'19 TN CB Woodi Washington

[volthruitall]

Once again you can continue to state your OPINION. I'll just state FACTS.

As of right now, the FACTS say that the state of Tennessee has more 4 and 5 star players ranked in the classes of 2019 and 2020 than Alabama.

But go ahead and keep saying your opinions.

I'm going to try and help you out here, for starters, the FACTS that you are referring to are actually OPINIONS, and it makes it so bad because they're not even your opinion. I'm not trying to jump on you or stick up for anyone else or anything, we're all on the same team here, but you can not base everything off of someone else's opinion that they told you was a fact. The day before Jordan Young became a 4star, was it fact that he was a no star talent (or however many stars he was listed as)? No of course not.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

I’ll explain my point, because I think you’re skipping your reading comprehension classes.

You’ve talked about the immense talent on Tennessee’s team over the past several years, stating that it’s much better than Alabama’s, despite the 247 and Rivals rankings strongly disagreeing with you.

Now, you claim fact that the state of Tennessee is more talented by relying solely on the same rankings you have eschewed in the past. Thus the inconsistency.

But I know how you are, so I’m not sure why I would expect any kind of intellectual honesty.

I guess this is what desperation does. You are conflating 2 different things. Actual talent vs Perceived Talent.

I am not arguing right now that the state of Tennessee actually has more talent than Alabama or anywhere else. We haven't seen any of these guys play. I'm just telling you what the recruiting rankings say.

Once these guys start playing college football we'll know if they are actually as good as those rankings. I said the 2015 and 2016 Vols teams were the most talented in college football based on the eye test. I never said it was based on recruiting rankings. Right now all we can do on is the recruiting rankings.

But go ahead and keep conflating things cause you are losing the argument.

No matter what you say, the 247Sports rankings will still have more 4 and 5-star players from Tennessee in the classes of 2019 and 2020 than Alabama.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

I'm going to try and help you out here, for starters, the FACTS that you are referring to are actually OPINIONS, and it makes it so bad because they're not even your opinion. I'm not trying to jump on you or stick up for anyone else or anything, we're all on the same team here, but you can not base everything off of someone else's opinion that they told you was a fact. The day before Jordan Young became a 4star, was it fact that he was a no star talent (or however many stars he was listed as)? No of course not.

What the hell are you guys talking about? When have I stated on here that recruiting rankings are infallible?

All I said was that according to the recruiting rankings the state of Tennessee has more talent than Alabama in the classes of 2019 and 2020.

If you want to argue that recruiting rankings are not always right. Then I agree with you. I've regularly argued against people who take the rankings as infallible. However, the rankings are what they are. And that is all I'm stating.

According to the 2019 and 2020 recruiting rankings the state of Tennessee has more talent than Alabama and Louisiana. PERIOD.

 

[jason3713]

It's so odd how this state has so much trouble producing QB prospects. Literally never have one

Andy Kelly, Chad Pennington

 

[volnbama_]

You know nothing at all. What should I look at oh wise one? Alabama has about 4 kids that would be the No.1 player in the state of Tennessee if they were in the state. It is what it is big guy. Bo Nix, George Pickens, Pierce Quick and Tua’s brother would all be ranked No.1 in Tennessee. They are ridiculous...... Tennessee doesn’t even have a good QB in the state man. Smh Go look at the 2020 classes. There’s another Raekwon Davis level player right in Calera, Al. Kid is 6’6 322lbs and has Georgia, Bama offers in hand. He’s a DT as well. One in city school that Coynis Miller goes to has 3 power 5 LBs. One kid transferred in and got 5 SEC offers(Auburn, Bama, LSU, Ole Miss and Florida)in a week. Wonder where he’ll be ranked soon because he has no stars or ranking.

YOU know nothing troll.....

There are a lot great players down here that don’t get exposure. Jordan Howard had only a few offers out of high school and the kid could never be tackled.

 

[LaagerVol]

I’ll explain my point, because I think you’re skipping your reading comprehension classes.

You’ve talked about the immense talent on Tennessee’s team over the past several years, stating that it’s much better than Alabama’s, despite the 247 and Rivals rankings strongly disagreeing with you.

