104 in latest realtimerpi.com

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GAVol said:
As a player. As far as his coaching career goes, I think you're probably right. It was like "oh, I remember that name. Didn't know he was coaching."
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Exactly. I just find it hard to classify a guy with three years mid-major experience who has never been to the dance as anything but an unknown.
 
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volbeast33 said:
He has shown a lot of potential but we may be overstating how good he has been. He had 2 pts, 3 assists and 2 reb in 24 minutes of play against nc state.....granted he looks like an absolute stud next to Barton who had a stat line I had never seen before.... He had zero positive stats in over 20 minutes of action....he had zero points, rebounds, steals, and assists. That was pathetic
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Notice I'm saying not only start Thompson, but speed up the offense. Thompson's a:to is great for a veteran Pg, never one a freshman who was labeled a combo guard. His steal numbers are also very impressive and it's not crazy to think he could break the single season record at Tennessee as a freshman.

You insert him into the starting spot, speed up on both sides of the ball and I think you'll see him really flourish. He's not gonna score 20 points a night, but 5pts 5ast 2stl while not rubrics the ball over is about what I would expect and better than what we've been getting.
 
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volbeast33 said:
That is my biggest fear....I think Zo is a mediocre coach with very mediocre recruiting.....if we squeeze into the tourney and stay borderline forever it will be like Devoe all over again. That was worse than the Houston yrs to me.
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My hope is Hart would sit him down and let him know making it once in awhile isn't gonna cut it. Keep the buyout small, and tell him the tourney appearances need to continue.
 
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Freak said:
BTO, how many different RPIs are there? It looks like realtimerpi.com has us at 94 today.
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There should just be one, it's one formula. Rpi forecast just updated and we are now at 85, I tried to view realtime's but it says you have to have a subscription to view their real time rankings.
 
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#56
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Freak said:
It only seems to update daily, that you can view for free anyway.

RealTimeRPI.com Men's College Basketball Rating Percentage Index (RPI) Ratings - A leading sports ratings and resources community on the Internet
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That has us at 94 as of last night from what I'm seeing...this early in the year you can move alot, from not much happening. 5 or 6 teams lose yesterday that were infront of us, a couple teams win that we've played it increases the SOS part of the formula for us, it's very possible to move those 9 spots overnight.

I like rpi forecast because it really goes in depth on each teams page. It'll give you an expected RPI for every possible scenario, from winning out to losing out. It'll show what games at this point we are favored in and underdogs in, lots of good info and they're usually very accurate with their numbers.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
That has us at 94 as of last night from what I'm seeing...this early in the year you can move alot, from not much happening. 5 or 6 teams lose yesterday that were infront of us, a couple teams win that we've played it increases the SOS part of the formula for us, it's very possible to move those 9 spots overnight.

I like rpi forecast because it really goes in depth on each teams page. It'll give you an expected RPI for every possible scenario, from winning out to losing out. It'll show what games at this point we are favored in and underdogs in, lots of good info and they're usually very accurate with their numbers.
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Very cool. I'll check that out.
 
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Freak said:
I understand your point, but is calling him an unknown a fair statement or not? I guess that's what i'm getting at.
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I don't think it's a fair statement to call him a complete unknown, no. We (Tennessee) played his team (Missouri St.) the very season he was hired. To the casual fan, perhaps he was. To those who follow basketball even semi-closely, he shoukdn't have been.

I'm not one bit surprised that someone who admittedly doesn't follow basketball had no idea who he was and would call him a complete unknown.
 
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cncchris33 said:
I don't think it's a fair statement to call him a complete unknown, no. We (Tennessee) played his team (Missouri St.) the very season he was hired. To the casual fan, perhaps he was. To those who follow basketball even semi-closely, he shoukdn't have been.

I'm not one bit surprised that someone who admittedly doesn't follow basketball had no idea who he was and would call him a complete unknown.
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CCM was an unknown. Not because I'd never heard of him until the day he coached Missouri state in TBA, but because I went back to forgetting his existence 30 seconds after we snuck outta there with a W. He was an unknown to most people. Even if you knew he existed, you'd have to call him an unknown. I mean, what had he done to that point to cause people to know him? Win his regular season conference title to a one bid league?
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Would like to see us come out with Thompson, Barton, McRae, Richardson and Stokes. Run, run and run...it will frustrate Virginia and would get them out of rhythm on both ends.

Do not go into that game and try to play their style, very well could be another game in the 30s or 40s if our outside shots aren't falling.
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Glad to see you finally joined me. Lol Though I'd prefer Moore over Barton, sliding Jordy and Josh to sg and SF respectively of course. But it's a start. :)
 
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BigZiti09 said:
CCM was an unknown. Not because I'd never heard of him until the day he coached Missouri state in TBA, but because I went back to forgetting his existence 30 seconds after we snuck outta there with a W. He was an unknown to most people. Even if you knew he existed, you'd have to call him an unknown. I mean, what had he done to that point to cause people to know him? Win his regular season conference title to a one bid league?
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I agree if the meaning of unknown referred to his coaching ability. I took it to mean his existence.
 
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cncchris33 said:
I don't think it's a fair statement to call him a complete unknown, no. We (Tennessee) played his team (Missouri St.) the very season he was hired. To the casual fan, perhaps he was. To those who follow basketball even semi-closely, he shoukdn't have been.

I'm not one bit surprised that someone who admittedly doesn't follow basketball had no idea who he was and would call him a complete unknown.
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I guess I don't feel that just because Tennessee played him, that prevents him from being an "unknown". Tennessee plays directional schools every year and by my definition that doesn't make their coaches a "known" commodity.

I consider a three year mid-major guy with no trips to the AA tournament, an unknown. I think most would agree, but thats just my opinion.
 
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This thread can be summed up with cuanzo was unproven unknown and now he is known to be a complete waist of worthless time of he can't coach
 
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Freak said:
I guess I don't feel that just because Tennessee played him, that prevents him from being an "unknown". Tennessee plays directional schools every year and by my definition that doesn't make their coaches a "known" commodity.

I consider a three year mid-major guy with no trips to the AA tournament, an unknown. I think most would agree, but thats just my opinion.
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As Calban suggested, if you replace known/unknown with proven/unproven in your above quote, I'd be in agreement.
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
Exactly. I'm no hoops fan and I knew we were getting a high demand coach based on what he did at Milwaukee. A midmajor guy who rebuilds programs, wins conference titles and goes to the NCAA tourney is not obscure. OTOH I'd never heard of Cuonzo until he was announced as BP's replacement. Again, Shaka and Greg Marshall are the basketball equivalent of Chris Petersen before he left Boisie. Everybody wants those guys.
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we passed over Greg Marshall twice.
 
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