'15 AL OL Brandon Kennedy

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#901
Brillovol said:
Your words, dude. Sure sounds like you want a greater return on your "investment."
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Saban nor I have any desire to force Kennedy to stay at UA for a greater return on investment. Our problem is with UT and AU trying to gain a return on Bama's investment and use that return to directly compete against UA and Kennedy's former teammates.

That's why the NCAA and SEC rules that support reasonable transfer and contact restrictions were put place -- rules that UT and AU don't want to follow.

Kennedy is free to transfer without any penalty whatsoever to about 110 FBS schools. UA and Saban will assist him fully in achieving that. UA and Saban very recemtly did exactly that for backup offensive guard Dallas Warmack who grad transfered to Oregon, where former UA OL coach Mario Cristobal is the HC.

Lot's VN posters keep erroneously imagining stuff about what Saban and I have said and think, despite the fact that I've made it very clear numerous times.

Smh.
 
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#902
Tidal Surge said:
Saban nor I have any desire to force Kennedy to stay at UA for a greater return on investment. Our problem is with UT and AU trying to gain a return on Bama's investment and use that return to directly compete against UA and Kennedy's former teammates.

That's why the NCAA and SEC rules that support reasonable transfer and contact restrictions were put place -- rules that UT and AU don't want to follow.

Kennedy is free to transfer without any penalty whatsoever to about 110 FBS schools. UA and Saban will assist him fully in achieving that. UA and Saban very recemtly did exactly that for backup offensive guard Dallas Warmack who grad tramsfered to Oregon where former UA OL coach Mario Cristobal is the HC.
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It's not our fault he WANTS to come here.

It is your fault for preventing it.
:)
 
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#903
jakez4ut said:
It's not our fault he WANTS to come here.

It is your fault for preventing it.
:)
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:lol: You're right that it's not Vols fans' fault. But it's not my fault that UA's AD and HC are against it. So were the SEC school Presidents who supported the rules that UT and AU don't want to follow. Apparently the NCAA understood the need for some transfer and contact restriction rules too, otherwise they wouldn't be there. Maybe those rules will go away soon, so schools will then have complete freedom to recruit other schools players who have earned their degrees.
 
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#905
Tidal Surge said:
Saban nor I have any desire to force Kennedy to stay at UA for a greater return on investment. Our problem is with UT and AU trying to gain a return on Bama's investment and use that return to directly compete against UA and Kennedy's former teammates.

That's why the NCAA and SEC rules that support reasonable transfer and contact restrictions were put place -- rules that UT and AU don't want to follow.

Kennedy is free to transfer without any penalty whatsoever to about 110 FBS schools. UA and Saban will assist him fully in achieving that. UA and Saban very recemtly did exactly that for backup offensive guard Dallas Warmack who grad transfered to Oregon, where former UA OL coach Mario Cristobal is the HC.

Lot's VN posters keep erroneously imagining stuff about what Saban and I have said and think, despite the fact that I've made it very clear numerous times.

Smh.
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It’s about him! Not your investment anymore..He owes zero to Bama...He’s invested his scholarly time wisely and earned a degree...he wants to play football! He owes Saban, you or anything associated with Bama...nothing!
 
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#907
Tidal Surge said:
Saban nor I have any desire to force Kennedy to stay at UA for a greater return on investment. Our problem is with UT and AU trying to gain a return on Bama's investment and use that return to directly compete against UA and Kennedy's former teammates.

That's why the NCAA and SEC rules that support reasonable transfer and contact restrictions were put place -- rules that UT and AU don't want to follow.

Kennedy is free to transfer without any penalty whatsoever to about 110 FBS schools. UA and Saban will assist him fully in achieving that. UA and Saban very recemtly did exactly that for backup offensive guard Dallas Warmack who grad transfered to Oregon, where former UA OL coach Mario Cristobal is the HC.

Lot's VN posters keep erroneously imagining stuff about what Saban and I have said and think, despite the fact that I've made it very clear numerous times.

