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People need to just
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Vol'er15 said:
Your post is factual and I appreciate that, but just look at their schedule this year and those opponents week one outcomes:

09.07 @ Virginia Tech
09.12 vs Hawaii - Beat Colorado 28-20
09.19 vs Northern Illinois - Beat UNLV 38-30
09.26 vs Western Michigan - Lost to Michigan State 24-37
10.03 @ Indiana - Beat Southern Illinois 48-47
10.10 vs Maryland - Beat Richmond 50-21
10.17 vs Penn State - Lost to Temple 10-27
10.24 @ Rutgers - Beat Norfolk State 63-13
11.07 vs Minnesota - Lost to TCU 17-23
11.14 @ Illinois - Beat Kent State 52-3
11.21 vs Michigan State - Beat Western Michigan 37-24
11.28 @ Michigan - Lost to Utah 17-24

I just don't see how you could possibly argue this is anything other than a very weak schedule. I have no doubt OSU will be in the playoffs again this year.
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I agree, the schedule is pretty advantageous this year. That post was mainly arguing the idea that they didn't face any decent competition last year (which they did, both OOC and in conference on the road). The assertion that they only won the championship because the other teams were too beaten up doesn't hold any water.

If FSU snuck in after struggling with their lightweight schedule, there's no way an undefeated OSU is left out. A one loss OSU could as well unless Michigan State is ahead of them.
 
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UTCVol said:
I agree, the schedule is pretty advantageous this year. That post was mainly arguing the idea that they didn't face any decent competition last year (which they did, both OOC and in conference on the road). The assertion that they only won the championship because the other teams were too beaten up doesn't hold any water.

If FSU snuck in after struggling with their lightweight schedule, there's no way an undefeated OSU is left out. A one loss OSU could as well unless Michigan State is ahead of them.
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I totally agree if they are undefeated. Where I disagree is if they lose one.

Obviously it depends on how the season shakes out and how their opponents end up doing, so it's speculation at this point, but here is my reasoning:

If they lose one this year it will almost certainly be late in the season to Minnesota, Mich St., Michigan (unpredictable rivalry, I still think they win this game don't get me wrong), or the B1G championship.

1. If they lose to Minnesota, and TCU goes undefeated, then TCU has to go above OSU by way of beating Minnesota.

2. If they lose to Mich St. or Michigan, but still win the title, they have a very lackluster schedule with a loss very late in the year to one of the few good teams they play. (And neither Mich St nor Michigan actually looked very good in week 1, but who knows it is very early)

3. If they lose the B1G championship there is no way they will get in.

Option 1 (especially if TCU doesn't run the table) and 2 does leave them with a little room to sneak in, but it would be hard for me, personally, to justify if OSU loses a game with their schedule getting in over an undefeated or one loss team from any other conference or Notre Dame.

Sorry for length, good talking to you man.

EDIT: BTW I do agree with you on your point about last years Buckeyes. Even if people won't accept your stat that their schedule was worthy, they proved they belonged there on the field, and I had no problem with their selection last year.
 
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Volunteer_Kirby said:
Pretty sure Von Bell isn't regretting his decision with a national championship ring on his finger right now
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That was more important to him than being a part of his in-state school's resurgence, so you are right. He said so at the time. I'm also pretty sure Jalen Hurd doesn't regret his decision either and he could have won a national championship last year as well.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
That was more important to him than being a part of his in-state school's resurgence, so you are right. He said so at the time. I'm also pretty sure Jalen Hurd doesn't regret his decision either and he could have won a national championship last year as well.
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If we go 4 years without a championship, I wouldn't bet the house on that assessment. He might not say it, but it's something that will cross his mind...especially if last year was just the first of multiple rings OSU wins in that 4-year span
 
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VolGee4 said:
My goodness. That's not what this thread is about. Carl Lawson was a DE from out of state. Bell and Ramsey were in-state DB's, and our team needs a safety and a shutdown corner much more than it needs a DE. This went much further than I expected.
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Todd Kelly's a safety...Cam Sutton is a shutdown corner...they chose UT. :victory:
 
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"Great players who spurned their state school and sport NC rings and the message board posters who lost their kidneys", on the next Geraldo. :matrix:
 
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Well Tech made it interesting for a half. OSU is just too talented and too deep.... and too scary.
 
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crusse10 said:
If we go 4 years without a championship, I wouldn't bet the house on that assessment. He might not say it, but it's something that will cross his mind...especially if last year was just the first of multiple rings OSU wins in that 4-year span
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There is no way Jalen Hurd signed with Tennessee with any expectation that we would win the national championship while he was here. He is a smart kid.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
There is no way Jalen Hurd signed with Tennessee with any expectation that we would win the national championship while he was here. He is a smart kid.
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But if he leaves and sees that a school he could have attended won 2, the possibility of having 2 national championships will cross his mind. It's naive to think otherwise.
 
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