adapt his offense that Spurrier has. Kelly notoriously hates boosters and recruiting, a bad combination in Knoxville. I question whether he’d fit in at Tennessee and could see him failing in the same way that RichRod did in Ann Arbor. Not saying he couldn’t change his offense and have huge success; I just see him as a much bigger risk than most. If we could get him on the cheap for $3 million, I’d elevate him to “first tier” and say we should consider the risk. However, we’re probably going to have to pay him $6 million plus to lure him here and then he could flop big-time and we’re stuck in a worse situation than we were before. I just see him as too big of a risk given his likely salary demands.




Third Tier

My "3rd tier" candidates are mostly "good coaches" who I don't think can become elite coaches at Tennessee, or who have other issues (the special case of Lane Kiffin). I admit I would be disappointed if we hired any of the coaches on this list, but I could see a few of them having potential to work out.


1. Charlie Strong. Tough to figure him out. Had great success at Louisville. Bombed at Texas. Doing very well with Willie Taggart’s players at USF. He’s a good coach and DC; just tough to explain why he fared so poorly at Texas, but has done well literally everywhere else he’s been.

2. Kevin Sumlin. A very good and underrated coach, but not elite. Unfortunately, the SEC West got the best of him, but I could see him being very successful somewhere --- just not here. If he failed against Bama at Texas A&M, then he’s likely to fail in Knoxville as well. I kind hope to see him get a second chance at somewhere like UCLA or maybe a Big 12 job in the future.

3. Dave Doeren. Like Charlie Strong, tough to figure out. He's a good coach, but not clear if he can be a "great coach." Very impressively led Northern Illinois to the Orange Bowl back in 2012. He's had flashes of brilliance at NC State, but has never truly broken through. 8-5, 7-6, and 7-6 his past three seasons, with a few near-wins against power programs. Doeren is 7-3 this season with a win over Louisville and Florida State. He came close, once again, versus Clemson. Has struggled at times with recruiting, but his recruiting seems to improve with wins. I don't know if he would succeed in Knoxville or not; my gut says he's the type of guy who gets you to bowl games and 8- and 9- win seasons regularly and every now and then, gives you a 10-3 season. Not a terrible hire, but also not clear if he's the guy that can beat Nick Saban and win the SEC.

4. Lane Kiffin. Every fiber of my being hates considering this, but there's a legitimate case for Lane Kiffin as "G5 Coach of the Year." He's taken a Florida Atlantic program that was last in Conference USA and has moved them up to first place in a single season. The 2017 Lane Kiffin is worlds better than the 2008 Lane Kiffin. Difficult to see how he could come back to UT, however, after the train wreck he left behind. I’d probably put him in Tier 2 otherwise.

5. Bo Pelini. Underrated as a coach. 67-27 at Nebraska in spite of never being able to get top-tier talent. Had Youngstown State in the FCS Championship Game within 2 years, but seems to have taken a step back this year. Pelini would likely deliver solid results, but he's not a top-notch recruiter and I suspect he's a guy that can consistently get you to mid-tier bowl games and an occasionally top-tier bowl, but who doesn't really have us competing for the SEC.

6. D.J. Durkin. Add another one into the "difficult to evaluate" category. There is a good case for Durkin; successful DC under Will Muschamp; also a position coach under Harbaugh at Stanford; he was also DC at Michigan for Harbaugh's first season. Problem is that it's very difficult to evaluate his performance as Head Coach given that he's at Maryland and he's basically in a division with 4 monsters right now (Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan, and Michigan State). There are some very good coaches who would look like crap in that situation. Did a reasonable job last year and he's won a few that he wasn't supposed to. Not clear to me that he'd be a great coach in Knoxville, though.

7. Scott Satterfield. If I’m being honest, I really don’t know much about Scott Satterfield other than that he’s had a reasonable amount of success coaching Appalachian State. He was 11-2 in 2015 and 10-3 last season. So he’s a good coach. I’m not sure if his App State success would translate to Tennessee.