Now, you claim fact that the state of Tennessee is more talented by relying solely on the same rankings you have eschewed in the past. Thus the inconsistency.

But I know how you are, so I’m not sure why I would expect any kind of intellectual honesty.

Why would anyone argue with him?? Use his posts for comedy and nothing more.

 

[The Breakerboy]

There are a lot great players down here that don’t get exposure. Jordan Howard had only a few offers out of high school and the kid could never be tackled.

They don’t understand I guess.

That’s a kid that never got exposure but Hurd was a 5 Star from Tennessee so he’s a better RB right? According to the troll he is.

 

[The Breakerboy]

Andy Kelly, Chad Pennington

Birmingham alone has 5 guys that will all play power 5 football this year. Kid at Calera will have a Power 5 Offer soon. Phenix City QB has SEC offers too. That’s 6 QBs in one state and I haven’t even looked in the Mobile area.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

They don’t understand I guess.

That’s a kid that never got exposure but Hurd was a 5 Star from Tennessee so he’s a better RB right? According to the troll he is.

You can say that about kids in every state. Patrick Willis was a 2-star kid from Tennessee and went on to become a Hall of Fame NFL player.

Saying Alabama has more underrated prospects is simply your OPINION. If you have a study you can cite to support your claim that Alabama has a higher than usual number of underrated prospects than Tennessee then cool. But all you've done thus far is state opinions.

I have stated a simple fact. According to the recruiting rankings, the state of Tennessee has more talent than Alabama with regard to the 2019 and 2020 instate classes.

 

[The Breakerboy]

You can say that about kids in every state. Patrick Willis was a 2-star kid from Tennessee and went on to become a Hall of Fame NFL player.

Saying Alabama has more underrated prospects is simply your OPINION. If you have a study you can cite to support your claim that Alabama has a higher than usual number of underrated prospects than Tennessee then cool. But all you've done thus far is state opinions.

I have stated a simple fact. According to the recruiting rankings, the state of Tennessee has more talent than Alabama with regard to the 2019 and 2020 instate classes.

Okay let’s do this.....

Right now on both teams, In-State contributors.....

Alabama: Payne, Mack Wilson, Rashaan Evans, Shaun Dion Hamilton, Bo Scarborough, Henry Ruggs, Anfernee Jennings(#33 who killed Clemson), Lester Cotton

Tennessee: Bituli, Gaulden, Robertson

What other guys from this past season were there on Tennessee roster from Tennessee? And look at the level of players they are. Stop this madness.....

 

[Dooby15]

Just going to drop in and remind everyone that D4H said Emmanuel Mosley would be a high draft pick and BB said that Tua tagovailoa was too small to play QB this past year.

I’ll see myself out.

 

[The Breakerboy]

Just going to drop in and remind everyone that D4H said Emmanuel Mosley would be a high draft pick and BB said that Tua tagovailoa was too small to play QB this past year.

I’ll see myself out.

I said they didn’t play him because he probably wouldn’t have held up all year. He’s not a big kid and they weren’t protecting the QB well early in the year. Have you seen him in person? He’s a kid that needs some weight on him. He played a half of football man. Why didn’t he play him versus Auburn? The offense looked the same as the UGA game.

 

[jakez4ut]

just going to drop in and remind everyone that d4h said emmanuel mosley would be a high draft pick and bb said that tua tagovailoa was too small to play qb this past year.

I’ll see myself out.

 

[Blake25p]

I said they didn’t play him because he probably wouldn’t have held up all year. He’s not a big kid and they weren’t protecting the QB well early in the year. Have you seen him in person? He’s a kid that needs some weight on him. He played a half of football man. Why didn’t he play him versus Auburn? The offense looked the same as the UGA game.

Idk man, he looked pretty thick to me. Especially in the lower half.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

Okay let’s do this.....

Right now on both teams, In-State contributors.....

Alabama: Payne, Mack Wilson, Rashaan Evans, Shaun Dion Hamilton, Bo Scarborough, Henry Ruggs, Anfernee Jennings(#33 who killed Clemson), Lester Cotton

Tennessee: Bituli, Gaulden, Robertson

What other guys from this past season were there on Tennessee roster from Tennessee? And look at the level of players they are. Stop this madness.....

