How many games do we get to play before season is cancelled?

How many games do we get to play before season gets cancelled?

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#51
#51
My prediction is that we won't get more than one week into the season before it is cancelled. And it won't be outbreaks among football players that will prompt it, but rather outbreaks of the virus among the general student population. This will cause administrators to send students home from campuses. In that scenario, there is no way football can proceed, as the powers that be won't tolerate a situation where its considered too dangerous for students to be on campus, but players are required to be there. JMHO.
 
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#52
#52
sjt18 said:
Why should "cases" have anything to do with it if the IFR stays as low as it is now and particularly among athletes or people likely to show up for a game? Wouldn't the better answer be to tell those who are vulnerable to stay at home and as a general rule advise those living with a high risk person to wear masks when at home and in their presence?
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There have been lots of models that show that trying to lock away one part of society while everyone else runs free infecting each other will not work. The vulnerable will eventually be exposed. The only way it could work is if we all stay distanced.
 
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MWAVolfan said:
There have been lots of models that show that trying to lock away one part of society while everyone else runs free infecting each other will not work. The vulnerable will eventually be exposed. The only way it could work is if we all stay distanced.
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Then why are cases going down every week despite stores and restaurants being open?
 
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sjt18 said:
Why should "cases" have anything to do with it if the IFR stays as low as it is now and particularly among athletes or people likely to show up for a game? Wouldn't the better answer be to tell those who are vulnerable to stay at home and as a general rule advise those living with a high risk person to wear masks when at home and in their presence?
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The idea that these kids play in a bubble where only they are at risk is a gross miscalculation. What about the coaches, trainers, auxiliary staff, stadium workers, custodians, food service workers, referees, members of the media, bus drivers, hotel workers fans and literally everyone else that surrounds a football team that isn't a teenager. Plus, I'm sure there are plenty of college football players who are diabetic or have other known health issues already.
 
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FBtime said:
Then why are cases going down every week despite stores and restaurants being open?
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Because states began to re-enact stricter enforcement of guidelines. Plus by the end of September schools will be back open. 2-3 weeks after that happens lets see what the numbers look like. You can already see the cases going back up as some souther school districts re-open in person learning.

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MWAVolfan said:
Because states began to re-enact stricter enforcement of guidelines. Plus by the end of September schools will be back open. 2-3 weeks after that happens lets see what the numbers look like. You can already see the cases going back up as some souther school districts re-open in person learning.

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You're not very smart. If you care to notice the pattern you will see a gradual increase on Mon-Friday dipping back down on the weekends. Those groupings represent one week. Each of the highest days is a Friday. So week by week cases are going down.
 
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MWAVolfan said:
Because states began to re-enact stricter enforcement of guidelines. Plus by the end of September schools will be back open. 2-3 weeks after that happens lets see what the numbers look like. You can already see the cases going back up as some souther school districts re-open in person learning.

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You realize we test more than any other country right? Not only that these tests have given a false positive too. The data is skewed.
 
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MWAVolfan said:
The idea that these kids play in a bubble where only they are at risk is a gross miscalculation. What about the coaches, trainers, auxiliary staff, stadium workers, custodians, food service workers, referees, members of the media, bus drivers, hotel workers fans and literally everyone else that surrounds a football team that isn't a teenager. Plus, I'm sure there are plenty of college football players who are diabetic or have other known health issues already.
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So you buy into the idea that we quarantine or muzzle the healthy on the EXTREMELY low chance that they are both capable of spreading the virus and incidentally come in "close contact" with a vulnerable person?

It isn't just teenagers that are at low risk. Look at the demographics. Even healthy older people face minimal risks. If you are under 50 and do not have a significant health condition then you chances of dying are nil. But even if you are a healthy person up to around 70 your chances are very good.

The AVERAGE US Covid related fatality is 78 years old and has 2.5 OTHER comorbidities.. So NO, it is NOT "literally everyone else". It is almost exclusively a very defined group of people who are over 70 and/or have SEVERE and usually known health issues.

