‘22 FL SF Dillon Mitchell

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VolFreakJosh said:
Tennessee is a better program than FSU
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Based on what?

Over the last 5 seasons they have made the tourney every year (and sadly their best team was during the Covid year). Never lost in the first round. 2 sweet 16s and 1 elite 8. Multiple NBA lottery picks. They play in a conference considered superior to the SEC.

FSU is a very good program and is easily on par with UT right now, if not slightly ahead.
 
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Vols8086 said:
Based on what?

Over the last 5 seasons they have made the tourney every year (and sadly their best team was during the Covid year). Never lost in the first round. 2 sweet 16s and 1 elite 8. Multiple NBA lottery picks. They play in a conference considered superior to the SEC.

FSU is a very good program and is easily on par with UT right now, if not slightly ahead.
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I tend to agree with you though I believe Tennessee is a more visible/recognizable program, if that is possible. FSU is not a traditionally strong basketball program, despite their recent success. Leonard Hamilton, whom I actually like, has 6 NCAAT appearances in 19 seasons (call it 7 if you want to include Covid). They are buried in the ACC behind several more traditionally strong programs, namely Duke and UNC, and they aren't even the most recognizable program in their own state. I'd venture to guess 1 out of 10 people you ask would realize FSU has been as successful as they have been across the last 5 seasons.
 
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allvolrecruiting said:
I don't think it hurts us considering Jalen Hood-Schifino is going to end up a Vol imo. I mean he was already in Florida, not like he is moving into Florida
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I don't think JHS is going to be a Vol because I think Cason Wallace is going to be a Vol. I don't see a scenario where both commit to the same school, and we likely can't afford to take 2 SGs in the fall. If one waits until spring, it's possible, but I doubt either guy waits.

As for the move to Montverde, it gets him more exposure, potentially more offers, and could cause him to put off his decision timeline. Not sure any of that is a certainty or a huge issue, but as good of shape as we were with him, I think I'd prefer things simply remain status quo.
 
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cncchris33 said:
I don't think JHS is going to be a Vol because I think Cason Wallace is going to be a Vol. I don't see a scenario where both commit to the same school, and we likely can't afford to take 2 SGs in the fall. If one waits until spring, it's possible, but I doubt either guy waits.

As for the move to Montverde, it gets him more exposure, potentially more offers, and could cause him to put off his decision timeline. Not sure any of that is a certainty or a huge issue, but as good of shape as we were with him, I think I'd prefer things simply remain status quo.
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I think we get:
Jalen Hood-Schifino
Cason Wallace
BJ Edwards
Dillon Mitchell
And a Big, rn I would say Ernest Udeh Jr
 
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allvolrecruiting said:
I think we get:
Jalen Hood-Schifino
Cason Wallace
BJ Edwards
Dillon Mitchell
And a Big, rn I would say Ernest Udeh Jr
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Not sure why you think we convince two blue chip SGs to commit when we likely return Powell, Mashack, Diboundje, and potentially return Bailey and Vescovi.

Those last two leave and you have am unexpected transfer put of the first group, then I can see them pursuing two SGs, but you won't know that until the spring. Assuming both commit in the fall, I think it is an either/or between Wallace and JHS. My guess is the staff may slightly prefer Wallace and he seems the most likely to do something the quickest.
 
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cncchris33 said:
Not sure why you think we convince two blue chip SGs to commit when we likely return Powell, Mashack, Diboundje, and potentially return Bailey and Vescovi.

Those last two leave and you have am unexpected transfer put of the first group, then I can see them pursuing two SGs, but you won't know that until the spring. Assuming both commit in the fall, I think it is an either/or between Wallace and JHS. My guess is the staff may slightly prefer Wallace and he seems the most likely to do something the quickest.
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JHS is a PG, Wallace is more of a wing that handles the ball bc he is the best player on his team. When watching him, he is guarding a lot of guys in the post. As much as I love BJ Edwards, JHS and Wallace are takes over him if it comes down to that. I think Fulky, Bailey, Chandler, BHH, and JJJ all leave after this year
 
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allvolrecruiting said:
JHS is a PG, Wallace is more of a wing that handles the ball bc he is the best player on his team. When watching him, he is guarding a lot of guys in the post. As much as I love BJ Edwards, JHS and Wallace are takes over him if it comes down to that. I think Fulky, Bailey, Chandler, BHH, and JJJ all leave after this year
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PG: Jalen Hood-Schifino, BJ Edwards
SG: Cason Wallace, Santiago Vescovi
SG: Justin Powell, Jahmai Mashack
PF: Dillon Mitchell, Olivier Nkamhoua
C: Ernest Udeh Jr, Jonas Aidoo
 
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allvolrecruiting said:
JHS is a PG, Wallace is more of a wing that handles the ball bc he is the best player on his team. When watching him, he is guarding a lot of guys in the post. As much as I love BJ Edwards, JHS and Wallace are takes over him if it comes down to that. I think Fulky, Bailey, Chandler, BHH, and JJJ all leave after this year
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Please tell me you’re joking about BJ Edwards.

