‘It’s open season on the president’: Anonymous op-ed unleashes fresh West Wing meltdown

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OHvol40 said:
They did prove the case and did subsequently impeach the president.
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Your previous post indicated that you felt the impeachment was a kangaroo court, and it specifically stated that they couldn't prove their case. Do you want a reset on this?

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Sure. Can’t prove a case in a kangaroo court.
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37L1 said:
Because they couldn't prove their case, they couldn't convict.
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Yep, again, awfully tough to prove a case when you call witnesses but they are denied. Then it’s just two sides pointing fingers with no substance.
 
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OHvol40 said:
Yep, again, awfully tough to prove a case when you call witnesses but they are denied. Then it’s just two sides pointing fingers with no substance.
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The whole thing was no substance but just more of #resist. It was pitiful when the result was already a foregone conclusion just like the Barrett nomination.

Oh, so much drama/outrage and waste of time while other things went begging.

But the show must go on.
 
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This has to be a straight up embarrassment for the NYT. They tried to play this like he was privy to the inner workings of the White House. Not the case lol

A Chief of Staff at that level is considered a protégé. One who might turn out to be an Assistant or Deputy in time, but at 30 years of is nothing more than a coffee boy with no real power. It's not like he's giving the Assistant Secretaries orders. They'd just chuckle and pat him on the head before doing whatever they wanted.

I have this feeling the NYT probably didn't want him going public. But he pulled the political Leroy Jenkins trying to show off the big S on his chest. Only to be laughed at and ridiculed by far more senior officials and unbiased media.
 
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Grand Vol said:
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I have this feeling the NYT probably didn't want him going public. But he pulled the political Leroy Jenkins trying to show off the big S on his chest. Only to be laughed at and ridiculed by far more senior officials and unbiased media.
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the miles kid is still loothser's hero so he has that going for him.
 
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37L1 said:
Because they couldn't prove their case, they couldn't convict.
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After Senate Republicans announced that they wouldn't allow any new witnesses to be called during the Senate trial, Sen. Lamar Alexander (R-TN) released a public statement which was posted to Twitter. This statement acknowledged that the House managers had proven their case. Therefore, new witnesses were unnecessary. Sen. Alexander's statement also acknowledged that President Trump had withheld aid to the Ukraine, at least in part, to "encourage" an investigation into a political opponent. Sen. Alexander described this conduct by President Trump as "inappropriate".

At issue, was whether or not this inappropriate conduct justified the impeachment and removal from office of a sitting president. Obviously, Senate Republicans concluded that it didn't, but to be clear: Per Senator Lamar Alexander's own words, Democrats did prove their case.
 
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Grand Vol said:
This has to be a straight up embarrassment for the NYT. They tried to play this like he was privy to the inner workings of the White House. Not the case lol

A Chief of Staff at that level is considered a protégé. One who might turn out to be an Assistant or Deputy in time, but at 30 years of is nothing more than a coffee boy with no real power. It's not like he's giving the Assistant Secretaries orders. They'd just chuckle and pat him on the head before doing whatever they wanted.

I have this feeling the NYT probably didn't want him going public. But he pulled the political Leroy Jenkins trying to show off the big S on his chest. Only to be laughed at and ridiculed by far more senior officials and unbiased media.
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Just more proof for the people that say the MSM has lost its integrity and is openly picking favorites.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
After Senate Republicans announced that they wouldn't allow any new witnesses to be called during the Senate trial, Sen. Lamar Alexander (R-TN) released a public statement which was posted to Twitter. This statement acknowledged that the House managers had proven their case. Therefore, new witnesses were unnecessary. Sen. Alexander's statement also acknowledged that President Trump had withheld aid to the Ukraine, at least in part, to "encourage" an investigation into a political opponent. Sen. Alexander described this conduct by President Trump as "inappropriate".