8. Greg Schiano. Known for turning Rutgers around. Also known as one of the worst NFL coaches in history. Was toxic for two years after leaving Tampa Bay. He’s a good coach, but not a “great coach.” While he made Rutgers relevant, he mostly did so by convincing top New Jersey recruits to “stay home” at Rutgers rather than leaving for Penn State, Ohio State, Florida, etc, etc, etc. That doesn’t seem to translate well to our situation, which is almost the exact opposite; we have loads of talent on the roster and excellent recruiting, but have had poor coaching. Schiano never proved himself to be an elite coach; won the games he was supposed to, and never won the Big East in spite of having better access to talent than many competitors. Mixed results as DC at Ohio State. I’m not sold on Schiano at all. And in truth, there are probably a few more OCs and DCs I’d consider above him.




We Shouldn’t Even Consider

1. Mike MacIntyre. Good coach, but I don't see him succeeding in Knoxville. Disciple of David Cutcliffe. MacIntyre’s inability to recruit concerns me a lot. The SEC is a tough conference and “coaching ‘em up” only goes so far when you have to compete against the Nick Saban juggernaut. Also, has not exactly been scandal-free in Boulder.

2. Paul Chryst. Stop me if you've heard this one before: Wisconsin coach decides to leave program he's having major success at for "greener pastures" (i.e. places w/ less control by Barry Alvarez); coach flops at his new job. So far as I can tell, the common denominator with Wisconsin's success is Barry Alvarez, not the head coach. It's weird, but how else do you explain the fact that it keeps happening? Worth noting that Chryst didn't exactly light it up at Pitt before he went to Wisconsin.

3. Les Miles. Why are people so enamored with Les Miles? He’s a good recruiter who hasn’t had a legit offense in years and who makes questionable in-game decisions. How does that differ from what we have right now with Butch Jones? LSU is the best job in the nation in terms of talent available. If Miles couldn’t succeed with an absolutely loaded LSU roster over the past several years, why would he succeed at Tennessee? Miles would be an absolutely atrocious hire. Ole Miss (which isn’t going to have a lot of good options) should go after him; there’s absolutely no reason for us to go down that route.

4. Mike Bobo. Several commentators have suggested Bobo as a great candidate to replace Jones. Can’t say I’m crazy about the idea. Bobo is underrated as an offensive mind, but he’s been decisively mediocre as a head coach. He was 7-6 each of the past two seasons at Colorado State. Remember, he took over CSU from Jim McElwain, who went 10-3 there during his final season, so it’s not like he took on a tough rebuilding job. Bobo basically has zero wins of note. Played Alabama closer than we did this year but that’s about the only thing you can really say. And besides, do we really want another Georgia guy as head coach? That worked out so well the first time. The only thing he’s really stood out for thus far is recruiting, but we already have a guy who can recruit, and our guy had much better results in the mid-majors before coming to Knoxville.

5. Bobby Petrino. It’s not only Petrino’s scandal-plague past that bothers me. It’s the fact that he’s left almost every place he’s been in crap-shape when he’s departed. He’s not a “program builder.” He’s a guy who knows X’s and O’s and overachieves while he’s there, but doesn’t really care about the long-term success of the program. The other issue: what has he done in the past several years that warrants consideration? He’s had one of the best QBs in college football, but has had rather average results at Louisville.

6. Jeremy Pruitt. I'd rather hire Lane Kiffin again than Pruitt. Pruitt was a toxic locker room presence while at Georgia and I also don't think it's a coincidence that he left Tallahassee after one season (in which he won a national title, and yet still made a lateral move to another school.) He's a great DC, but needs to be reigned in by someone like Saban. As a head coach, I think his toxic personality flaws would come to the forefront.


Unrealistic Candidates

1. Bob Stoops. Great coach. Not coming out of retirement. End of discussion.

2. Mike Leach. Great coach. Offensive genius. But he’s 56 years old and I think he’d much rather coach out of the media limelight in Pullman, rather than put himself under the microscope in Knoxville.

3. Peyton Manning. He’s never coached. His real desire is to be a GM. He can make millions per year from endorsements and basically doing whatever he wants. He’s not a real candidate and we shouldn’t hire him even if he were.

4. David Cutcliffe. Great coach. We should have hired him in ’08 instead of Kiffin, but it’s too late now. He’s 63 years old and he’s likely perfectly content to retire at Duke, where he’ll leave a long-term legacy, rather than spend the last years of his career under the pressure cooker in Knoxville.

