'13 TN RB Mark Dodson

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I4Jay said:
again not true, there are lazy coaches who do use it.

Ask any Miami fan about Larry Coker. and if someone that large with a huge recruiting budget is doing it, just imagine how many lower budget schools' coaches do the same.
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I have friends in the coaching profession. Some at SEC schools, some at MAC conference, 1 in the PAC 12.

All of them say that coaches don't use it. I'm sure Coker was lazy (as exemplified by his record), but I'm positive the "Miami" fan doesn't have or know the inner workings of Miami recruiting planning.
 
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Im not gonna name drop to try and further validate my point

Coker did use it. it had been made public by folks on his staff

It happens, in an ideal situation, you would hope it doesnt but it does.
 
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I4Jay said:
Im not gonna name drop to try and further validate my point

Coker did use it. it had been made public by folks on his staff

It happens, in an ideal situation, you would hope it doesnt but it does.
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I'll just say this, if he used scout, rivals, etc., for evaluations, then he is dumber than he looks.

Top coaches don't, and mid majors rely a lot more on highschool coaching connections and regional clinics and combines.
 
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Coaches look at those sites but looking and evaluating and offering based off sites is different. The top staffs trust ther own eyes and only use the sites to double check they aren't missing someone they didn't have tape on.
 
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I will just end on this clarification.

They may (and probably do) you a rivals or scout to get a list together of All-Staters or All-Conference players. They can also look at film there too (there are professional recruiting services that are just for coaches that usually have a better film library on players).

Any coach worth his salt and all that I have talked to do not use, trust or care about some rival or scout person's evaluation on a player.

I'm done.
 
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LittleDTO said:
Wa_Vol,

You continue to amaze me. Recruiting services are run for fans and aren't even looked at by coaches. There are a few recruiting service companies that coaches refer to for quick information but they aren't open to the general public.

Your Barry Sanders and Thurman Thomas posts are pure comedy.
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And I guess it's a pure coincidence that the team that won the BCS championship, Alabama, had 3 #1 recruiting classes on Rivals in the last 4 years: Yahoo Sports: Rivals.com 2008 Team Recruiting Rankings

2011 #1
2010 #5
2009 #1
2008 #1

And a school that has had 2 RB's inducted into the NFL Hall of Fame in the last 10 years is going to struggle recruiting RB's.
 
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WA_Vol said:
And I guess it's a pure coincidence that the team that won the BCS championship, Alabama, had 3 #1 recruiting classes on Rivals in the last 4 years: Yahoo Sports: Rivals.com 2008 Team Recruiting Rankings

2011 #1
2010 #5
2009 #1
2008 #1
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I don't think anybody can legitimately argue that having a good recruiting class generally correlates with success. However, I don't see the sense of breaking down every single player based on how many stars they have, especially in april when alot is still left to change with summer camps etc. They are not going to get every single player correctly, but for the most part get the general trend right
 
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vol2013 said:
I don't think anybody can legitimately argue that having a good recruiting class generally correlates with success. However, I don't see the sense of breaking down every single player based on how many stars they have, especially in april when alot is still left to change with summer camps etc. They are not going to get every single player correctly, but for the most part get the general trend right
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I don't get to watch these players in high school. But with all of its shortcomings, I would much rather use a recruiting services profile of a high school player, then some poster on a message board that I don't know anything about.

Here is rivals list of the top 100 players: Yahoo Sports: Rivals.com Ranking - Rivals.com Rivals100 2013

It's April, but look at the committments. Over half the first 50 players say they have committed to a school.
 
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WA_Vol said:
I'm sure you know the starter at RB for the other Big 12 school though. :rolleyes:
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As a matter of fact I don't, but you're missing the point again. Since it's already been explained to you multiple times I can only surmise that you're either blind, deliberately being dense, or you're having a moment.
 
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barrythesnout said:
As a matter of fact I don't, but you're missing the point again. Since it's already been explained to you multiple times I can only surmise that you're either blind, deliberately being dense, or you're having a moment.
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Okla State has had 2 RB's in the last 10 inducted into the NFL Hall of Fame and you want to argue that their starting RB doesn't get recogintion? And I'm the one being dense. :unsure:
 
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WA_Vol said:
Okla State has had 2 RB's in the last 10 inducted into the NFL Hall of Fame and you want to argue that their starting RB doesn't get recogintion? And I'm the one being dense. :unsure:
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Please. That's ancient history as rbs go and you know it. And you still haven't answered my question.
 
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WA_Vol said:
Okla State has had 2 RB's in the last 10 inducted into the NFL Hall of Fame and you want to argue that their starting RB doesn't get recogintion? And I'm the one being dense. :unsure:
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So if Tn were to go to an option offense you are going to use Jamal Lewis and Travis Henry as your selling point? If you think Ok. St. currently had the offense to showcase elite RBs then you know nothing about football.
 
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tvols75 said:
So if Tn were to go to an option offense you are going to use Jamal Lewis and Travis Henry as your selling point? If you think Ok. St. currently had the offense to showcase elite RBs then you know nothing about football.
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Why because they use a single RB with 4 WR's a lot? Lots of teams use a single RB. You been living under a rock? UT uses it about half the time. OSU has finished the season in the top 10, two years in a row. But they can't recruit a RB.
 
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I Believe Herschel Sims signed with them couple years ago, unless he switched on NSD
 
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tvols75 said:
So if Tn were to go to an option offense you are going to use Jamal Lewis and Travis Henry as your selling point? If you think Ok. St. currently had the offense to showcase elite RBs then you know nothing about football.
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Look dumbass, here is where Okla State finished in rushing in Div 1, over the last 6 years:

52nd in 2011
35th in 2010
22nd in 2009
8th in 2008
8th in 2007
7th in 2006

2006 NCAA Division I-A College Football Team Statistics Leaders for Rushing - ESPN

2007 NCAA Division I-A College Football Team Statistics Leaders for Rushing - ESPN

2008 NCAA Division I-A College Football Team Statistics Leaders for Rushing - ESPN

2009 NCAA Division I-A College Football Team Statistics Leaders for Rushing - ESPN

2010 NCAA Division I-A College Football Team Statistics Leaders for Rushing - ESPN

http://espn.go.com/college-football/statistics/team/_/stat/rushing/sort/rushingYards
 
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WA_Vol said:
At what point did I say I didn't believe you? Thats not the point I was making. Dooley has lost several good instate players in that area. That was the point of the post. Not whether or not he had any interest in UT, my first post said he was high on Miss.
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How can one lose what one never had.
 
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WA_Vol said:
By not offering them a scholarship for starters.
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you sir are unfathomably dense. to drive the point home even better you just posted a list of states rushing game getting worse by leaps and bounds every year for the past 6 years...so yeah good luck Don Quixote, keep chasing those windmills.
 
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