Just being diabetic and especially if managed... will not cause someone to die of Covid. In fact, that was mentioned as a significant factor early on but current CDC data says only about 14% of Covid fatalities had diabetes. Only 5838 of that 22505 were under 65 years old. Since deaths under 60 are rare that is still a significant factor in younger deaths... however you have to compare that to the total number of Americans who have diabetes. It is a very low ratio.
 
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MWAVolfan said:
Because states began to re-enact stricter enforcement of guidelines. Plus by the end of September schools will be back open. 2-3 weeks after that happens lets see what the numbers look like. You can already see the cases going back up as some souther school districts re-open in person learning.

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Cases are IRRELEVANT except for calculating IFR. The relevant counts are hospitalizations and deaths. If we had not missed so many infections early then we would likely have around 25 to 40 million cases by now. That graph should be either close to smooth after April 1 or else have a large peak in the middle like hospitalizations and deaths. That is the measure of "impact" meaningful to restrictions on activities. Even at my projected numbers... Covid is still less than the flu. While 35% or more of Covid infections result in NO symptoms and a large percentage of the rest are very mild... the flu always produces symptoms. If we are talking about people being "sick" and not just "infected"... the flu has made A LOT more people sick. It kills younger people and many older people.

If you were not panicking like this every year of your life over the flu... then you shouldn't be panicking over Covid
 
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MWAVolfan said:
At the peak of summer you had over 75K people a day diagnosed with covid. My guess is once schools fully reopen, by October you'll see cases at over 100K per day. That will be your wave.
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NOT TRUE if they all wear masks !!
 
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MWAVolfan said:
Everything will hinge, I think, on the number of new COVID cases generated once the student body is back on campus. If we go into a second wave and they send everyone home then you can forget it.
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Students should go home. Players stay. That is THE safest thing for the players.
 
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MAUSERWERKE said:
My prediction is that we won't get more than one week into the season before it is cancelled. And it won't be outbreaks among football players that will prompt it, but rather outbreaks of the virus among the general student population. This will cause administrators to send students home from campuses. In that scenario, there is no way football can proceed, as the powers that be won't tolerate a situation where its considered too dangerous for students to be on campus, but players are required to be there. JMHO.
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That makes zero sense. If there is an outbreak, the danger is with the students, not the campus itself. Send students home, then the risk is gone.
 
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There is roughly 7.8 billion people in the world. Using the skewed data it says 767817 people have died from the Chinese virus. That means only 0.00984% of the population has died. Just thought you should know.
 
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MWAVolfan said:
Because states began to re-enact stricter enforcement of guidelines. Plus by the end of September schools will be back open. 2-3 weeks after that happens lets see what the numbers look like. You can already see the cases going back up as some souther school districts re-open in person learning.

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Why are “cases” the be-all end-all now? If this thing has a 99.96% survival rate, what’s the big deal?
 
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MWAVolfan said:
At the peak of summer you had over 75K people a day diagnosed with covid. My guess is once schools fully reopen, by October you'll see cases at over 100K per day. That will be your wave.
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People killed in motorcycle accident died of COVID19. People that never got tested received positive results! POLITICAL BS!
 
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sjt18 said:
So you buy into the idea that we quarantine or muzzle the healthy on the EXTREMELY low chance that they are both capable of spreading the virus and incidentally come in "close contact" with a vulnerable person?

It isn't just teenagers that are at low risk. Look at the demographics. Even healthy older people face minimal risks. If you are under 50 and do not have a significant health condition then you chances of dying are nil. But even if you are a healthy person up to around 70 your chances are very good.

The AVERAGE US Covid related fatality is 78 years old and has 2.5 OTHER comorbidities.. So NO, it is NOT "literally everyone else". It is almost exclusively a very defined group of people who are over 70 and/or have SEVERE and usually known health issues.

Just being diabetic and especially if managed... will not cause someone to die of Covid. In fact, that was mentioned as a significant factor early on but current CDC data says only about 14% of Covid fatalities had diabetes. Only 5838 of that 22505 were under 65 years old. Since deaths under 60 are rare that is still a significant factor in younger deaths... however you have to compare that to the total number of Americans who have diabetes. It is a very low ratio.
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The scared ones don't care about facts. You are probably wasting your breath. They would rather see jobs vanish, scholarships be lost, more suicides, ect, then to let go of their fear and get on with life.
 
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