'10 GA QB Hutson Mason

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Lord Vader said:
Iowa called and re-offered him when FSU and UGA did...

Our staff has remained in contact with him and has tried to get him to come on another unofficial. But for the most part, they have passed on him...
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No, they did not. They called and offered him a greyshirt. Huge difference. It's a face saving move on the part of Iowa.

A quote straight from Simms from two days ago:

Tennessee has not shown any interest in me.
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Here it is, LV. Seems that the coaches were there visiting another prospect.

"It was kind of bizarre because right before Coach Richt called Iowa was at the school. Everyone knows they were the ones who pulled my scholarship, but they came by and were really nice about it and apologized. They tried to offer me a greyshirt, but that is a whole different story," admitted Mason.
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Do you think the sudden interest in Mason has anything at all to do with his reality show? Now he's not just an unknown, he's a name that many recruits know from that show. I think that has a lot to do with the sudden interest.
 
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lol at Iowa trying to get back in the mix...

I know for a fact that Thompson called him and tried to get him to come to the USCjr. game...
 
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Lord Vader said:
lol at Iowa trying to get back in the mix...

I know for a fact that Thompson called him and tried to get him to come to the USCjr. game...
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Wouldn't surprise me a bit. I read that somewhere too. That doesn't necessarily constitute an offer though, you know that as well as I.
 
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Just the fact that Georgia and Florida State offered him, honestly doesn't mean much. It's really great for Hutson to get the recognition of the offers, but are they really committable??
 
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I don't see why Richt would personally offer him if it wasn't commitable but who knows what in the world is going on at UGA these days. Seems like the FSU offer would definitely be commitable since all they have is Clint Trickett lol...
 
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Lord Vader said:
I don't see why Richt would personally offer him if it wasn't commitable but who knows what in the world is going on at UGA these days. Seems like the FSU offer would definitely be commitable since all they have is Clint Trickett lol...
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I agree. If Richt told him he had an offer, he's got an offer. Too late in the game to throw it out there if not true. I would jump on it quickly if I were Hutson though. That window may close quickly if they can get some of the guys they are in the running for.
 
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Sabanocchio said:
I agree. If Richt told him he had an offer, he's got an offer. Too late in the game to throw it out there if not true. I would jump on it quickly if I were Hutson though. That window may close quickly if they can get some of the guys they are in the running for.
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I think we're still trying to get a QB. One of our QBs is being switched to WR.
 
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I just watched this youtube clip of Tyler Bray and found it quiet interesting. Seems Tyler throws a lot of "dink and dunk" passes where his receivers make a lot of yards after the catch thereby inflating Tylers numbers and making him appear better than he is. Also it appears that his arm strength isn't exceptional, in fact, some might even call it a "noodle arm".

Of course, anyone who's been following this Hutson Mason thread quickly recognizes that these remarks were made about Hutson by a few arm chair talent scouts on this board as reasons why Hutson could never make it at Tennessee or any other SEC school for that matter. I guess if you believe these "experts" then Tennessee is in a world of hurt with Tyler since his skills appear very comparable to Hutsons. Me? ... I think Tyler will be a fine QB at Tennessee as will Hutson where ever he ends up.

Tyler youtube:
YouTube - Tennessee-recruit Tyler Bray Picks Apart Taft for the Valley Championship

Hutson youtube:
YouTube - Hutson Mason 4
 
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teeball said:
I just watched this youtube clip of Tyler Bray and found it quiet interesting. Seems Tyler throws a lot of "dink and dunk" passes where his receivers make a lot of yards after the catch thereby inflating Tylers numbers and making him appear better than he is. Also it appears that his arm strength isn't exceptional, in fact, some might even call it a "noodle arm".

Of course, anyone who's been following this Hutson Mason thread quickly recognizes that these remarks were made about Hutson by a few arm chair talent scouts on this board as reasons why Hutson could never make it at Tennessee or any other SEC school for that matter. I guess if you believe these "experts" then Tennessee is in a world of hurt with Tyler since his skills appear very comparable to Hutsons. Me? ... I think Tyler will be a fine QB at Tennessee as will Hutson where ever he ends up.

