' 13 FL CB Mackensie Alexander

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The Breakerboy said:
Maybe you should read where I said I got into a fight with one of our(the Team) D-linemen. Kid was my age and had 40-50 pounds on me. He was an a-hole who started crap with a lot of people. He got mad and jumped on me over my buddies house so I had to go for what I know. Roughing some kids up once is much different than bullying. I didn't seek out and destroy weak kids. Hell I was worse on young football players 9-10th graders than the others.
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I read everything you posted, and fwiw you seem to take a lot of pride in "roughing some kids up" and "beating the hell out of that boy". I've had to intervene in a few situations myself, but beating the hell out of someone is not something to be proud of imo.
 
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ORANGE & WHITE said:
You can't always expect teenagers to make sound adult decisions. Just let it go.
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This is my point O&W. They expect every kid to make the best decisions. It just doesn't happen like that. I'm not saying what they did was right but I can really understand where they are coming from at that age.
 
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ORANGE & WHITE said:
Everybody has done things they regret. I've picked some fights as a young man and acted a fool. It isnt uncommon.
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Man when you've been in that position before you know what state of mind they're in. I've got kids I work with that have done things their own parents don't know about. I found out about certain things that were going on, we talked about it(plus ran them to death lol) and they've straighten things up. All part of growing up for some kids.
 
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Thankfully some of you where/are actual athletes in this thread. Breaker boy I have no problem with what you did in terms of the heckling situation. In fact I applaud you. Some of these so called fans/spectators need to learn to shut their mouth up. More then half of them have never even played any sport at the collegiate level to begin with. How can you boo someone, when you can't even do a quarter of what they did, good or bad. Lol I love the overweight guys booing and making all these comments at games. These "spectators" who most of the time have little to no athletic ability have no idea how much hard work Is put in by these kids to compete at a high level. Then when the actual athlete confronts them, they get quiet. SMFH. Just spectate, and keep your mouth shut.
 
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TP801 said:
Thankfully some of you where/are actual athletes in this thread. Breaker boy I have no problem with what you did in terms of the heckling situation. In fact I applaud you. Some of these so called fans/spectators need to learn to shut their mouth up. More then half of them have never even played any sport at the collegiate level to begin with. How can you boo someone, when you can't even do a quarter of what they did, good or bad. Lol I love the overweight guys booing and making all these comments at games. These "spectators" who most of the time have little to no athletic ability have no idea how much hard work Is put in by these kids to compete at a high level. Then when the actual athlete confronts them, they get quiet. SMFH. Just spectate, and keep your mouth shut.
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Lol..... let's let this cool back down man. Lol

This thread has a lot of hate in it. Seeing we probably won't have to deal with this kid this thread should die off soon.
 
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The Breakerboy said:
Lol..... let's let this cool back down man. Lol

This thread has a lot of hate in it. Seeing we probably won't have to deal with this kid this thread should die off soon.
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Completely agree. That topic is just something that lights a fire in me. At every baseball or football game I have been to, I have never booed or heckled any of the guys on the field, and I never will. That might be taking it overboard . However, I know how much work is put in to play on any major d-1 college team, no matter what the sport. I respect that.
 
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IBlvNTmWrk said:
I read everything you posted, and fwiw you seem to take a lot of pride in "roughing some kids up" and "beating the hell out of that boy". I've had to intervene in a few situations myself, but beating the hell out of someone is not something to be proud of imo.
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It might not be something to be proud of but i say it is a better thing to be the one who is beating the crap out of another person than the one getting his a-- kicked.i never started a fight in my life but i finished two or three dozen.
 
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volfan414life said:
It might not be something to be proud of but i say it is a better thing to be the one who is beating the crap out of another person than the one getting his a-- kicked.i never started a fight in my life but i finished two or three dozen.
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The Breakerboy said:
Maybe you should read where I said I got into a fight with one of our(the Team) D-linemen. Kid was my age and had 40-50 pounds on me. He was an a-hole who started crap with a lot of people. He got mad and jumped on me over my buddies house so I had to go for what I know. Roughing some kids up once is much different than bullying. I didn't seek out and destroy weak kids. Hell I was worse on young football players 9-10th graders than the others.
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Just glad some of the kids you roughed up a little bit and younger players that you did the same too did not come back and put a bullet in your brain. I played football in HS and was the starting QB and I was apt to protect those who were bullied than the other way around. If someone gets in your face like the d lineman and you protect yourself, well sure, do what you have to do. But to be setting some kind of order just sounds so immature. Several kids in the area I live in now are D1 players and others going to smaller colleges and they don't do this crap. Austin Sanders is one that comes to mind and he has been that way even when younger and tall and skinney in elementary school. Going out of your way to rough people up is being a bully. Protecting yourself or someone else who is being bullied is commendable. Hope my kid will know the difference.
 
