'13 TN OL Austin Sanders (UT signee)

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I've mentioned elsewhere that I've had about enough of the 'OLine sucks' dialogue.

Having said that...

I know it's Chattanooga, and I know it was a tired defensive line that was down 28 at the time. I also know that offensive line is the position that I know least about in terms of technique, so I'm hardly the person to judge. But I looked through Freak's play-by-play offense video specifically to watch Sanders, and what I saw made me legitimately wonder why he doesn't get real snaps.

I saw him make a block on every play but one (he slipped into the second level and missed on a LB... ended up not mattering because Peterman got smoked in the backfield by a DE from the right side if I recall). Every time I saw him make a block, he pushed his man into the defensive backfield and frequently planted him. I don't think I've seen pancake blocks from any other offensive linemen since Week 2.

Surely there's a place on this line for Sanders right now. I believe in Butch Jones and I think he has a plan. I think that plan will work. But I also think it's possible to focus so intently on the future of your team that you lose sight of the present. Will these snaps eventually pay off for Robertson and Thomas? Probably. But I find it difficult to believe that in the short term, we wouldn't be better off with Sanders at LT, Kerbyson at RT, and Thomas in the weight room.
 
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Atzar said:
I've mentioned elsewhere that I've had about enough of the 'OLine sucks' dialogue.

Having said that...

I know it's Chattanooga, and I know it was a tired defensive line that was down 28 at the time. I also know that offensive line is the position that I know least about in terms of technique, so I'm hardly the person to judge. But I looked through Freak's play-by-play offense video specifically to watch Sanders, and what I saw made me legitimately wonder why he doesn't get real snaps.

I saw him make a block on every play but one (he slipped into the second level and missed on a LB... ended up not mattering because Peterman got smoked in the backfield by a DE from the right side if I recall). Every time I saw him make a block, he pushed his man into the defensive backfield and frequently planted him. I don't think I've seen pancake blocks from any other offensive linemen since Week 2.

Surely there's a place on this line for Sanders right now. I believe in Butch Jones and I think he has a plan. I think that plan will work. But I also think it's possible to focus so intently on the future of your team that you lose sight of the present. Will these snaps eventually pay off for Robertson and Thomas? Probably. But I find it difficult to believe that in the short term, we wouldn't be better off with Sanders at LT, Kerbyson at RT, and Thomas in the weight room.
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That's exactly what I've been preaching for two weeks. Butch makes a lot of money to make these decisions and he will be ultimately responsible for those decisions. I'm 100% behind the man but this is one area that makes me scratch my head to the point I have a bald spot.
 
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goldenvol said:
Here we go again. Then play the kids that are older and been in the program longer if the freshman obviously can't get it done.

So, your a square peg round hole person.
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What kids that have been around longer? That's our problem. There's not any. It sucks, but give it time.
 
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Please don't take me wrong in what I said about Austin's strength. I wasn't pointing fingers at any one player on the team, simply that Brett and Austin are a couple of the stronger kids, but that by no means makes him better! Whatever Butchs reasoning is, I hope for everyone's sake that it is the right one. Whatever it is, Austin doesn't say anything, and that's good because I would probably blab on here about it! Austin has said Coleman is good , he just needs some time, so we will see. There are reasons for everything and there has to be a reason my son isn't in. Do I get mad, maybe mad isn't the word. Upset, concerned that maybe Austin has done something wrong, I doubt that but I don't know!
 
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thatsmyboy said:
Please don't take me wrong in what I said about Austin's strength. I wasn't pointing fingers at any one player on the team, simply that Brett and Austin are a couple of the stronger kids, but that by no means makes him better! Whatever Butchs reasoning is, I hope for everyone's sake that it is the right one. Whatever it is, Austin doesn't say anything, and that's good because I would probably blab on here about it! Austin has said Coleman is good , he just needs some time, so we will see. There are reasons for everything and there has to be a reason my son isn't in. Do I get mad, maybe mad isn't the word. Upset, concerned that maybe Austin has done something wrong, I doubt that but I don't know!
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Thanks for the insight. :good!:
 