He’s criminally underrated.
 
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VolFreakJosh said:
Please tell me you’re joking about BJ Edwards.

He’s criminally underrated.
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He is and that is a statement about how good we are recruiting. JHS and Wallace will both be 5 stars. BJ will be a high 4 star. I think we take all 3 and AP feels the same way
 
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allvolrecruiting said:
JHS is a PG, Wallace is more of a wing that handles the ball bc he is the best player on his team. When watching him, he is guarding a lot of guys in the post. As much as I love BJ Edwards, JHS and Wallace are takes over him if it comes down to that. I think Fulky, Bailey, Chandler, BHH, and JJJ all leave after this year
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No offense, but I couldn't disagree more. At best, JHS is a combo guard, but he isn't a pure PG like Chandler or Edwards. He is almost certain to predominantly play off the ball at the college level. I've not seen him referred to as a "point guard" anywhere. Rivals and 247 both list him as a SG though he handles the ball well enough in transition to see spot minutes at the lead guard position, if needed. I'm not aware of any school, Tennessee included, that is recruiting him as a PG.

With that said, let's assume for a minute that JHS were a PG. The same reason I don't think Tennessee lands Wallace and JHS applies to Edwards and JHS. A guy like JHS isn't coming to Tennessee to compete with another high level player at his position. And Tennessee isn't kicking BJ Edwards to the curb for either Wallace or JHS, either. Edwards is too important in terms of maintaining a trustworthy relationship with the BMaze Elite program as well as with Catholic HS.
 
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allvolrecruiting said:
JHS is a PG, Wallace is more of a wing that handles the ball bc he is the best player on his team. When watching him, he is guarding a lot of guys in the post. As much as I love BJ Edwards, JHS and Wallace are takes over him if it comes down to that. I think Fulky, Bailey, Chandler, BHH, and JJJ all leave after this year
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Tell me you don't know what you're talking about, without telling me you don't know what you're talking about.
 
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allvolrecruiting said:
It is in one of the other basketball forums I am pretty sure, but AP said he thinks we take JHS, Wallace, Edwards, Mitchell. Brandon Miller won't commit somewhere until the spring. Might also take a big, just watched Yohan Troare.
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I’m on VQ, haven’t seen AP say that anywhere.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
I’m on VQ, haven’t seen AP say that anywhere.
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"Now, things could absolutely change by the time November rolls around, but the buzz we’re hearing right now suggests that the Vols are in good shape with Cason Wallace, B.J. Edwards, Dillon Mitchell (who will be on campus next week with Edwards for an official visit), Brandon Miller and they’re definitely in the mix for Jalen Hood-Schifino who visited last week. Some we’ve spoken with think it will come down to Georgetown and Tennessee for Hood-Schifino."

-From VQ not AP, my bad
 
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Not to state the obvious, but being in “good shape” with this group doesn’t imply we’ll sign most, and certainly not all of this group. Additionally, these two players have too many great options to compete for minutes at the same school. I don’t believe that guards can necessarily be reduced to shoot/combo/point in 2021, but there is no denying that JHS and Wallace have big overlaps in existing skill set, and development path. Highly unlikely that either/both of them are going to get counsel that leads to them signing at the same school.
 
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allvolrecruiting said:
"Now, things could absolutely change by the time November rolls around, but the buzz we’re hearing right now suggests that the Vols are in good shape with Cason Wallace, B.J. Edwards, Dillon Mitchell (who will be on campus next week with Edwards for an official visit), Brandon Miller and they’re definitely in the mix for Jalen Hood-Schifino who visited last week. Some we’ve spoken with think it will come down to Georgetown and Tennessee for Hood-Schifino."

-From VQ not AP, my bad
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Think you're having to read pretty hard into that to see a 'they will take all 5'. I've seen them say statements to taking all of so and so before, but don't believe it was about these guys.
 
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Ryno14 said:
Think you're having to read pretty hard into that to see a 'they will take all 5'. I've seen them say statements to taking all of so and so before, but don't believe it was about these guys.
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I think he said we would take 4 plus maybe a big and had just watched Traore in there too
 
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allvolrecruiting said:
Cason Wallace: #19 in 247
Jalen Hood-Schifino: #27 in 247
BJ Edwards: #68 in 247
🤔
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Man, it just isn't all about these subjective rankings. You are coming across as a stargazer at this point if you believe 40 spots in the rankings is the end-all, be-all in determining player preference. There is so much more to consider; relationships, proximity, fit, position, etc.
 
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