15 years of raw

#101
#101
I'd put that Angle/Shane match in my top 5 easy. Say what you will about Shane but he always took the bump.
 
#104
#104
GAVol said:
Austin couldn't even get himself booed when he put the stunner on Santa Claus.
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I know.

When he first fired off "Austin 3:16 says I just whipped your ass" to Jake "the Snake", the fans just sat in shock. Then they all started cheering him.

Then, I remember this, when Austin came out to pump a match against Owen Hart on a Monday night in 1997, he cussed the fans and they just kept cheering him on. He really could not be booed.

Wrestlemania 13 just cemented his status as a fan favorite.
 
#106
#106
justingroves said:
I know.

When he first fired off "Austin 3:16 says I just whipped your ass" to Jake "the Snake", the fans just sat in shock. Then they all started cheering him.

Then, I remember this, when Austin came out to pump a match against Owen Hart on a Monday night in 1997, he cussed the fans and they just kept cheering him on. He really could not be booed.

Wrestlemania 13 just cemented his status as a fan favorite.
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Austin came along at the perfect time and was put at the forefront of WWF's "Attitude" era in response to the rise of WCW that the fans couldn't help but love him. He was completely unlike anything else they had ever seen and his greatest appeal was that he came off as completely believable. It felt like every cuss word and hand gesture was sincere. Then he became the embodiment of everyone who ever wanted to tell their boss to go to hell. :)
 
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#107
GAVol said:
Austin came along at the perfect time and was put at the forefront of WWF's "Attitude" era in response to the rise of WCW that the fans couldn't help but love him. He was completely unlike anything else they had ever seen and his greatest appeal was that he came off as completely believable. It felt like every cuss word and hand gesture was sincere.:)
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:yes:

Wrestlemania 13 was IMO his best match.
 
#108
#108
GAVol said:
Austin came along at the perfect time and was put at the forefront of WWF's "Attitude" era in response to the rise of WCW that the fans couldn't help but love him. He was completely unlike anything else they had ever seen and his greatest appeal was that he came off as completely believable. It felt like every cuss word and hand gesture was sincere. Then he became the embodiment of everyone who ever wanted to tell their boss to go to hell. :)
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You mean Stone Cold was just a character? I thought it was real. Are you saying the real Steve Austin doesn't drink beer all day and beat the crap out of whoever pisses him off?

In all seriousness, you are deadon. Stone Cold played the part better than anyone in the business. Hat's right on Angle though. Without him to move the matches along, the wrestling of eight years ago would be as bad as it is today.
 
#109
#109
volfanbill said:
Without him to move the matches along, the wrestling of eight years ago would be as bad as it is today.
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No doubt about that. Stone Cold and the Rock were entertaining, but guys like Kurt Angle, HHH, and Jericho are a big part of the reason why WCW is no longer in business.


You can only ride stiffs like Goldberg, Luger, and DDP so far....eventually people will want to see characters with talent and personality.
 
#110
#110
Uhhh

Angle as a heel >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Angle as a face

I'm not sure that's enough of those >s anyway.
 
#111
#111
Jaytrain5 said:
No doubt about that. Stone Cold and the Rock were entertaining, but guys like Kurt Angle, HHH, and Jericho are a big part of the reason why WCW is no longer in business.


You can only ride stiffs like Goldberg, Luger, and DDP so far....eventually people will want to see characters with talent and personality.
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What sucked so bad was WCW had talent with no personality as well. Guys like Malenko and Benoit were incredible to watch inside the ring. On the mic they were absolutey terrible. They weren't even entertaining with managers or valets.
 
#113
#113
WCW when the nWo first started was uneffingreal. Then, Bischoff, like an idiotic Hollywood producer, took nWo too far and really quickly. When the nWo B team came about, it was done.
 
#114
#114
i would be interested to know how many posters on this board actually owned an NWO jersey... Either white or red or both. I can fortunately say I never owned one.
 
#117
#117
volfanbill said:
What sucked so bad was WCW had talent with no personality as well. Guys like Malenko and Benoit were incredible to watch inside the ring. On the mic they were absolutey terrible. They weren't even entertaining with managers or valets.
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WCW had a nice product in the late 90's. They had a great story going with the NWO, and they had tremendous talent on the upswing...they were in a perfect position to cement themselves as a legitimate long-term threat to the WWE.

But, instead of developing storylines and feuds for guys like Benoit, Guerro, Booker T, and Jericho, they pushed guys like DDP, Luger, Goldberg, and La Parka.

And what's worse is that, when they did push young talent, it was guys like Alex Wright, Disco Inferno, Norman Smiley and 3 Count.

There are no words to describe how horribly mismanaged that organization was.
 
#119
#119
Jaytrain5 said:
WCW had a nice product in the late 90's. They had a great story going with the NWO, and they had tremendous talent on the upswing...they were in a perfect position to cement themselves as a legitimate long-term threat to the WWE.

But, instead of developing storylines and feuds for guys like Benoit, Guerro, Booker T, and Jericho, they pushed guys like DDP, Luger, Goldberg, and La Parka.

And what's worse is that, when they did push young talent, it was guys like Alex Wright, Disco Inferno, Norman Smiley and 3 Count.

There are no words to describe how horribly mismanaged that organization was.
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There are two words: Eric Bischoff
 
#120
#120
The NWO had way too many members...They added a new member each week...

First it was Hall and Nash, then Hogan...then Dibiase, then Vincent, then Syxx, then the Giant, and an effing fake Sting, then Bagwell and Norton, and Big Bubba, and the freaking Great Muta, then Randy Savage...and on and on and on...ridiculous.....talk about too much of a good thing.

And they didn't learn their lesson!

Instead of dissolving the NWO, the just split it into 2 different divisions...a heel nwo, and a face nwo....horrible...
 
#121
#121
i see GA had to do some editing in here.

for the record, i agree with the original statements.
 
#122
#122
Jaytrain5 said:
The NWO had way too many members...They added a new member each week...

First it was Hall and Nash, then Hogan...then Dibiase, then Vincent, then Syxx, then the Giant, and an effing fake Sting, then Bagwell and Norton, and Big Bubba, and the freaking Great Muta, then Randy Savage...and on and on and on...ridiculous.....talk about too much of a good thing.

And they didn't learn their lesson!

Instead of dissolving the NWO, the just split it into 2 different divisions...a heel nwo, and a face nwo....horrible...
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they should have left it all Hall, Nash, Hogan and DiBiase.
 
#124
#124
i couldn't stand Buff and Big Papa Pump. They were somewhat funny to listen to, but horrible to watch. And to think i thought the Steiner Brothers were so cool growing up. I had honestly forgotten about 2/3 of the nWo's members.
 
#125
#125
Jeff Hardy is getting a humongous push right now. he beats HHH and Orton in back to back nights. good for him.
 
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