Why are you talking to me about RIGHT NOW?

I'm talking to you about the 2019 and 2020 classes.

Last I checked, I never made the argument that the state of Tennessee has produced more talent than Alabama IN THE PAST. And for the record neither have the sites that rank recruits. The 2019 and 2020 mark the first time the state of Tennessee has had this amount of elite prospects.

I'm not talking about the past. I'm talking about the future.

 

[The Breakerboy]

Idk man, he looked pretty thick to me. Especially in the lower half.

I’ve been on the field next to him. He’s built like a WR at the moment. The line wasn’t blocking well enough to let him get blasted first year. He will hold on to the ball to make a play. That leaves him vulnerable. He’s so much better than Hurts in practice it’s ridiculous. He was just small. He doesn’t have to be huge but kid needs another offseason to take the hits from a full year of SEC play. IMO

 

[The Breakerboy]

Why are you talking to me about RIGHT NOW?

I'm talking to you about the 2019 and 2020 classes.

Last I checked, I never made the argument that the state of Tennessee has produced more talent than Alabama IN THE PAST. And for the record neither have the sites that rank recruits. The 2019 and 2020 mark the first time the state of Tennessee has had this amount of elite prospects.

I'm not talking about the past. I'm talking about the future.

Who are the top 2020 Tennessee prospects? Lawrence and who else?

 

[Big Gucci Sosa]

BB - Vols have a good shot at Woodi?

 

[The Breakerboy]

BB - Vols have a good shot at Woodi?

I offer no recruiting insight on guys I work with in any capacity. Glad they offered

 

[Big Gucci Sosa]

Fair enough.

 

[Blake25p]

I’ve been on the field next to him. He’s built like a WR at the moment. The line wasn’t blocking well enough to let him get blasted first year. He will hold on to the ball to make a play. That leaves him vulnerable. He’s so much better than Hurts in practice it’s ridiculous. He was just small. He doesn’t have to be huge but kid needs another offseason to take the hits from a full year of SEC play. IMO

I’ll defer to you on that one, they do say the camera adds 10lbs. It was obvious to me that Tua was the better QB when I saw the spring game.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

What are the top 2020 Tennessee prospects? Lawrence and who else?

Go look up 247Sports. They are the only site that has players in the 2020 class ranked. Right now they only have the top 110 players nationally ranked.

And of those top 110 players, the state of Tennessee has 8 players ranked. That is 5th most in the country after Florida, Texas, Georgia, and California. For comparisons sake, the state of Alabama has only 3 players in the top 110 of the class of 2020.

2020 Top Tennessee Football Recruits


2020 Top Alabama Football Recruits

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

According to 247sports, Keshawn Lawrence is only the 4th best player in the state of Tennessee for the class of 2020.

 

[The Breakerboy]

Go look up 247Sports. They are the only site that has players in the 2020 class ranked. Right now they only have the top 110 players nationally ranked.

And of those top 110 players, the state of Tennessee has 8 players ranked. That is 5th most in the country after Florida, Texas, Georgia, and California. For comparisons sake, the state of Alabama has only 3 players in the top 110 of the class of 2020.

2020 Top Tennessee Football Recruits


2020 Top Alabama Football Recruits

Jake Wray doesn’t even stay in Tennessee so how old is this list man?

That WR is definitely not better than Keshawn. 😂😂😂😂

I saw them both this past weekend. Keshawn has been playing basketball and is still a much better player. 😂😂😂😂

The 2020 class for Bama best players aren’t even on here. They’ve got big offers as well. 😂😂😂😂

 

[LaagerVol]

Okay let’s do this.....

Right now on both teams, In-State contributors.....

Alabama: Payne, Mack Wilson, Rashaan Evans, Shaun Dion Hamilton, Bo Scarborough, Henry Ruggs, Anfernee Jennings(#33 who killed Clemson), Lester Cotton

Tennessee: Bituli, Gaulden, Robertson

What other guys from this past season were there on Tennessee roster from Tennessee? And look at the level of players they are. Stop this madness.....

As much as you tell others to ignore him, now you’re gonna feed the troll??