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I also agree high school players should never be booed. Ridiculous for adults to do that to kids. I had it happened to me by a frost dad when I had rotator cuff problems and threw a bad pass my senior year after having lost my sister right before the season. I stepped out of the huddle and told him where to go in front of the whole team and community. Then got back in the huddle. Not my best moment. But, folks should not do that to KIDS. My dad was a pastor too so it was a very interesting moment. Maybe this will help make the mood lighter. Just imagine screaming that out to a guy in front of everyone and you are suppose to be the good kid. Still funny when we talk about it today. Oh, the guy shut up!
 
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FYI I was at the game and the Immokalee "fans" were terrible. Grown men crying and whining at everything. Threatened some of the players as they walked off of the sidelines and some players took offense to it. No fighting, just words exchanged before they got it under control and got the kids in the locker room. Parents should be ashamed of themselves.
 
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The Breakerboy said:
You really expect a 10 year old kid to shrug off boos well??? If a little leaguer gets booed or heckled. I'd punch that adult in the mouth myself.
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I actually agree with you on this. I coach little league baseball and basketbll and the parents and so many coaches or just plain ignorant like jave36.
 
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jave36 said:
Yes, I expect that. It's every coach's job to teach that. Everything inside me wants to beat the sh1t out of those loud mouths heckling kids, but being a man means not resulting to violence unless you absolutely have to and not giving the haters the satisfaction of rattling you.

I mouthed off to a heckler once my whole life and my coach benched me for two games. Best lesson I ever learned.
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okay i was too harsh jave36............I see your point to an extent however, if someone is booing a 10 year old kid or younger even ( have seen it) then a good coach will teach the kid not to respond but will also tell parents or whomever is doing it to shut up and be a good example. If I am wrong, then so is John Smoltz and Cal Ripken. Kids should get to play and learn and enjoy the game. Booing and heckling even high school kids is just poor behavior.
 
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JacketVol said:
I actually agree with you on this. I coach little league baseball and basketbll and the parents and so many coaches or just plain ignorant like jave36.
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Lol, I'm ignorant because I do n't approve of my kids going into the stands and fighting hecklers? Call me ignorant then. You're a POS coach if you encourage your little league players to go confront people in the stands. I'd bench mine for even responding verbally.
 
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JacketVol said:
okay i was too harsh jave36............I see your point to an extent however, if someone is booing a 10 year old kid or younger even ( have seen it) then a good coach will teach the kid not to respond but will also tell parents or whomever is doing it to shut up and be a good example. If I am wrong, then so is John Smoltz and Cal Ripken. Kids should get to play and learn and enjoy the game. Booing and heckling even high school kids is just poor behavior.
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I maturely ask the fans to be respectful, and if they don't, I try to get the ump to throw them out. My kids know better than to respond though, and IMO any decent coach would teach their kids the same.
 
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That is why I said I was too harsh. After reading your other posts, I got what you meant. I think as a coach, you should never have to teach kids to ignore at that age, there should be nothing to ignore. The tact of telling them to be quiet and if not, getting ump to throw them out is appropriate. I have a situation right now having to deal with a parent who I think was real close to hitting his kid with the kid just missing a ball the other day. Kid is eight years old. I thought you were saying it is okay to teach them just to ignore idiot people and let the idiots just boo and heckle them. At some point when they are much older, they have to deal with that. But, at ten, it is our responsibility to make sure they don't have to handle that crap. It is suppose to be fun and a chance to learn how to play the right way. Was confused till I read your other post. Sorry about that.
 
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jave36 said:
I maturely ask the fans to be respectful, and if they don't, I try to get the ump to throw them out. My kids know better than to respond though, and IMO any decent coach would teach their kids the same.
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It is hard to teach a six year old to not be scared of some of these folks and how they act. I get what you are saying. There is a line however that we have to stop allowing these idiot parents to stop crossing. Including some parents doing it to just their own kids. Have seen too many kids quit because of their parents. I actually think we are on the same page. But, elementary kids should not have to worry about hecklers at the ballpark. Would you not agree?
 
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JacketVol said:
It is hard to teach a six year old to not be scared of some of these folks and how they act. I get what you are saying. There is a line however that we have to stop allowing these idiot parents to stop crossing. Including some parents doing it to just their own kids. Have seen too many kids quit because of their parents. I actually think we are on the same page. But, elementary kids should not have to worry about hecklers at the ballpark. Would you not agree?
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Yep agreed not even HS kids should have to worry about it, but every walk of life has hecklers, and one of the best lessons sports teaches us is to shrug it off.
 
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