'17 FL WR Jacquez Jones (UT signee)

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cncchris33 said:
I hope so, but Butch allowing it to happen for as long as it did is concerning if the idea of it all falls on Azzani.
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Mahoney,Martinez and look out that window if you want to list concerns.
 
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cncchris33 said:
Oh, no doubt. I just hope he's wised up. Staff additions have been all positive so far.
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Just saying that what the OL was doing the last four years and the DBs stiff necks weren't lines in the sand. Butch has this fictional rep as a micromanager, but these issues seem proof that he gave his coaches a little too much leash, instead.
 
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Catbone said:
Yes. He learnt to take control then.
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He learned loyalty is overrated and he had to work daily with the group to see if what he was being told was what was going on. Butch can't micromanage each position group. When he did, we had breakout seasons throwing the ball.

I think Butch learned that he better find SEC caliber assistants. I think our linebackers will play and be coached much better this year also. No one wants to be the weakest link. Thig knew he was safe as long as Martinez, Mahoney and Azzani were all there. Thig can recruit and coach. I think his fire will be back big time.
 
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Catbone said:
Funny how our receivers played better with a smaller rotation. Butch is learning
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Or they just got better as did our QB and play calling principles. I'm sure it helped but let's not act like that was our magic formula for improvement
Ohio st is out there pitching 6 man rotations to guys like trey Knox as a reason to get quick playing time vs other schools so it can work to have bigger rotations if talent is there although it's different to rotate several elite guys over rotating your stars for average guys like we had first few yrs
 
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Outofmyvolcanmind said:
He learned loyalty is overrated and he had to work daily with the group to see if what he was being told was what was going on. Butch can't micromanage each position group. When he did, we had breakout seasons throwing the ball.

I think Butch learned that he better find SEC caliber assistants. I think our linebackers will play and be coached much better this year also. No one wants to be the weakest link. Thig knew he was safe as long as Martinez, Mahoney and Azzani were all there. Thig can recruit and coach. I think his fire will be back big time.
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Hope so about Thig. Now that his recruiting is low, we're left with his teaching...and that hasn't been anything to sing about.
 
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butchna said:
Hope so about Thig. Now that his recruiting is low, we're left with his teaching...and that hasn't been anything to sing about.
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I agree. He was a machine a few years ago, he seemed to have fallen off a bit 🤔
 
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Nashvegas31 said:
Or they just got better as did our QB and play calling principles. I'm sure it helped but let's not act like that was our magic formula for improvement
Ohio st is out there pitching 6 man rotations to guys like trey Knox as a reason to get quick playing time vs other schools so it can work to have bigger rotations if talent is there although it's different to rotate several elite guys over rotating your stars for average guys like we had first few yrs
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http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/ohio-state/2016.html

i honestly had no clue, but JT Barrett threw for 400 less yards than Dobbs.
 
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Catbone said:
I agree. He was a machine a few years ago, he seemed to have fallen off a bit 🤔
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A lot of recruiting is relationships with high school coaches maybe the ones hes tight with arent producing elite players right now?
 
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