'13 GA CB Shaq Wiggins (Transferring to UT)

#926
#926
You all are crazy acting like his skill positions aren't athletic. Osweiler was just trash. Fuller for one made his presence known early. If he corrects his drop problems at times he'll be a great WR. Kid can blow the top of a defense off in a hurry.
 
#927
#927
LaagerVol said:
I think it's top 15-20. Hopkins is really good, Fuller is fast and had a good rookie year, Lamar Miller is a top 20 back. QB has been their weakness.
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Top 20 isn't impressive. That's the bottom half of the league
 
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#928
Vol8188 said:
Top 20 isn't impressive. That's the bottom half of the league
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I don't recall saying it's mpressive? I think their skill positions are in the top 15-20, meaning middle of the pack. He has some guys to work with though.
 
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#930
The Breakerboy said:
You all are crazy acting like his skill positions aren't athletic. Osweiler was just trash. Fuller for one made his presence known early. If he corrects his drop problems at times he'll be a great WR. Kid can blow the top of a defense off in a hurry.
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He isn't anything special man and can't catch. You like him, but don't like Malone? Lol hmmm
 
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#931
Nashvegas31 said:
Agree. He is royally pissed off he is about seeing two other QBs go in front of him. He will go off. I don't get why anyone take Mahomes over him.
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Mahomes has a lot of upside and can sling it, Watson is more polished though and ready for playing time. Why would Watson be pissed off? This ain't a Tom Brady 6th round situation.
 
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#933
avolation said:
Mahomes has a lot of upside and can sling it, Watson is more polished though and ready for playing time. Why would Watson be pissed off? This ain't a Tom Brady 6th round situation.
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Cuz he was the best QB in draft and been to past two national championship lighting up a NFL defense yet gets disrespected for a one year starter and a dude that never win **** and misses easy throws
 
#934
#934
Nashvegas31 said:
Cuz he was the best QB in draft and been to past two national championship lighting up a NFL defense yet gets disrespected for a one year starter and a dude that never win **** and misses easy throws
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I was shocked KC took Mahomes. They run that dink and dunk offense and Mahomes has an absurd cannon and isn't nearly as polished as Watson.
 
#935
#935
jave36 said:
I was shocked KC took Mahomes. They run that dink and dunk offense and Mahomes has an absurd cannon and isn't nearly as polished as Watson.
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They took him to sit behind Alex Smith for a couple of years, he will be able to work on getting more polished.
 
#936
#936
jave36 said:
I was shocked KC took Mahomes. They run that dink and dunk offense and Mahomes has an absurd cannon and isn't nearly as polished as Watson.
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They're dink and dunk because that's what Alex Smith is.
 
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#937
AV_12 said:
They're dink and dunk because that's what Alex Smith is.
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This times 100. They are about to pivot their strategy. Go from the run and short throw game to a more modern ball game. Same with the Titans look at all the speed they added on the offensive side. Not saying these two teams will swap over next season, but it's coming soon.
 
#940
#940
Nashvegas31 said:
Cuz he was the best QB in draft and been to past two national championship lighting up a NFL defense yet gets disrespected for a one year starter and a dude that never win **** and misses easy throws
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Please... Lighting up an NFL defense? Remind me, which NFL team played in the NCAACG...

smh...
 
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#943
cncchris33 said:
To be fair, the Alabama defense is about as close to an NFL defense as he'll see outside of the NFL.
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Also to be fair, the clock not stopping for first downs means that in the NFL his game winning drive most likely ends with a FG to send it into overtime.


The NFL and CFB are just different beasts. Talent of the players isn't the only thing that makes them different. There are a lot of small things like little rule differences, differences in spacing on the field due to ththe hash marks, play calling working differently, etc. that compound together to make it a lot more difficult.

For example, gruden's QB camp this year (can't remember which episodes, but all the QBs were basically spread guys anyway) had a segment where he was teaching one of the QBs to call a play in the huddle the way NFL QBs often do nowadays (with two separate plays called so you can change to the second one of the defense gives you a bad look) and it took the kid 3-4 tries to get it down. It will be so different going from the system most of them played in where getting a play called just included everybody lining up and looking to the sideline to see what to do (or maybe audibling and checking th sideline again) to a system where the QB has to be able to call two separate plays, go to the line and read the defense, decided if it's the right look, change the play if isn't the right look, and have little to no hang ups immediately making that change and knowing everybody's assignments and your reads.

IMO that's as big of a question mark with Watson as his low velocity numbers throwing the ball at the combine
 
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#946
Nashvegas31 said:
yep lit up 3 first/second rd picks in that secondary. Not sure why people don't think Watson is a bad azz
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Manziel beat up on some pretty loses Alabama units as well. CFB and the NFL are just different beasts, man.

Not saying I think Watson won't make it or anything. But there have been plenty of CFB players who made great college offenses/defenses look silly and never amounted to much in the NFL.
 
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#948
Darth_Shiveman said:
Manziel beat up on some pretty loses Alabama units as well. CFB and the NFL are just different beasts, man.

Not saying I think Watson won't make it or anything. But there have been plenty of CFB players who made great college offenses/defenses look silly and never amounted to much in the NFL.
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Manziel is a different case period. Kid is a spoiled little punk....
 
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#949
Darth_Shiveman said:
Also to be fair, the clock not stopping for first downs means that in the NFL his game winning drive most likely ends with a FG to send it into overtime.


The NFL and CFB are just different beasts. Talent of the players isn't the only thing that makes them different. There are a lot of small things like little rule differences, differences in spacing on the field due to ththe hash marks, play calling working differently, etc. that compound together to make it a lot more difficult.

For example, gruden's QB camp this year (can't remember which episodes, but all the QBs were basically spread guys anyway) had a segment where he was teaching one of the QBs to call a play in the huddle the way NFL QBs often do nowadays (with two separate plays called so you can change to the second one of the defense gives you a bad look) and it took the kid 3-4 tries to get it down. It will be so different going from the system most of them played in where getting a play called just included everybody lining up and looking to the sideline to see what to do (or maybe audibling and checking th sideline again) to a system where the QB has to be able to call two separate plays, go to the line and read the defense, decided if it's the right look, change the play if isn't the right look, and have little to no hang ups immediately making that change and knowing everybody's assignments and your reads.

IMO that's as big of a question mark with Watson as his low velocity numbers throwing the ball at the combine
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Look, I'm not making a case for D. Watson. I just think it's silly to criticize him for having never faced an NFL defense as if that were unique to only him. No college QB has faced an NFL defense before, but Watson has twice faced the next best thing, and did well to boot. That may, or may not translate to the actual NFL. Time will tell.
 
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#950
cncchris33 said:
Look, I'm not making a case for D. Watson. I just think it's silly to criticize him for having never faced an NFL defense as if that were unique to only him. No college QB has faced an NFL defense before, but Watson has twice faced the next best thing, and did well to boot. That may, or may not translate to the actual NFL. Time will tell.
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No argument here. Just pointing out that success vs elite college defenses doesn't necessarily equate to NFL success.
 
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