At issue, was whether or not this inappropriate conduct justified the impeachment and removal from office of a sitting president. Obviously, Senate Republicans concluded that it didn't, but to be clear: Per Senator Lamar Alexander's own words, Democrats did prove their case.
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Remind me how Alexander voted?
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Remind me how Alexander voted?
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I just explained that. Sen. Lamar Alexander did vote to acquit, but it wasn't because Democrats didn't prove their case. He acknowledged that they did prove their case, and he also acknowledged that Trump's conduct was inappropriate. He just didn't believe that Trump's conduct rose to the level of justifying his removal from office. The post I had quoted, claimed that Democrats did not prove their case. In the words of a Senate Republican, that is not true.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I just explained that. Sen. Lamar Alexander did vote to acquit, but it wasn't because Democrats didn't prove their case. He acknowledged that they did prove their case, and he also acknowledged that Trump's conduct was inappropriate. He just didn't believe that Trump's conduct rose to the level of justifying his removal from office. The post I had quoted, claimed that Democrats did not prove their case. In the words of a Senate Republican, that is not true.
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Your explanation was blathering idiocy. If they “proved their case” then he should have voted to remove. Since he didn’t vote to remove clearly they didn’t prove their case in terms of removal.

You know if I didn’t know better I’d think you were just partisan twisting to get a sound byte you want and ignoring the actual results. But you wouldn’t do that, would you.

Alexander voted no on both counts. Thus clearly the Democrats did not “prove their case” and any other statement otherwise is merely partisan parsing minutia.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Your explanation was blathering idiocy. If they “proved their case” then he should have voted to remove. Since he didn’t vote to remove clearly they didn’t prove their case in terms of removal.

You know if I didn’t know better I’d think you were just partisan twisting to get a sound byte you want and ignoring the actual results. But you wouldn’t do that, would you.

Alexander voted no on both counts. Thus clearly the Democrats did not “prove their case” and any other statement otherwise is merely partisan parsing minutia.
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The idiocy is coming from you. Sen. Lamar Alexander's statement explained, as I just did, that the Democratic Party House managers DID prove their case "with a mountain of evidence". Sen. Alexander also clearly stated that Trump's conduct was inappropriate. Sen. Alexander just didn't believe that it rose to the level of being an impeachable offense, or in turn, justified removal from office. I'm not putting any words in Sen. Alexander's mouth here...

This was all posted to Twitter during the Senate trial in January, moron.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
The idiocy is coming from you. Sen. Lamar Alexander's statement explained, as I just did, that the Democratic Party House managers DID prove their case "with a mountain of evidence". Sen. Alexander also clearly stated that Trump's conduct was inappropriate. Sen. Alexander just didn't believe that it rose to the level of being an impeachable offense, or in turn, justified removal from office. I'm not putting any words in Sen. Alexander's mouth here...

This was all posted to Twitter during the Senate trial in January, moron.
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So, what was their case then?

Your argument undercuts itself. You're basically arguing that he said they presented a mountain of evidence that proved that he shouldn't be impeached. And here's the kick to the gonads.
































They still impeached him. The testimony you're relying on is saying that they didn't prove a case for impeachment, and yet they impeached him. Ouch.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
The idiocy is coming from you. Sen. Lamar Alexander's statement explained, as I just did, that the Democratic Party House managers DID prove their case "with a mountain of evidence". Sen. Alexander also clearly stated that Trump's conduct was inappropriate. Sen. Alexander just didn't believe that it rose to the level of being an impeachable offense, or in turn, justified removal from office. I'm not putting any words in Sen. Alexander's mouth here...

This was all posted to Twitter during the Senate trial in January, moron.
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Alexander’s tortured rationalization on why he didn’t want/need to hear any witnesses is irrelevant. Either Trump acted outside the tenants of his office in which case Alexander should vote to remove or he didn’t which Alexander should vote no not the remove.

He voted no on both counts. Thus the Democrats did not prove their case.

And yet you’re still parsing this logically tortured statement he made as if it has any real meaning almost a year later. Frigging hilarious but it’s what you ALWAYS do 😂
 
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