2014 Season Bottom line

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Bottom line is 7-6 including a bowl win. Anything less and the coaching staff will need some overhauling. Blah, blah, but, but it's still Dooley's players, we don't have depth or talent excuses are gone. We used them this past season. The excuses just mentioned will not be able to cover up bad coaching especially since we look to land a top 5 recruiting class for 2014.
 
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But but but. We'll have training wheels on both lines of scrimmage. We're young. They've had five classes to build depth. These are just a few of the built in excuses. I want to see some improvement next year regardless.. No year zero and no 5 year rebuild projects. Get it done. Not expecting miracles ,at least a bowl game please.
 
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Stone Cold reference aside, its going to take more than this class to turn this around. I do expect to win a few more games next year but don't think we will compete for the east.
 
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govols105 said:
Bottom line is 7-6 including a bowl win. Anything less and the coaching staff will need some overhauling. Blah, blah, but, but it's still Dooley's players, we don't have depth or talent excuses are gone. We used them this past season. The excuses just mentioned will not be able to cover up bad coaching especially since we look to land a top 5 recruiting class for 2014.
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I'm guessing you expect this recruiting class to step right on the field and compete with juniors and seniors on other teams that were ranked just as high when they were freshman. I like it! I knew experience and years in the weight room was a lame excuse but I was never able to validate it. Thanks for clearing it up.
 
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Yeah we have to make a bowl, no excuses. The staff cannot pull the "we are young" on either the O or D line. Additionally, GA, SCAR, & Mizzou have to replace their QBs. The schedule will always be brutal but nothing like the 2013 schedule.
 
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PEPPERJAX said:
Yeah we have to make a bowl, no excuses. The staff cannot pull the "we are young" on either the O or D line. Additionally, GA, SCAR, & Mizzou have to replace their QBs. The schedule will always be brutal but nothing like the 2013 schedule.
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The Mauck feller that torched us won't be back at Mizzou next year?
 
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PEPPERJAX said:
Yeah we have to make a bowl, no excuses. The staff cannot pull the "we are young" on either the O or D line. Additionally, GA, SCAR, & Mizzou have to replace their QBs. The schedule will always be brutal but nothing like the 2013 schedule.
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You do realize that we are basically replacing our whole O and D lines right? We are going to be young on both sides of the ball.
 
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OP, if you're telling me that we finish 6-6 in the regular season and you expect most on this board to be ok with that, you are sorely mistaken. There will be more fire Butch threads than you can possible imagine. I mean, we're dealing with the most irrational fanbase in college football ya know.
 
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govols105 said:
Bottom line is 7-6 including a bowl win. Anything less and the coaching staff will need some overhauling. Blah, blah, but, but it's still Dooley's players, we don't have depth or talent excuses are gone. We used them this past season. The excuses just mentioned will not be able to cover up bad coaching especially since we look to land a top 5 recruiting class for 2014.
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this over hauling of coaching staff's has been working out very well for the last 6 years I would say.. :unsure:
 
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Yeah, don't you guys know that these freshman are suppose to be able to come in and beat anyone? It doesn't matter that other teams have had just as good of recruiting classes the last three years and their guys will be 22-23 years old. Have had three years in the same system and have had three years of college workout programs. Our group of 18-19 year olds are already as good as they will ever be and can compete with anyone the first day they set foot on campus.
 
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fade route said:
OP, if you're telling me that we finish 6-6 in the regular season and you expect most on this board to be ok with that, you are sorely mistaken. There will be more fire Butch threads than you can possible imagine. I mean, we're dealing with the most irrational fanbase in college football ya know.
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Irrational is thinking that 6-6 would not be a pretty good coaching job next year... and thinking that 5-7 WAS a good coaching job this year.

Next year is tough to predict because there are just so many unknowns. The OL and DL are definitely unknowns. Even though the secondary returns almost every contributor... it is still an unknown. LB is an unknown. WR is still young and really returns no one that was a consistent playmaker... not even North. No one really emerged at TE. Lane is more or less a known quantity but no one else at RB is.

The biggest unknown is that almost half of UT's roster will be guys signed in Feb 14. There is no way to know how much they will contribute or how soon.

This season UT had a 7 win roster. Six wins would have been treading water. Five wins was an underachievement. Next year looks a game worse than this year based on inexperience and lack of development since so many new players will play key roles.

Winning six next year will be the coaching equivalent of 7 this year... which would have demonstrated these coaches can produce more than the sum of the talent of a roster.
 
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sjt18 said:
Irrational is thinking that 6-6 would not be a pretty good coaching job next year... and thinking that 5-7 WAS a good coaching job this year.

Next year is tough to predict because there are just so many unknowns. The OL and DL are definitely unknowns. Even though the secondary returns almost every contributor... it is still an unknown. LB is an unknown. WR is still young and really returns no one that was a consistent playmaker... not even North. No one really emerged at TE. Lane is more or less a known quantity but no one else at RB is.

The biggest unknown is that almost half of UT's roster will be guys signed in Feb 14. There is no way to know how much they will contribute or how soon.

This season UT had a 7 win roster. Six wins would have been treading water. Five wins was an underachievement. Next year looks a game worse than this year based on inexperience and lack of development since so many new players will play key roles.

Winning six next year will be the coaching equivalent of 7 this year... which would have demonstrated these coaches can produce more than the sum of the talent of a roster.
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Who said 5-7 was a good coaching job this year?
 
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volfan_89 said:
You do realize that we are basically replacing our whole O and D lines right? We are going to be young on both sides of the ball.
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Will the o line be as young as it was when Doolander took over in 2010? That 2010 line started 3 true freshmen in Stone, Fulton, and James and we still managed to make a lower tier bowl. The D line is returning some experienced players with a nice mixture of talented players coming in the 2014 class, and most likely three of those players coming in will be JUCO D lineman who should make an immediate impact.
 
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LWSVOL said:
this over hauling of coaching staff's has been working out very well for the last 6 years I would say.. :unsure:
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Can you point to a program that kept a coach with a losing record after 3 years that rose to championships? If you can, it would be an anomaly.

You are like a guru around these chat boards but surely you aren't suggesting that it is better to keep coaches who are subpar performers than to take a chance on replacing them with someone better?
 
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Eh, most people here said anything less than 6-6 this season would be subpar. But then, after Butch went 5-7, most of them decided that was a job well done. Butch could go 3-9 next year and the sheep on here will find some excuse to defend him.
 
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fade route said:
Who said 5-7 was a good coaching job this year?
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Kidding? There have been whole threads dedicated to that very idea. I have been called a negavol, troll, yada, yada, yada for nothing more than saying it was an underachievement by the coaching staff.

Have you really missed that much in the threads you've been posting in?
 
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govols105 said:
Bottom line is 7-6 including a bowl win. Anything less and the coaching staff will need some overhauling. Blah, blah, but, but it's still Dooley's players, we don't have depth or talent excuses are gone. We used them this past season. The excuses just mentioned will not be able to cover up bad coaching especially since we look to land a top 5 recruiting class for 2014.
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I bet you hope your rite. so many on here want to point out the negative and try and call it and spend a year running it into the dirt.
 
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