'20 FL SF Corey Walker (Committed 3/3/2019)

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BruinVol said:
Do yourself a favor and read my post where is said “more likely “
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obviously anyone who is willing to fork up the Money loves the game, but that doesn’t mean they love the game more than others. Some can’t afford to play AAU. AAU is bad for developing players too. I find it much more impressive for a kid to spend their time in a gym working on their gym than a kid who is basically playing in an all star game.
 
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Dallasbowlin said:
obviously anyone who is willing to fork up the Money loves the game, but that doesn’t mean they love the game more than others. Some can’t afford to play AAU. AAU is bad for developing players too. I find it much more impressive for a kid to spend their time in a gym working on their gym than a kid who is basically playing in an all star game.
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Was this the google you were after ?

I mean it sure seems to be Kobe thinks playing AAU is important here

Kobe called out one of his AAU players for missing game for a dance recital 2 years ago
 
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Would seem to me a kid opting to go to Hargrave Academy early, where he will be ran through daily workouts in as close to a college program as you can get, and with absolutely no exposure is more evidence for love of the game than parading around AAU events and when the star of your team showing up for games and rarely practices and being broadcasted on TV, ESPN, live streams etc in front of hundreds of coaches...JMO
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Would seem to me a kid opting to go to Hargrave Academy early, where he will be ran through daily workouts in as close to a college program as you can get, and with absolutely no exposure is more evidence for love of the game than parading around AAU events and when the star of your team showing up for games and rarely practices and being broadcasted on TV, ESPN, live streams etc in front of hundreds of coaches...JMO
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That’s why I ask for details before I gave my opinion on the matter.

I am curious what most other Hargrove players have done??
 
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BruinVol said:
don’t play stupid?

lol Kobe was running a massive AAU basketball organization and obviously he found it important
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Yup, and I guarantee you Kobe’s team was one of the only teams that played (and practiced) the righT way.
 
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BruinVol said:
Dear Lord have mercy


So smoking crack, when do it right is a good thing ?



My oh my you need to stop please
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That was not at all what I was saying and you know it. There’s no sense in continuing this conversation if you seriously can’t tell what I was saying.
 
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Dallasbowlin said:
That was not at all what I was saying and you know it. There’s no sense in continuing this conversation if you seriously can’t tell what I was saying.
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Yea I can’t tell what you are saying


I mean you tried to say a man that founded a huge AAU operation and took it very seriously didn’t think AAU was important

So no I have no idea what you are saying and to be honest you don’t either
 
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BruinVol said:
That’s why I ask for details before I gave my opinion on the matter.

I am curious what most other Hargrove players have done??
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Regardless of what they did (idk that answer), going to Hargrave instead of AAU to me would appear to be more about love of the game than opting for AAU.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Regardless of what they did (idk that answer), going to Hargrave instead of AAU to me would appear to be more about love of the game than opting for AAU.
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Reasonable post


And even more so if most of their other players don’t play AAU. I’d like to know the answer to that
 
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BruinVol said:
Reasonable post


And even more so if most of their other players don’t play AAU. I’d like to know the answer to that
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Not sure why that matters? If Hargrave gives kids the choice, and more kids took the “easy” way and played AAU and enjoyed the exposure and “big shot treatment” over sweating their asses off in an empty gym in rural Virginia, how that means they love the game more? I again would lean quite the opposite direction.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Not sure why that matters? If Hargrave gives kids the choice, and more kids took the “easy” way and played AAU and enjoyed the exposure and “big shot treatment” over sweating their asses off in an empty gym in rural Virginia, how that means they love the game more? I again would lean quite the opposite direction.
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Sweating their ass off in an empty gym for a few hours and having the rest of the summer days for free time and recreation is exactly why some kids decide the time commitment to traveling and playing all over the country just isn’t worth it. I get it life isn’t always about basketball and I can respect that.
 
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BruinVol said:
Sweating their ass off in an empty gym for a few hours and having the rest of the summer days for free time and recreation is exactly why some kids decide the time commitment to traveling and playing all over the country just isn’t worth it. I get it life isn’t always about basketball and I can respect that.
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Living at Hargrave and traveling? Maybe you aren’t familiar with their set up. Walker wasn’t traveling around enjoying recreation, he would’ve been on their campus working out daily and going through drills. With AAU this star players rarely practice at all with their team, they travel around for 5-6 weekends through the summer, getting national exposure, nice hotels and meals, and treated like D1 players...I would say AAU is much more “fun” than Hargrave Academy.
 