Smh.
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lmao
 
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#908
How much time does 1 man have to defend a second string center from making a move that he feels betters himself for his future.
 
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#909
#909
Tidal Surge said:
:lol: You're right that it's not Vols fans' fault. But it's not my fault that UA's AD and HC are against it. So were the SEC school Presidents who supported the rules that UT and AU don't want to follow. Apparently the NCAA understood the need for some transfer and contact restriction rules too, otherwise they wouldn't be there. Maybe those rules will go away soon, so schools will then have complete freedom to recruit other schools players who have earned their degrees.
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Meh. The only reason the conf is involved is because bama is choosing to enforce the rule. Their prerogative.

So it goes thru the appeal process. At the student's prerogative.:thumbsup:
 
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#910
Tidal Surge said:
Saban nor I have any desire to force Kennedy to stay at UA for a greater return on investment. Our problem is with UT and AU trying to gain a return on Bama's investment and use that return to directly compete against UA and Kennedy's former teammates.

That's why the NCAA and SEC rules that support reasonable transfer and contact restrictions were put place -- rules that UT and AU don't want to follow.

Kennedy is free to transfer without any penalty whatsoever to about 110 FBS schools. UA and Saban will assist him fully in achieving that. UA and Saban very recemtly did exactly that for backup offensive guard Dallas Warmack who grad transfered to Oregon, where former UA OL coach Mario Cristobal is the HC.

Lot's VN posters keep erroneously imagining stuff about what Saban and I have said and think, despite the fact that I've made it very clear numerous times.

Smh.
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All this Bama crap would carry more weight if we didn’t just hire your former DC. From a competitive advantage standpoint signing up a backup OL should be peanuts in comparison.
 
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#911
jakez4ut said:
What? That he's graduated and wants to actually play?
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What about the brotherhood? What about the awesomeness of winning rings? Dude bleeds crimson, right? He has three years left, he'll play. My point is that Bama should be more interested in fixing whatever causes guys like Kennedy to want to leave in the first place.
 
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#912
Tidal Surge said:
Saban nor I have any desire to force Kennedy to stay at UA for a greater return on investment. Our problem is with UT and AU trying to gain a return on Bama's investment and use that return to directly compete against UA and Kennedy's former teammates.

That's why the NCAA and SEC rules that support reasonable transfer and contact restrictions were put place -- rules that UT and AU don't want to follow.

Kennedy is free to transfer without any penalty whatsoever to about 110 FBS schools. UA and Saban will assist him fully in achieving that. UA and Saban very recemtly did exactly that for backup offensive guard Dallas Warmack who grad transfered to Oregon, where former UA OL coach Mario Cristobal is the HC.

Lot's VN posters keep erroneously imagining stuff about what Saban and I have said and think, despite the fact that I've made it very clear numerous times.

Smh.
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The only point I see here is that you and Saban are against the competition getting him. So you are allowed to recruit, make promises, bench them, and plan on them choosing to miss a year of training if they want to actually get to play the sport they love and hope to make a profession of. Even more aggregious if they have already graduated. Bama had the opportunity to play the kid. Now one wants to leave and play in a system that he thinks will help his career, and your team wants to submarine him just to minimize competition. ( as if we represent any competition to Bama now).
Sounds more than a bit selfish to me.
In short.... the kid paid his dues, Bama chose to pass him over. If you truly care about your players and their potential futures, then he should be free to do what he wishes.
It is within Saban’s authority to sign a waiver allowing him to go where he wishes. He might even want the opportunity to play against Saban and co to prove his metal. If I got passed over I know I would.
 
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SSVol said:
What about the brotherhood? What about the awesomeness of winning rings? Dude bleeds crimson, right? He has three years left, he'll play. My point is that Bama should be more interested in fixing whatever causes guys like Kennedy to want to leave in the first place.
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The Bama exceptionalism..
 
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SSVol said:
What about the brotherhood? What about the awesomeness of winning rings? Dude bleeds crimson, right? He has three years left, he'll play. My point is that Bama should be more interested in fixing whatever causes guys like Kennedy to want to leave in the first place.
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It seems to me that's what UA's AD and HC are trying to do. I could be wrong, but I think they believe UT and AU improperly enticed Kennedy to want to leave.
 