Tyler youtube:
YouTube - Tennessee-recruit Tyler Bray Picks Apart Taft for the Valley Championship

Hutson youtube:
YouTube - Hutson Mason 4
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Wow. You are seriously comparing Bray's arm to Hutson Masons'?? You should have followed your own advice and "maybe next time...keep your trap shut."

Only guy in this class that compares with Bray in terms of arm strength is Chase Rettig. A case could be made for Blake Bell, but I think Tyler's arm will get stronger once he is in a legit S&C program while Bell's arm is more developed.
 
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#489
Watch Bray's video and pay attention to his release. How effortless it looks and how quick he gets rid of it -- then watch Hutsons'. He pushes the ball. The reason why is that he doesn't trust his arm.

It's not always about how far you can chuck it. It's also about how far you can throw it accurately. Bray's throwing motion lends for more accurate throws in addition to his ability to put more air under the ball.
 
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teeball said:
I just watched this youtube clip of Tyler Bray and found it quiet interesting. Seems Tyler throws a lot of "dink and dunk" passes where his receivers make a lot of yards after the catch thereby inflating Tylers numbers and making him appear better than he is. Also it appears that his arm strength isn't exceptional, in fact, some might even call it a "noodle arm".
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Negative...watch his videos on ESPN. Kid has a freakin gun...no two ways about it. The USC camp video at Rivals also shows how big of an arm he has. Don't know that I've seen anyone in this class with more velocity and accuracy. After watching that video, it seemed very apparent to me that he's been coached to "take some off the ball" at times...and at other times he puts some heavy mustard on his his passes. You can see him throw a dart on a rollout...that shows what kind of gun he has.

If you remember Rivals review of Chase Rettig this summer, they knocked on his inability to know when to take some mustard off his passes. Also, you say he was dinking and dunking...most of those throws were 15+yds in length. Sounds like you have some sort of axe to grind....in favor of Mason.
 
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Ms Teeball,
I know how much Hutson wants to get an offer from Tennessee. I know that as a family member, it is hard for you to watch the recruiting saga unfold in a way that is not what you guys want.
This effort by you to sway the VN, which as you say, know nothing about evaluating talent, is kind of sad.

Once again, good luck to Hutson and your family in his search for the right fit for him.
 
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Mason may be a good college QB one day but his arm is not in the same league as Bray's. Arm strength isn't everything but it is one thing that can't be taught.
 
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T-TownVol said:
Ms Teeball,
I know how much Hutson wants to get an offer from Tennessee. I know that as a family member, it is hard for you to watch the recruiting saga unfold in a way that is not what you guys want.
This effort by you to sway the VN, which as you say, know nothing about evaluating talent, is kind of sad.

Once again, good luck to Hutson and your family in his search for the right fit for him.
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Sorry ... you missed AGAIN ... Ms T-Town.

The point of my post was to show that folks like you have absolutely NO CLUE about how to evaluate high school football talent. I, unfortunately have little patience with these "experts" dumping on these high shools kids with adjectives like "noodle arm", "not good enough", etc. So I do take joy in pointing out the idiocy of their assessments.

Believe it or not I am not a relative of Hutson, nor do I know any member of his family, nor do I know a single friend of his but I do know that I've enjoyed watching the kid perform for two years and believe that his does have a future at the D1A level.

Finally, this whole Hutson bashing episode is almost identical to the Skyler McBee saga. It might be rather educational for many of you folks to re-read those threads from earlier this year. It seems lots of so called experts said Tennessee should not waste a second on this kid because he played for a rural, low level high school and could never compete in the SEC ... that he would "ride the pines" for four years ... etc ... etc ... etc ...

Any of this sound familar Ms T-Town?
 
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teeball said:
The point of my post was to show that folks like you have absolutely NO CLUE about how to evaluate high school football talent. I, unfortunately have little patience with these "experts" dumping on these high shools kids with adjectives like "noodle arm", "not good enough", etc. So I do take joy in pointing out the idiocy of their assessments.
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Two wrongs do not make a right. You are just as guilty as the Mason bashers for bashing Tyler Bray.

