‘20 NC SG Jaden Springer (UT commit 10/23/19)

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Just got to secure and big man and this class will damn near be perfect
 
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golfballs said:
I’m not overly worried at all. I don’t really care if he plays or not. In fact, if he doesn’t I’d say it’s probably a good thing because we have James, springer, Keon and maybe even Jalen taking most of the minutes.
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Gonna need a shoot and catch guy. Walker/Johnson/JJ/Springer all guys that love to drive the basketball. We need a Turner/Bowden that can play without the ball in their hands.
 
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BurninOrange said:
And Meyer flipped his CB from UNC to UT.
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I'd have felt better about the Meyer flip a week ago. Now it just seems like he's going with the flow after UNC was obviously out of it. But, clearly it doesn't hurt that we are nearly the unanimous prediction.
 
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golfballs said:
So about Victor Bailey....
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He took Hayes spot


Crazy to think it ended up coming to this but we did end up having to turn away a big time talent. I tried to tell BTO that he was certainly taking a spot out of the 2020 class and now we see proof
 
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VEKZY said:
I thought Springer was being recruited as a PG? Or at least I thought people were implying that.
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I think they’re recruiting him and telling him there’s opportunity there, but that’s also got to do with limited scholarships...if James was to leave early then he probably gets minutes at PG, but I think ideally they would like him at the 2 if the roster makeup allows it.
 
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BruinVol said:
He took Hayes spot


Crazy to think it ended up coming to this but we did end up having to turn away a big time talent. I tried to tell BTO that he was certainly taking a spot out of the 2020 class and now we see proof
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Lmao, you could just as easily say that the big man is taking Hayes spot.

Looks like we are taking 4 Bruin, may want to re-read our conversation.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Lmao, you could just as easily say that the big man is taking Hayes spot.

Looks like we are taking 4 Bruin, may want to re-read our conversation.
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Lol

Yea Id love to reread it because you clearly said his spot didn’t effect the 2020 class. It clearly does Now

Would we rather have bailey or Hayes on the roster next season?

I can see that either way
 
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Hayes wasn't a guarantee to come here or even be in the 2020 class when Bailey jumped on board. Bailey wanted on board, and was a quality top 100 talent coming out of HS. I think you take the sure thing at the time, which they did. Also accounting for where they stood with Walker, Keon and Jaden at the time. Fast forward to September, Hayes decides to reclassify, and we have locked down Walker, Keon, and looks like Springer is imminent. I just don't see Bailey for Hayes as ever being a one for one option.
 
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BruinVol said:
Lol

Yea Id love to reread it because you clearly said his spot didn’t effect the 2020 class. It clearly does Now

Would we rather have bailey or Hayes on the roster next season?

I can see that either way
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I don't think Hayes comes if Springer comes and also depends on James leaving. Best to look forward to 2021.
 
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BruinVol said:
Lol

Yea Id love to reread it because you clearly said his spot didn’t effect the 2020 class. It clearly does Now

Would we rather have bailey or Hayes on the roster next season?

I can see that either way
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Like I stated at the time, if you wanna say all 13 spots are renewable and so taking anyone costs a spot then sure, but taking bailey isn’t effecting 2020 anymore than taking Plavsic, or Pember, or James, or Gaines etc.
 
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VolGee4 said:
I don't think Hayes comes if Springer comes and also depends on James leaving. Best to look forward to 2021.
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You have to consider roster makeup too, did taking Bailey cost us Ruzhentsev? Or Murrell too? We need frontcourt help, they appear likely to land their Top 3 targets as they’ve hoped to do all along and will now turn their attention towards landing a big.
 
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BruinVol said:
Lol

Yea Id love to reread it because you clearly said his spot didn’t effect the 2020 class. It clearly does Now

Would we rather have bailey or Hayes on the roster next season?

I can see that either way
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Maybe I’m a pessimist but I’d imagine that Hayes looking at Springer Johnson and JJJ in the backcourt is the reason he dropped the Vols, not because Bailey is costing us a roster spot and Barnes said he was out of room
 
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zjcvols said:
Maybe I’m a pessimist but I’d imagine that Hayes looking at Springer Johnson and JJJ in the backcourt is the reason he dropped the Vols, not because Bailey is costing us a roster spot and Barnes said he was out of room
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According to VQ Tennessee cancelled his OV
 
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zjcvols said:
Maybe I’m a pessimist but I’d imagine that Hayes looking at Springer Johnson and JJJ in the backcourt is the reason he dropped the Vols, not because Bailey is costing us a roster spot and Barnes said he was out of room
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So you don’t buy we canceled his visit?

That seems to be the narrative at least that’s what Bto said
 
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BruinVol said:
So you don’t buy we canceled his visit?

That seems to be the narrative at least that’s what Bto said
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I mean, the visit was cancelled. I’d just say the likelihood Hayes was coming here with Springer would be super low. Especially once he reclassified.
 
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zjcvols said:
Fair enough, I’d imagine that Hayes wasn’t going to come here anyways with Springer/Johnson/Walker anyways
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Probably not...sometimes schools recruiting well have to turn away highly ranked guys, I understand that’s not common at Tennessee, but Duke & UK have this problem every year.
 
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zjcvols said:
Maybe I’m a pessimist but I’d imagine that Hayes looking at Springer Johnson and JJJ in the backcourt is the reason he dropped the Vols, not because Bailey is costing us a roster spot and Barnes said he was out of room
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Bailey, as a guard, naturally reduced the number of guards we were taking in the 2020 class. We can't take a class full of guards. We currently have Walker (a point forward) Johnson (a 2/3), and perhaps Springer (a combo guard). Taking another guard, even a true PG as talented as Hayes, isn't good for roster makeup. You have to hope Bailey can develop, and ideally develop into at least a capable backup at the PG position. He seems to have some Lamonte Turner in his game, so that would seem possible with an entire season sitting out to work on it. That puts us at the limit, and we appear willing to oversign by 1 in our pursuit of a quality big man. PJ Hall, perhaps, or Banchero if re-classifies?

The fact that Hayes seemingly admits that Tennessee took a commitment from someone (presumably, Springer), and VQ saying UT cancelled his upcoming OV this weekend would both seem to indicate we did, in fact, tell him we were out of room at the guard position.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Like I stated at the time, if you wanna say all 13 spots are renewable and so taking anyone costs a spot then sure, but taking bailey isn’t effecting 2020 anymore than taking Plavsic, or Pember, or James, or Gaines etc.
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Lol
So yea he’s effecting a spot and directly our ability to go after Hayes


I hope that’s the right call.
Imo I’d rather have Bailey
 
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