5. Chris Petersen. Already at a Tier 1 job. Makes $4.2 million. Pacific Northwest guy. No reason to think he'd be interested in leaving his home region, especially now that he's built things up at Washington.

6. Mark Dantonio. Great coach, but he's 61 years old and not starting over in Knoxville.

7. Jimbo Fisher. In spite of the rumors on VN, I don't think he's a realistic candidate here. Huge buyout. No reason Florida State would want to get rid of him. FSU is a Tier 1 job and I don't see why he'd leave; and if he did want to leave, I'd almost view that as a red flag. However, in the extremely unlikely event that he were interested, then he'd certainly fall into the "Dream Hire" or "Tier 1" category.

8. Mark Richt. Probably the most comical of suggestions I've seen. He's competing for a national title at his alma mater which is a Tier 1 job. Richt was underrated at Georgia and I'm happy to see him have great success at Miami, but there's no chance in Hades that he's coming to Knoxville.

9. Mike Gundy. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to land Mike Gundy, but he's at his alma mater and he's not leaving. The only time he talks about other job openings is when he wants more money from T. Boone Pickens.

10. Jim Bob Cooter. Probably not realistic. I get the sense that Cooter is more interested in an NFL opening than college. Also, while he’s a great offensive mind, he’d be a high-risk hire. He has little experience coaching the college game, no real experience recruiting, and might have personal baggage that make him reluctant to be under the microscope in Knoxville. That said, difficult to deny that he’s a very promising coach.



Let the Discussion Began

Who Am I Missing? Any others out there? I'll try to add and edit the list as more names come out. I'm sure I'm missing a few right now, as well.

Debate Away. I'm interested in hearing perspectives on all of these. I want to know as much as possible.



GBO!

How are Frost, Mullen and Taggart top tier options? All are at best in the 2nd tier and would argue Taggart career record puts him in the 3rd tier. Brohm definitely should be ahead of Frost simply based off of more HCc experience, more success and has a power 5 job at a bottom feeder Big 10 school. If he gets Purdue bowl eligible that would be one of the best coaching jobs by a first year coach at a new school this year. Especially when you consider what he has to work with.And damn near beat Louisville and Wisc this year. I just can see how any logical fan with any sort of football IQ has Frost ahead of Brohm on any level. Based off their full bodies of work as a HC. Frost may win 5 Championships one day but nothing on his resume has earned him being a top tier coach.George O'Leary went 12-1 at UCF one year and several other 10+ win seasons at UCF and he wasn't a great HC or garnered the hype Frost is getting for pretty much doing the same thing at the same school but did it many times at UCF. I'm sure I'm missing something on Frost but gave up trying to figure it out.
 
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So somebody please present some proof that Fuente, Frost, Mullen, Venables or Taggart should be listed above Les Miles.[/QUOTE

The fact that if both of his synapses are firing at once, the dolt will speak in broken sentences that resemble some type of an alien language when responding to the sidelines reporter about what halftime changes will be made.....”that locker room has young men who play football; they wear uniforms with pads; they play a field; that field has grass that they will play on”......that s**t is downright funny when it is coming from the coach on the opposite side of the field; f’n embarrassing when it comes from your coach!!

Then again, we had to endure 5 yrs of “110%, brick by brick, all for one, no pain no gain” coaches dribble that one would learn from a beginners Coaching 101 class at Itawamba Junior College. Look where that got us!
 
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Don't really know why but I have never thought of Miles as a top tier coach, even when he coached in the NC games. He doesn't seem to out X & O any opponent just out talent them. He does take chances, but how many times can you convert going for it on 4th down 4 times in a row and making all four. In addition he probably wouldn't coach but maybe 4 or 5 years but I'd think we'd be glad to have a change by then anyway!!!
 
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Wow your argument is beyond weak. So you linked Miles record, thank you because it just reiterates my point that he would be a great hire. Like I have said, his conference record and against ranked competition bolster my point.

Based on my logic we should go after Coker? Hello straw man. Please tell me you are not comparing Coker at Miami to Miles at LSU. I guess you are, which tells me what I need to know.

If Les Miles is a top tier coach then why didn’t Purdue hire him? He made it well known he was interested in the job.

Please tell me how Miles would revive our offense based on his history at LSU. I will hang up and listen.
 

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