I've got an idea, why don't we let our UT coaches evaluate QB talent and offer Mason. Or not. OK? :hi:
 
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teeball said:
Sorry ... you missed AGAIN ... Ms T-Town.

The point of my post was to show that folks like you have absolutely NO CLUE about how to evaluate high school football talent. I, unfortunately have little patience with these "experts" dumping on these high shools kids with adjectives like "noodle arm", "not good enough", etc. So I do take joy in pointing out the idiocy of their assessments.

Believe it or not I am not a relative of Hutson, nor do I know any member of his family, nor do I know a single friend of his but I do know that I've enjoyed watching the kid perform for two years and believe that his does have a future at the D1A level.

Finally, this whole Hutson bashing episode is almost identical to the Skyler McBee saga. It might be rather educational for many of you folks to re-read those threads from earlier this year. It seems lots of so called experts said Tennessee should not waste a second on this kid because he played for a rural, low level high school and could never compete in the SEC ... that he would "ride the pines" for four years ... etc ... etc ... etc ...

Any of this sound familar Ms T-Town?
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That's everyone on this board, including myself. We are fans talking about our opinions and that's it. If someone on here ACTUALLY knows how to evaluate talent, they would be working for a school doing that very thing. Sorry to disappoint.
 
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teeball said:
Sorry ... you missed AGAIN ... Ms T-Town.

The point of my post was to show that folks like you have absolutely NO CLUE about how to evaluate high school football talent. I, unfortunately have little patience with these "experts" dumping on these high shools kids with adjectives like "noodle arm", "not good enough", etc. So I do take joy in pointing out the idiocy of their assessments.

Believe it or not I am not a relative of Hutson, nor do I know any member of his family, nor do I know a single friend of his but I do know that I've enjoyed watching the kid perform for two years and believe that his does have a future at the D1A level.

Finally, this whole Hutson bashing episode is almost identical to the Skyler McBee saga. It might be rather educational for many of you folks to re-read those threads from earlier this year. It seems lots of so called experts said Tennessee should not waste a second on this kid because he played for a rural, low level high school and could never compete in the SEC ... that he would "ride the pines" for four years ... etc ... etc ... etc ...

Any of this sound familar Ms T-Town?
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To be clear I think Mason is a very good QB. I was talking about watching Bray sling the ball around in his camp video vs what I have seen from Mason. If the staff offers him I will defer to their judgement.
 
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teeball said:
Finally, this whole Hutson bashing episode is almost identical to the Skyler McBee saga. It might be rather educational for many of you folks to re-read those threads from earlier this year. It seems lots of so called experts said Tennessee should not waste a second on this kid because he played for a rural, low level high school and could never compete in the SEC ... that he would "ride the pines" for four years ... etc ... etc ... etc ...
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McBee has yet to prove that he can compete against elite competition. Bad comparison.
 
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teeball said:
Sorry ... you missed AGAIN ... Ms T-Town.

The point of my post was to show that folks like you have absolutely NO CLUE about how to evaluate high school football talent. I, unfortunately have little patience with these "experts" dumping on these high shools kids with adjectives like "noodle arm", "not good enough", etc. So I do take joy in pointing out the idiocy of their assessments.

Believe it or not I am not a relative of Hutson, nor do I know any member of his family, nor do I know a single friend of his but I do know that I've enjoyed watching the kid perform for two years and believe that his does have a future at the D1A level.

Finally, this whole Hutson bashing episode is almost identical to the Skyler McBee saga. It might be rather educational for many of you folks to re-read those threads from earlier this year. It seems lots of so called experts said Tennessee should not waste a second on this kid because he played for a rural, low level high school and could never compete in the SEC ... that he would "ride the pines" for four years ... etc ... etc ... etc ...

Any of this sound familar Ms T-Town?
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Thanks, that was very entertaining.

PS - I call you "MS" because of your avatar. I do not mean any disrespect if that is not you.
 
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