'15 IL OL Jack Shutack

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tennesseefan31 said:
Technically that's not true. In his case it certainly was true but not by the letter of the law.

If an athlete plays 2 or more sports and is on scholarship, he must be on scholarship for the higher revenue sport. This will almost always be football, but i suppose it is possible for it to not be. The hierarchy is determined by revenue though, which isn't widely known.

Edit*- Someone mentioned Kentucky and that along with Kansas, if the football teams were REALLY bad could be examples. Also places like Villanova could be examples.
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He was asking about Ellington. At South Carolina, football is the higher revenue sport so he had to count in football. So, technically speaking, it is absolutely true in Ellington's case. I am familiar with the rule. :hi:
 
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TriedAndTrueVOL said:
He was asking about Ellington. At South Carolina, football is the higher revenue sport so he had to count in football. So, technically speaking, it is absolutely true in Ellington's case. I am familiar with the rule. :hi:
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My apologies. I know there's alot of confusion about the rule so I was just trying to help clear it up.

:hi:
 
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xJesusx56 said:
I think, from what I've read, that if you are on scholarship, and play football, it will be counted as a football scholarship regardless.
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This is the Nebraska rule. If my memory serves me correctly, they gave all in state players academic scholarships and freed up football scholarships. NCAA put a stop to it.
 
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Ace said:
This is the Nebraska rule. If my memory serves me correctly, they gave all in state players academic scholarships and freed up football scholarships. NCAA put a stop to it.
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Bear Bryant used to put football players on scholarship in all kinds of different sports. I think that's where the rule about having to be on scholarship in the higher revenue sport came from.
 
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Doug Atkins came to Tennessee on a basketball or maybe a baseball scholarship. It wasn't just Bear, but I think he did it the most.
 
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TriCitiesVol said:
Was Bruce Ellington at USCe on football scholarship? Genuine question. I ask because he also played basketball for a couple years with the Gamecocks.
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Ellington actually started out on basketball scholarship at USCe and eventually people realized he was better at football so he became a full time WR. Pretty wild story.
 
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NashVOL93 said:
Ellington actually started out on basketball scholarship at USCe and eventually people realized he was better at football so he became a full time WR. Pretty wild story.
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Yep...he was an early signee in basketball so he had to wait until the end of the academic year before he could participate in another sport due to NCAA rules. I remember him not being allowed to participate in spring football practice his freshman year because of it.
 
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85SugarVol said:
Thanks POA.

So hypothetical question: At a school, like say Kentucky, where Basketball is clearly king and superior to Football..

Could the coaches place top flight bball recruits on football scholarships and not have them count against the basketball limit?
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I think it worked for UNC that way with both Ronald Curry and Julius Peppers... Of course they both ended up better in football and went pro. :)...Curry was supposed to be the next great Tarheel PG.
 
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drvenner said:
Doug Atkins came to Tennessee on a basketball or maybe a baseball scholarship. It wasn't just Bear, but I think he did it the most.
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Atkins was on a basketball scholarship and that's really what he wanted to play. According to Atkins he was better at basketball than football.
 
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"One last thing, as we first mentioned a few weeks ago, Illinois offensive lineman Jack Shutack is looking at walking on at Tennessee but he has other scholarship offers as well. He's expecting to officially visit Tennessee next weekend."

- VQ
 
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Ron Swanson said:
"One last thing, as we first mentioned a few weeks ago, Illinois offensive lineman Jack Shutack is looking at walking on at Tennessee but he has other scholarship offers as well. He's expecting to officially visit Tennessee next weekend."

- VQ
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That'd be great!
 
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There was some clarification on this earlier in the thread. It is not a "football" rule per se, it just impacts football the vast majority of the time.

If a scholarship athlete plays 2 sports, their scholarship must count against the "highest revenue generating" sport.

Obviously, this will almost always be football (if football is one of the 2 sports).

Some possible exceptions mentioned would include basketball at schools like Kansas, Kentucky, & Connecticut.
 
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With several decent offers, I think he takes a scholarship over walking on at UT. CBs coming in for Rutgers after his OV there. Not a bad landing spot at all. Especially if it's paid for.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
With several decent offers, I think he takes a scholarship over walking on at UT. CBs coming in for Rutgers after his OV there. Not a bad landing spot at all. Especially if it's paid for.
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Wouldn't blame the kid at all. Difficult to justify walking on when D1 scholly's are available.
 
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GLDunlap said:
Atkins was on a basketball scholarship and that's really what he wanted to play. According to Atkins he was better at basketball than football.
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The story I heard when I was at UT in the 1956 was that Neyland was walking through the gym one afternoon and saw Atkins. He called him over and said as of now, you are a football story. I should have asked Doug if that story was correct when we both lived in Atlanta. The weight room consisted of a wooden stand with one bar and a bunch of weights. Atkins and Jack Stroud can in the weight room one day and they almost gilled the entire weight room. Two of the largest men I have ever seen. There are some stories about Atkins and Dick Evey when Dick was a rookie with the Bears. Another tim.
 
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