'14 JUCO LB Chris Weatherd (UT Signee 2/5/14)

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RockyTop411 said:
I'd like to see that famous letter by Sab lol. To Scroggins correct?

And I still haven't watched the notebook. The lady friend is pushing it though.
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Yes, it was to Jesse Scroggins. You should go watch the notebook now! You'll have a poontinanny.
 
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Burger said:
Why not? You could actually say kids were getting an education. One of the huge complaints in the lawsuit is that kids weren't getting an education.
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There goes 50% of college football rosters across the board. Besides maybe Stanford, GT, and the Ivy League. Even those guys skirt around requirements.
 
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Go Fight Win said:
There goes 50% of college football rosters across the board. Besides maybe Stanford, GT, and the Ivy League. Even those guys skirt around requirements.
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I have a theory about this. You know way more in this area than I do, so maybe you can confirm. I think a lot of these kids that play power conference football are perfectly normal in intelligence - obviously, there are learning disability exceptions just as with non-SAs - but for the most part, a majority of them are perfectly normal. If they were normal students, they wouldn't have any problem completing coursework and keeping a reasonable GPA. But the amount of time commitment required to be a D1 football player in terms of lifting, conditioning, film study, practice, team meetings, therapy, in-season game travel, trying to get some food/sleep and maybe have a little social life and all of the stuff that goes with maintaining your game at an elite level simply doesn't allow time for adequate completion of the work at a standard level. There's only so many hours in the day, and school just sort of falls to the bottom of the priority list.
 
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RockyTop411 said:
I'd like to see that famous letter by Sab lol. To Scroggins correct?

And I still haven't watched the notebook. The lady friend is pushing it though.
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The first time I ever came to VN, Sabinoccio's letter to Scroggins was posted. I thought to myself, Main, these are not your kind of people. And I did not come back to VN for a couple of years.
 
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Vol Main said:
The first time I ever came to VN, Sabinoccio's letter to Scroggins was posted. I thought to myself, Main, these are not your kind of people. And I did not come back to VN for a couple of years.
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He was an extreme case. I think he still does it to a certain extent.
 
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NashVOL93 said:
I have a theory about this. You know way more in this area than I do, so maybe you can confirm. I think a lot of these kids that play power conference football are perfectly normal in intelligence - obviously, there are learning disability exceptions just as with non-SAs - but for the most part, a majority of them are perfectly normal. If they were normal students, they wouldn't have any problem completing coursework and keeping a reasonable GPA. But the amount of time commitment required to be a D1 football player in terms of lifting, conditioning, film study, practice, team meetings, therapy, in-season game travel, trying to get some food/sleep and maybe have a little social life and all of the stuff that goes with maintaining your game at an elite level simply doesn't allow time for adequate completion of the work at a standard level. There's only so many hours in the day, and school just sort of falls to the bottom of the priority list.
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If student athletes had to take 12 hours per semester then I would wholeheartedly agree with this. I want to say that they only have to take about 6 though to remain eligible (maybe someone knows specifically). And when you consider that they are often majoring in AA studies or sports management and have an army of tutors, then the workload is significantly reduced compared to that of an average student.

I have to agree with the poster who said that the semi-pro league is a valid route. It may not be the best football career out there, and I won't pretend that it will get you to the NFL, but it sure beats the hell out of flipping burgers with other people of a similar educational background.
 
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wilrob75 said:
If student athletes had to take 12 hours per semester then I would wholeheartedly agree with this. I want to say that they only have to take about 6 though to remain eligible (maybe someone knows specifically). And when you consider that they are often majoring in AA studies or sports management and have an army of tutors, then the workload is significantly reduced compared to that of an average student.

I have to agree with the poster who said that the semi-pro league is a valid route. It may not be the best football career out there, and I won't pretend that it will get you to the NFL, but it sure beats the hell out of flipping burgers with other people of a similar educational background.
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Guys that play semi-pro ball don't/can't do it for a living. They work regular jobs in addition to playing - that is why it is "semi"-pro.
 
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wilrob75 said:
If student athletes had to take 12 hours per semester then I would wholeheartedly agree with this. I want to say that they only have to take about 6 though to remain eligible (maybe someone knows specifically). And when you consider that they are often majoring in AA studies or sports management and have an army of tutors, then the workload is significantly reduced compared to that of an average student.

I have to agree with the poster who said that the semi-pro league is a valid route. It may not be the best football career out there, and I won't pretend that it will get you to the NFL, but it sure beats the hell out of flipping burgers with other people of a similar educational background.
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Lol they absolutely have to take 12
 
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wilrob75 said:
If student athletes had to take 12 hours per semester then I would wholeheartedly agree with this. I want to say that they only have to take about 6 though to remain eligible (maybe someone knows specifically). And when you consider that they are often majoring in AA studies or sports management and have an army of tutors, then the workload is significantly reduced compared to that of an average student.

I have to agree with the poster who said that the semi-pro league is a valid route. It may not be the best football career out there, and I won't pretend that it will get you to the NFL, but it sure beats the hell out of flipping burgers with other people of a similar educational background.
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Athletes must take 12 hours just like any other full-time student.
 
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wilrob75 said:
Agreed that several of the posters on here probably had crap grades, but a 2.5 at a juco is a fair bar to set for anyone expecting to pass any classes at a university. Most should be able to get that just by showing up on time and trying. It also amazes me how people on here are surprised when juco athletes don't qualify to get in.
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Agreed.
I think they should have a grandfathered class as changing the bar level midstream for some of these guys puts them in a tough spot. Wait, nevermind, I was expecting ncaa to do the right thing :)
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
That is where the parents/guardians step in and make sure the kid has the resources he needs to be successful. College is not for everyone. Especially if it's being paid for via scholarship. Student-Athlete is a 2 part commitment. You want a shot at the big time, put in the work. Don't look for or make excuses. If you want it, go get it.
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Most parents do not have these resources.
Coming from a single parent household that was in the just above poverty level income, that much easier said than done. :hi:
 
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