#915
#915
SSVol said:
What about the brotherhood? What about the awesomeness of winning rings? Dude bleeds crimson, right? He has three years left, he'll play. My point is that Bama should be more interested in fixing whatever causes guys like Kennedy to want to leave in the first place.
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That they have someone even more talented to play over him?

Yeah, they definitely need to fix the problem of good players not being able to see the field because they have even better players.
 
#917
#917
Tidal Surge said:
Saban nor I have any desire to force Kennedy to stay at UA for a greater return on investment. Our problem is with UT and AU trying to gain a return on Bama's investment and use that return to directly compete against UA and Kennedy's former teammates.

That's why the NCAA and SEC rules that support reasonable transfer and contact restrictions were put place -- rules that UT and AU don't want to follow.

Kennedy is free to transfer without any penalty whatsoever to about 110 FBS schools. UA and Saban will assist him fully in achieving that. UA and Saban very recemtly did exactly that for backup offensive guard Dallas Warmack who grad transfered to Oregon, where former UA OL coach Mario Cristobal is the HC.

Lot's VN posters keep erroneously imagining stuff about what Saban and I have said and think, despite the fact that I've made it very clear numerous times.

Smh.
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Correction....it is not NCAA rule ….it is solely an SEC rule.
 
#918
#918
Tidal Surge said:
Nope. Saban just doesn't like UT and AU inviting him to come there and play against the school that educated, supported and developed him as a FB player and against his brothers that he's leaving at UA. That's all.

Saban doesn't want him to sit. Nor do I. And he won't have to sit if he transfers to a non-SEC school or any other school that's not on UAs schedule for the next two seasons.
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Bless his 💓....did little Nicky get his feelings hurt?
 
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#919
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SobeVol said:
The only point I see here is that you and Saban are against the competition getting him. So you are allowed to recruit, make promises, bench them, and plan on them choosing to miss a year of training if they want to actually get to play the sport they love and hope to make a profession of. Even more aggregious if they have already graduated. Bama had the opportunity to play the kid. Now one wants to leave and play in a system that he thinks will help his career, and your team wants to submarine him just to minimize competition. ( as if we represent any competition to Bama now).
Sounds more than a bit selfish to me.
In short.... the kid paid his dues, Bama chose to pass him over. If you truly care about your players and their potential futures, then he should be free to do what he wishes.
It is within Saban’s authority to sign a waiver allowing him to go where he wishes. He might even want the opportunity to play against Saban and co to prove his metal. If I got passed over I know I would.
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Read this post multiple times TS, slowly.
 
#920
#920
alexvol said:
Correction....it is not NCAA rule ….it is solely an SEC rule.
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I could be wrong, but I think NCAA Bylaws do prohibit schools from communicating with other schools' student-athletes without first obtaining permission from the student-athlete's school. And, NCAA Bylaws do not prohibit schools from putting reasonable restrictions on transfer releases.
 
#921
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Tidal Surge said:
It seems to me that's what UA's AD and HC are trying to do. I could be wrong, but I think they believe UT and AU improperly enticed Kennedy to want to leave.
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Do you not see the arrogance of that position, in suggesting that the only reason he might want to leave is because others did something wrong, but not that he simply isn't that much into Bama?
 
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volfanngatorland said:
That they have someone even more talented to play over him?

Yeah, they definitely need to fix the problem of good players not being able to see the field because they have even better players.
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Do they? Will that remain true for his entire remaining 3 years? OL get hurt. He would've played.
 
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#924
#924
SSVol said:
Do they? Will that remain true for his entire remaining 3 years? OL get hurt. He would've played.
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If Kennedy didn't have the misfortune of an early season ending injury in 2017, he'd have gotten the additional development he needed in order to likely be the starting game one this season. If he stayed at Bama, he'd at least be next man up. Instead he wants to leave and he can.
 
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