1 second left and you don't offer any defense?

[glv98]

What it all comes down to is the stress of the moment basically paralyzing 2-3 players who took "watch the lob" and "don't foul" WAY too literally and didn't recognize the situation. Awful part is that 95 times out of 100, we get away it and nobody cares.

Agree to disagree. Everyone knew the situation. It all came down to the decision to place Rickea (and you can clearly see KJH placing her) neither on the inbounds nor KC. Because of that odd positioning, both the pass and the shot were uncontested.

What you said is what KJH made it sound like in the presser, but the players were exactly where she placed them.

 

[GAVol]

Agree to disagree. Everyone knew the situation. It all came down to the decision to place Rickea (and you can clearly see KJH placing her) neither on the inbounds nor KC. Because of that odd positioning, both the pass and the shot were uncontested.

What you said is what KJH made it sound like in the presser, but the players were exactly where she placed them.

Agree about Rickea being moved off the ball to deny the inbound to the wing. Rickea was actually only a few feet from the 3 point line by the time the ball got triggered in. I don't think she could've done much, but she literally stepped AWAY from the shooter. Meanwhile, the posts are standing at the restricted circle with their feet in cement watching. Just crazy that none of 3 players reacted but you'd hope that one of the posts would slide at least toward the foul line once they recognized there wasn't a lob coming.

Again . . . just a crazy breakdown that you get away with most of the time in that situation. I don't think you can really blame anybody. They just threw up a prayer and got lucky.

 

[Orange Maniac]

I stood and watched the play unfold before my very eyes and looked like it was in slow motion. I agree with the defensive strategy employed except Jackson should have been face guarding Cardoso. If the entry pass was still made to Cardoso, then it would have had to have been higher or longer to get over Jackson. Cardoso would have been in a more awkward position if she caught the pass, to get a shot off accurately and/or in time. We had the game won and that one mistake of not having Jackson on Cardoso cost us the game. Kellie should apologize to the girls after that call. She blew it and she knew it. You can see it on her face. That is one of the highest of highs to the lowest of lows I've experienced in 1.1 seconds.

 

[glv98]

We had the game won and that one mistake of not having Jackson on Cardoso cost us the game. Kellie should apologize to the girls after that call.

Well that and the free throws . . .

But I agree, RIckea has to either be all over the pass or guarding KC enough to not foul but make the shot challenged. And yes both should/have could have reacted after the catch, but all that would have done is make it look better. The major malfunction was the positioning by Kellie of Rickea.

 

[Majors]

The coaches didn’t think that Cardosa would even try to shoot from the three point line and that’s the bottom line. They were more concerned with a lob pass but in reality we should’ve did everything to make sure no one shot a 3 pt bc we would loose the game. Kellie failed them worried ab 2 pts then worrying ab anyone shooting a 3pt. SC has been playing with Fire lately. We shouldn’t have been close to winning that game at all. So I’ll take the positive, we can compete if the offense is ran between Rickea, TK and Jewel.

Cardoso caught it inside the 3, decided to call game instead of tie.

 

[djtee]

Nice post,,,come around anytime

100% correct that last play is on Jackson, Raven was not getting the ball back so why did she go to cover Raven we will never know. It funny how so many on this forum are scared to call out Jackson for her failure on that play the best player or not. It is what it is!

 

[glv98]

100% correct that last play is on Jackson, Raven was not getting the ball back so why did she go to cover Raven we will never know. It funny how so many on this forum are scared to call out Jackson for her failure on that play the best player or not. It is what it is!

Read above or better, watch the video. Rickea was 100% where Kellie put her. Kellie spent the whole time of the changeover before the inbound carefully positioning RIckea where she could guard neither the inbound nor Kamilla. This was absolutely not on RIckea and I hope eventually Kellie owns up. On the video, Rickea's first instinct is to guard KC but Kellie waved her away and into no man's land.

Kellie did the same thing on the previous inbound; had Rickea in the vicinity of the inbound but not guarding anyone. Apparently it's her go to strategy though I don't know why. But it's clear fm the video Rickea is doing exactly what Kellie told her to, however inexplicable.

 

[Orange Maniac]

100% correct that last play is on Jackson, Raven was not getting the ball back so why did she go to cover Raven we will never know. It funny how so many on this forum are scared to call out Jackson for her failure on that play the best player or not. It is what it is!

WRONG!

 

[GAVol]

100% correct that last play is on Jackson, Raven was not getting the ball back so why did she go to cover Raven we will never know. It funny how so many on this forum are scared to call out Jackson for her failure on that play the best player or not. It is what it is!

I guess that's where she was going - to guard an extra pass that couldn't possibly happen with 1.1 on the clock, but she was where they told her to be. Just didn't react well. But I don't see how you can really blame her for a pass almost to the backside. It was just an overall failure to recognize the situation. Yes, a lob was possible, but protecting the rim is always secondary to recognizing where the shooters are. The only explanation is that the shooter stepped out when they expected here to cut.

 

[glv98]

I guess that's where she was going - to guard an extra pass that couldn't possibly happen with 1.1 on the clock, but she was where they told her to be. Just didn't react well. It was just an overall failure to recognize the situation. Yes, a lob was possible, but protecting the rim is always secondary to recognizing where the shooters are. The only explanation is that the shooter stepped out when they expected here to cut.

IMO,the odd, worthless placement of Rickea was much worse than her failure to react from that no man's land. She had no chance to get either to the inbound pass or KC, though a step toward KC by either RJ or TK would have looked better. This is NOT on the players, except the poor kid who missed the fts.

