19 students, 3 adults dead in Texas elementary shooting.

[Vol8188]

Not sure what that is. But what happens if 2 or 3 year high school kids jump their teacher and take it?

This weird hypothetical, how often have you seen this? Are gangs of unarmed high schoolers attacking cops or other citizens they spot open carrying on a frequent basis in your imagination?

 

[zeppelin128]

The composition with a good father and good mother will always be the best.

Disagree completely. The stability of the home is what is important, not who lives in it.

 

[Vol8188]

So you admit thats not solving the problem, just 50% less kids dying.

Obviously 0 kids dying will never be an option.

 

[norrislakevol]

Those really are nice sentiments, but they are obviously not things which can be mandated. The reality is that nothing can be done to prevent these types of incidents. All we have is the hope that a spree shooting never impacts our own families directly...

Hardening the targets is the answer. Some mass shooters may just off themselves in the future if they cannot access the target or know that they will quickly be killed or injured if they attempt their evil plot.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

We aren't "creating" mentally ill people, my point was they now don't have as many options to get proper treatment. I'm not talking about self-help apps on your phone, I'm talking institutions where folks that need help can go and actually get help from trained professionals. We've gutted that part of health care for decades.

I think there is an element of truth in the country not properly addressing mental health. We've pulled resources away from there seems like and put it into law enforcement.

It isn't as simple as just blaming LGBTQ folks, like you are wont to do.

I blame the entire culture, not just LGBTQ. We have a toxic culture in this country and it affects our families and schools.

 

[C-south]

My conscience is clear. I support gun restrictions.

A lot of people here ought to be asking themselves some tough questions.

These instances are a reminder to carry mine more.

 

[wmcovol]

Today, I’ll pray for those families that won’t have a loved one to tuck in tonight. I’ll deal with the rest later.

 

[zeppelin128]

Yes

No

And as sure as the fact we are on Volnation, you continue to blame LGBTQ folks for every ill in society.

 

[joevol33]

Why are we creating so many mentally ill people suddenly? Is it because we are becoming crazier or is it because we are increasingly diagnosing people that may or may not be mentally ill? Or a bit of both?

I think medicine plays a role in some. I can't count how many people I know who have their kids on antidepressants, and some of those are horrible. Kid acts up 8n school, can't punish them anymore, so give them drugs. Heck, watch the commercials and side effects for any of them. I'm not saying some don't need them, but not everyone. My sister in law got mad at her daughters dr because he wouldn't put her daughter on them, and there wasn't any issues with her. She just wanted to "prevent " issues. I've known people who changed after taking certain things. One lady was normal until her dr told her she may need them because her dad was on them. 6 months, and she wouldn't even come outside of her house. You can't convince me that some of that stuff doesn't have a negative effect on the mentality of kids.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Sure. But if increasing the number of fathers in homes decreases violence, shouldn’t our policies encourage fathers be in the home?

The current welfare structures prevents that.

I would go a step further and add no fault divorce, family court, and the child support racket also add to the problem.

 

[norrislakevol]

Disagree completely. The stability of the home is what is important, not who lives in it.

Half right, the best option would be to have both parental units in the home and getting along decently.

 

[C-south]

Schools aren't the culture sacred ground they used to be. They've been vilified and drug through the mud collectively to the point that there's no cultural barrier that makes them unattractive.

They use to teach gun safety and now they ask kids if they’re a boy or a girl and their preferred pronouns.

 

[Vol8188]

I would go a step further and add no fault divorce, family court, and the child support racket also add to the problem.

I’ll add the sexual revolution and our new cultural attitudes towards sex and it’s disassociation with fatherhood/parenting.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

And as sure as the fact we are on Volnation, you continue to blame LGBTQ folks for every ill in society.

I don't blame LGBTQ for everything.

 

[AshG]

Gotd^mnit!!! I clearly f^^king said one man and one woman! WTF about that is doubletalk or euphemistic??!!

How exactly will that positively affect the situation? What operational change would that bring to the families? Spell it out. "One man, one woman" means nothing if you're not willing to go into detail.

 

[1vol8]

The more left this nation goes the more violent the outside world is becoming. If you can’t see that, you got your damn eyes closed willingly

 

[Vol8188]

How exactly will that positively affect the situation? What operational change would that bring to the families? Spell it out. "One man, one woman" means nothing if you're not willing to go into detail.

I’m curious what you think is different today than in 1950? I can’t make his argument for him. But I do know that you openly claimed he’s wanting more of a 1950s America.

Were these more or less common in 1950 and why?

 

[allvol123]

Scalia should rot in Hell for Heller.

What would you do to prevent this?

 

[zeppelin128]

Yet you support BLM who openly opposes that. You also support welfare which disincentivizes fathers in the home.

I've called out the organization structure of BLM a long, long time ago and admitted I was wrong about BLM as an organization. And yeah, I support helping people that might need some help, whether it is unemployment benefits while looking for a job, SNAP benefits to feed your kids if you need some help, etc. You act like I support "welfare" just for anybody for any given reason at all, which is very far from the truth. But please, carry on with your "mUh LiBeRaLs BaD" talking points.

 

[allvol123]

Disagree completely. The stability of the home is what is important, not who lives in it.

And the greatest stability is the best scenario, which is a quality mom and dad.

 

[lawgator1]

Look, I admit there is a legitimate debate to be had as what to do, but this is ridiculous. Some kind of REAL screening is needed before people can buy guns. It's totally out of control.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

How exactly will that positively affect the situation? What operational change would that bring to the families? Spell it out. "One man, one woman" means nothing if you're not willing to go into detail.

How much f^^king detail does it really take? Are you gaslighting me right now? One man and one woman raising a family has been the foundation American society before the past couple of decades.

 

[AshG]

They use to teach gun safety and now they ask kids if they’re a boy or a girl and their people preferred pronouns.

Funny, my kids' school system has gun clubs. Gun safety is still taught, especially in rural areas.

 

[1vol8]

Freaking donkypox is the real pandemic

 

[BreatheUT]

Uvalde, Texas school shooting: 14 students, one teacher killed, suspected shooter dead, Gov. Abbott says

May angels attend them to their reward in the presence of the Most High, and may the Comforter attend their families and friends in this difficult time.

There's a special place in hell for people like this. Too bad they killed him right away.

Someone knew this person was deranged.

Just leaves a bad taste in my mouth.