'17 FL DE Deandre Johnson (UT commit 12/12/16)

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utvols88 said:
So there I was.

Walking down the street, minding my own business and I see 1982 with his puppy. So I says to myself "Go over behind that Bush and when he passes... kick the puppy right in the kisser"

So I walk over to this bush and crouch. 1982 walks by and BAM RIGHT IN THE FACE OF THE PUPPY. This puppy did not see my headshot danger. It does four backflips in slow motion. So I run and hide in Jim Bobs Porta John for 3 hours and then walked home.
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I saw that!!! TBH, that dog was asking for it.
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Is he seriously 6'4" and 270? If so, why in the world do we want him to drop weight to play DE?
 
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VOL-uh-tile said:
I've always looked at stars as a probability. A 5 star has around a 70% chance of going to the NFL, a 4* somewhere around 50%, and a 3* at about 20%. Just the way it seems to me, no real numbers involved.
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IIRC, the numbers are more like about 22% of 4-star and 5-star recruits make it to the NFL and about 4-5% of 3-star and lower recruits make it to the NFL, based on some decent data a guy had in another thread a few months back.
 
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Vols said:
IIRC, the numbers are more like about 22% of 4-star and 5-star recruits make it to the NFL and about 4-5% of 3-star and lower recruits make it to the NFL, based on some decent data a guy had in another thread a few months back.
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Oh nice. I figured someone must have done the numbers. A bit lower than I expected, but it makes sense.
 
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Vols said:
IIRC, the numbers are more like about 22% of 4-star and 5-star recruits make it to the NFL and about 4-5% of 3-star and lower recruits make it to the NFL, based on some decent data a guy had in another thread a few months back.
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That is also because there are a greater total number of 3 star and lower ranked players than 4-5 stars combined. Therefore, the percentage of those in the NFL are lower. I would bet that the actual number of 3 star or lower players in the NFL are about the same or greater than 4-5 stars.

Just with a quick glance at it, the 4 and 5 stars in the NFL appear to be more skill players. The 3 stars and lower seem to show up on the lines and at LB and FB.

I have been a lifelong Cowboys fans. Looking at their starters, numerous people say they have the best OL in the league. According to Rivals, three of them were 3 stars or lower. Their FB was a 3 star, Dak was a 3 star, and Terrance Williams was a 2 star. Obviously, Bryant, Witten, and Elliot were highly rated.

As for their defense, they are a bunch of no names. Because Claiborne is out, I believe they currently have one 4 star in their starting lineup. That 4 star even went to Juco before Boise State. Even Sean Lee, their best defender, was a 3 star at PSU.
 
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VolGee4 said:
That is also because there are a greater total number of 3 star and lower ranked players than 4-5 stars combined. Therefore, the percentage of those in the NFL are lower. I would bet that the actual number of 3 star or lower players in the NFL are about the same or greater than 4-5 stars.

Just with a quick glance at it, the 4 and 5 stars in the NFL appear to be more skill players. The 3 stars and lower seem to show up on the lines and at LB and FB.

I have been a lifelong Cowboys fans. Looking at their starters, numerous people say they have the best OL in the league. According to Rivals, three of them were 3 stars or lower. Their FB was a 3 star, Dak was a 3 star, and Terrance Williams was a 2 star. Obviously, Bryant, Witten, and Elliot were highly rated.

As for their defense, they are a bunch of no names. Because Claiborne is out, I believe they currently have one 4 star in their starting lineup. That 4 star even went to Juco before Boise State. Even Sean Lee, their best defender, was a 3 star at PSU.
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I've said the exact same thing. It's flawed math because of the giant discrepancy in 3* to 4-5* ratio. To use your Cowboy example, Witten was highly rated, but as a DE, not a TE, so even he doesn't exactly fit the bill.

Cole Beasley-2*
Barry Church-3*
Sean Lee-3*
 
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OL is a developmental position more so than skill positions. Stars matter less, and coaching and teachability plays bigger roles in the trenches than other positions. JMO
 
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You gotta think Louisville is pretty disappointed not getting this guy, really fits their player profile
 
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csprig9 said:
You gotta think Louisville is pretty disappointed not getting this guy, really fits their player profile
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You talking about the De'andre Johnson that got dismissed from Florida State for punching a woman?
 
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1982Alum said:
Yeah they were. and now with the same coach they are 5-7. Great school and great coach to pattern our program after.
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Dude, they lost Dak Prescott, the best QB in the history of Miss. St., surely that loss is worth a little drop-off
 
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sjt18 said:
Maybe. But wouldn't that point to a very serious failure in his coaching ability considering that the OL has been bad each year since he lost the group left to him?
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I believe last year's OL blocked the second best rushing attack in school history. The pin and pull was a thing of beauty. Alabama players were quoted as saying that we were the most physical team they played.

This year, the OL regressed a little. Part of it was injuries as Thomas was not fully healthy to start the year, and we lost Hall for most of the year. Part of it was being stubborn with running Hurd and not letting Kamara and Kelly run more.

Not exactly sure what you are talking about.
 
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Sorry to be a Debbie downer, but securing this guys commitment reminds me a lot of the players that Dooley recruited.

Bottom line is, if you are beating out Miss St. for prospects your program is probably on the downward trend.
 
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