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thatsmyboy said:
Please don't take me wrong in what I said about Austin's strength. I wasn't pointing fingers at any one player on the team, simply that Brett and Austin are a couple of the stronger kids, but that by no means makes him better! Whatever Butchs reasoning is, I hope for everyone's sake that it is the right one. Whatever it is, Austin doesn't say anything, and that's good because I would probably blab on here about it! Austin has said Coleman is good , he just needs some time, so we will see. There are reasons for everything and there has to be a reason my son isn't in. Do I get mad, maybe mad isn't the word. Upset, concerned that maybe Austin has done something wrong, I doubt that but I don't know!
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Brother, I think most of Volnation agrees with you and feels your pain. I would love to see Austin getting the starts right now, as he performed much better in his limited snaps than any other lineman we have (at least in my humble opinion). Just know that we're all proud of Austin, and you by virtue of raising a big orange beast, and I think we're all pulling for him! :salute:
 
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thatsmyboy said:
Please don't take me wrong in what I said about Austin's strength. I wasn't pointing fingers at any one player on the team, simply that Brett and Austin are a couple of the stronger kids, but that by no means makes him better! Whatever Butchs reasoning is, I hope for everyone's sake that it is the right one. Whatever it is, Austin doesn't say anything, and that's good because I would probably blab on here about it! Austin has said Coleman is good , he just needs some time, so we will see. There are reasons for everything and there has to be a reason my son isn't in. Do I get mad, maybe mad isn't the word. Upset, concerned that maybe Austin has done something wrong, I doubt that but I don't know!
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Glad Austin is a Vol... Thanks for the insight!!!!
 
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The line takes time, I'm sure the coaches that see things everyday are right more than most on here speculating. While I agree that it takes time and that continuity is very important, I also think if the competition is close there is nothing wrong with seeing Wiseman, Sanders and Kendrick get more chances. But I don't think the coaches have any hidden agendas I just think they believe they have the right group based on what they have seen. But as a whole they all need to be working hard to getting stronger tougher and better. GO VOLS!!
 
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thatsmyboy said:
Please don't take me wrong in what I said about Austin's strength. I wasn't pointing fingers at any one player on the team, simply that Brett and Austin are a couple of the stronger kids, but that by no means makes him better! Whatever Butchs reasoning is, I hope for everyone's sake that it is the right one. Whatever it is, Austin doesn't say anything, and that's good because I would probably blab on here about it! Austin has said Coleman is good , he just needs some time, so we will see. There are reasons for everything and there has to be a reason my son isn't in. Do I get mad, maybe mad isn't the word. Upset, concerned that maybe Austin has done something wrong, I doubt that but I don't know!
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Thanks for returning to the thread. There are so many fans and posters that think they know more than they know and cannot stand for the coaches to be questioned. Which is really puzzling to some of us that have watched the coaches come and go for the past 10 years with all these bad seasons. We believe Butch is the right guy. But we also know what we know. We want your boy and Kendrick to play because it is likely they will play better than two true freshmen having been in the program longer and prepared for their turn. AD is very close to a VFL friend of mine and I have talked with him on a few occasions. If he says he is killing it, you can take it to the bank. Time for some changes.
 
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I have said before that, I think this coaching staff wants lean, athletic guys, vs a guy who is more of big guy as they think that the big guys can't hold up to run the fast paced offense that they want to run..............note to staff "when ur lean guys can't block, then u have to go w/ the best guy possible...........whether they can hold up stamina wise or not over 4 qtrs.....................I firmly believe, Blair, Wiseman, and sometimes Pair should be in the lineup or at letting getting SNAPS..........but I love CBJ, but I think he's stubborn
 
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grobin4300 said:
I have said before that, I think this coaching staff wants lean, athletic guys, vs a guy who is more of big guy as they think that the big guys can't hold up to run the fast paced offense that they want to run..............note to staff "when ur lean guys can't block, then u have to go w/ the best guy possible...........whether they can hold up stamina wise or not over 4 qtrs.....................I firmly believe, Blair, Wiseman, and sometimes Pair should be in the lineup or at letting getting SNAPS..........but I love CBJ, but I think he's stubborn
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It has been stated many times that Pair is not athletically capable of playing at an SEC-level. I think it has been mostly attributed to the knee injury that he did not come back from 100%.
 
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Six sacks and less than three yards per rush against UTC tells me all I need to know about the plan. You are going to be a loser in the SEC.
 
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Last year, he was probably calling for Jancek's head. Our offensive line isn't very good this year, but it is indeed a process. We lost all five starters. We are starting two true freshmen. Give it time. It hasn't been two seasons yet. If we had a few returners from last year's OL, we would be 5-1 and Bajakian would look like a genius.
 
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