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BruinVol said:
Sweating their ass off in an empty gym for a few hours and having the rest of the summer days for free time and recreation is exactly why some kids decide the time commitment to traveling and playing all over the country just isn’t worth it. I get it life isn’t always about basketball and I can respect that.
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I think the point was that Walker opted to skip the fanfare of playing in front of others in favor of developing his craft under the tutelage of trained teachers of the game in a secluded environment where he wasn't in front of cameras. His sole purpose was to get better at the game of basketball, not putting on a show.

If the argument is a debate over his love for the game, then putting in the work behind the scenes away from your family with no credit or game tape to show for it certainly qualifies. Not sure what kind of free time and recreation you believe exists for kids who attend Hargrave Military Academy in Chatham, VA, but I can assure it is most likely less than those of the kids travelling around the country playing AAU ball.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Living at Hargrave and traveling? Maybe you aren’t familiar with their set up. Walker wasn’t traveling around enjoying recreation, he would’ve been on their campus working out daily and going through drills. With AAU this star players rarely practice at all with their team, they travel around for 5-6 weekends through the summer, getting national exposure, nice hotels and meals, and treated like D1 players...I would say AAU is much more “fun” than Hargrave Academy.
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Look their are truths on both sides. If Hargrave coaches encourage their players to stay on campus to develop skills opposed to playing AAU then I agree with all you say.
 
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BruinVol said:
Look their are truths on both sides. If Hargrave coaches encourage their players to stay on campus to develop skills opposed to playing AAU then I agree with all you say.
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I'd find it more impressive if Walker made the decision on his own, rather than being persuaded by Hargrave coaches. It takes a level of maturity and self-dedication to voluntarily skip the fanfare and travel of AAU for working in a gym a thousand miles from your family just to hone your skills.
 
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cncchris33 said:
I'd find it more impressive if Walker made the decision on his own, rather than being persuaded by Hargrave coaches. It takes a level of maturity and self-dedication to voluntarily skip the fanfare and travel of AAU for working in a gym a thousand miles from your family just to hone your skills.
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Sorry that’s where I disagree. I’ve seen many many athletes over the years use the “working out on my own” line over choosing playing the sport with teammates as an excuse to have extra free time. It’s very often a sign that their commitment is low for their sport.


It’s also very easy for a player to
Use that line once they commit somewhere. They sense of accomplishment outweighs the desire to put in the commitment.


I’ve been to AAU events with multiple games being played and I’m sorry I don’t but the glamorous talk of him giving up the “bright lights”
 
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cncchris33 said:
I think the point was that Walker opted to skip the fanfare of playing in front of others in favor of developing his craft under the tutelage of trained teachers of the game in a secluded environment where he wasn't in front of cameras. His sole purpose was to get better at the game of basketball, not putting on a show.

If the argument is a debate over his love for the game, then putting in the work behind the scenes away from your family with no credit or game tape to show for it certainly qualifies. Not sure what kind of free time and recreation you believe exists for kids who attend Hargrave Military Academy in Chatham, VA, but I can assure it is most likely less than those of the kids travelling around the country playing AAU ball.
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Exactly what I was saying, just better said...and as for the bolded, bingo...these kids are getting to meet NBA players, get tons of high end shoes and apparel, typically visiting tourist attractions in the cities they travel to, eating better than most adults do etc.
 
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BruinVol said:
Sorry that’s where I disagree. I’ve seen many many athletes over the years use the “working out on my own” line over choosing playing the sport with teammates as an excuse to have extra free time. It’s very often a sign that their commitment is low for their sport.


It’s also very easy for a player to
Use that line once they commit somewhere. They sense of accomplishment outweighs the desire to put in the commitment.


I’ve been to AAU events with multiple games being played and I’m sorry I don’t but the glamorous talk of him giving up the “bright lights”
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Feel free to disagree, but I promise you are in the minority.

And it isn't like he is choosing to workout in his driveway with his dad for a couple hours a day. He picked up his life and moved a thousand miles from home to spend his summer months in Chatham, VA, being coached by actual professionals.

I'm stunned that you find that to be the "easy route" between the two options.
 
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cncchris33 said:
Feel free to disagree, but I promise you are in the minority.

And it isn't like he is choosing to workout in his driveway with his dad for a couple hours a day. He picked up his life and moved a thousand miles from home to spend his summer months in Chatham, VA, being coached by actual professionals.

I'm stunned that you find that to be the "easy route" between the two options.
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I agree being at hargrave is very different than being at home


That’s why I have asked when he got there, what other players do there in the summers, and was this his choice.
 
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