 

[djtee]

Read above or better, watch the video. Rickea was 100% where Kellie put her. Kellie spent the whole time of the changeover before the inbound carefully positioning RIckea where she could guard neither the inbound nor Kamilla. This was absolutely not on RIckea and I hope eventually Kellie owns up. On the video, Rickea's first instinct is to guard KC but Kellie waved her away and into no man's land.

Kellie did the same thing on the previous inbound; had Rickea in the vicinity of the inbound but not guarding anyone. Apparently it's her go to strategy though I don't know why. But it's clear fm the video Rickea is doing exactly what Kellie told her to, however inexplicable.

I can't disagree with you because you are one of the better poster who call it like you see. I will look at the video again i know Jackson moved to guard Raven.

 

[Dadof2Vols]

Once the ball was in Kamilla's hands, it could only be catch and shoot. Both TK and RJ should have at least started in that direction, hands waving etc. Probably wouldn't have mattered since the shot was pure dumb luck. But sadly perception is reality and the fact that neither reacted at all has become an extremely unfortunate viral video that is being used to just pummel those players and poor Kellie. Whose fault it wasn't.

See the extremely cruel drive by post above about Rickea as evidence.

Didn’t she catch and make half step back for the 3? So little more than catch and heave. Someone should have been marking her.

 

[Butch s]

The whole thing is just embarrassing

 

[Coach Jumper]

100% correct that last play is on Jackson, Raven was not getting the ball back so why did she go to cover Raven we will never know. It funny how so many on this forum are scared to call out Jackson for her failure on that play the best player or not. It is what it is!

Jackson was exactly whewre Kellie put her,,,she did not direct jackson "at the throwin"...Coach put her precisely where she was...Can't blame RJ for following orders

 

[Coach Jumper]

The whole thing is just embarrassing

yes it is if you look only at that sequence!.

We were 23 points down early on and against a team fighting to stay undefeated
And about whipped their butts,

We go into the NCAA with respect right now,,,we almost slayed their and our,,,,, "giant"
I don't think any team is looking forward to playing a team like we showed this past game.

The Key (no pun) is playing at this consistent level every game...and the coaches learning from this,...{{ take a time out,,talk out your options with your assistants, then set THAT particular game plan }}

 

[glv98]

.and the coaches learning from this,...{{ take a time out,,talk out your options with your assistants, then set THAT particular game plan

Hope the coaches learn to scrap that out of bounds defensive play.

Have you ever used or encountered that set up? Where you don't pressure the inbound pass but also don't guard a man? Just kind of float in between?

 

[Cb153181]

Hope the coaches learn to scrap that out of bounds defensive play.

Have you ever used or encountered that set up? Where you don't pressure the inbound pass but also don't guard a man? Just kind of float in between?

All of our end of quarters and tight end of games decisions have killed us. I think the first game went the same way. The ND ending terrible.

 

[Coach Jumper]

Hope the coaches learn to scrap that out of bounds defensive play.

Have you ever used or encountered that set up? Where you don't pressure the inbound pass but also don't guard a man? Just kind of float in between?

If I can make an educated guess,,,I think she put Kea there to protect a ....
" throw in and have receiver pass it back to inbounder for a shot"
But that play done perfectly take better than 1.5 seconds minimum

 

[glv98]

If I can make an educated guess,,,I think she put Kea there to protect a ....
" throw in and have receiver pass it back to inbounder for a shot"
But that play done perfectly take better than 1.5 seconds minimum

Surely not. Everyone in America knew w 1.1 it's catch and shoot only. I believe the announcers were saying it, and I promise you everyone sitting around me at the game was saying it. That would be worse than worse than I thought.

 

[Coach Jumper]

Surely not. Everyone in America knew w 1.1 it's catch and shoot only. I believe the announcers were saying it, and I promise you everyone sitting around me at the game was saying it. That would be worse than worse than I thought.

based on where Rickea was,,,what else could it be

 

[glv98]

I can't disagree with you because you are one of the better poster who call it like you see. I will look at the video again i know Jackson moved to guard Raven.

You're nice to say that. I'm going to try to find a video clip that shows them setting up while waiting on the inbound after the foul.

 

[glv98]

based on where Rickea was,,,what else could it be

LOL I don't freaking know and can't imagine, that's what's driving me crazy! Maybe she was supposed to jump for the pass and then try to get over to the shooter? Rickea's an elite athlete but even for her in 1.1 seconds that's nuts.

Like you said from the start, you have to choose one, the inbounds or the player and get all the way on it. Loitering in the middle, esp with the best athlete on your team, not committing to one or the other, just no. But that is precisely where RJ was positioned both inbound plays.

 

[carolinaviking]

The fact that nobody was guarding the inbounds pass meant we had one extra player on the floor than SC did, so we even could have double-teamed one of their players. That makes this even more pathetic.

 

[glv98]

The fact that nobody was guarding the inbounds pass meant we had one extra player on the floor than SC did, so we even could have double-teamed one of their players. That makes rhis even more pathetic.

Key was guarding the rim against a lob, but we could have gone 4 on 4.

 

[VOLtaism]

I've never seen anything like that in basketball. Final play and they get a huge lob pass to the 3 point line uncontested? Any one of the Ut players could have rushed over and contested the catch but they all just stood like statues. You must protect the tipped ball but that was nuts!