2018 Recruiting Class

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Or could be Williams and Holly don't know this physic poster and she truly hasnt decided and we would be idiots to not recruit all the top players who are interested in us. Like Cox was a Notre Dame lock according to another in the know poster. No one knows but her and her family everyone else is just guessing and like Westbrook minds change.
 
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Chitownvol1129 said:
Or could be Williams and Holly don't know this physic poster and she truly hasnt decided and we would be idiots to not recruit all the top players who are interested in us. Like Cox was a Notre Dame lock according to another in the know poster. No one knows but her and her family everyone else is just guessing and like Westbrook minds change.
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I don't claim to be a "physic"....and I really do not care if you believe me or not but the girl wants to go to UCONN, and that's exactly where she's going at the end of the day. I KNOW!
 
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ladyvosl23 said:
Braine Alexander and Cambridge both committed to Vanderbilt today were we even recruiting them hard
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They are both guard/wings and we have the three freshman this year, jazmine committed for next year , along with Balogun, Brown, Decosta, Nicoletti, and Williams still being heavily recruited. I think they know TN is in a good position to land at least two of those 5 perimeter players if not 3 of the 5. It was a good move for those players and a Vandy education is hard to pass up! I know people want TN to sign every top 100 from TN but it's just not possible. I know we missed out on Dangerfield but we got Hayes and a if commit from Massengill which COULD go a long ways in getting Balogun, a top 2020 player in Treasure Hunt, and their 6'6" canter who all play at the same school. If it holds true as the sisters said (even though they can change their mind) we would have a Hayes sister coming in 2019 and 2020 also and they both can play as well and they are taller than Annie and if they can keep progressing they will be good and bring different skills sets to the team.
 
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VA_VOLFAN said:
They are both guard/wings and we have the three freshman this year, jazmine committed for next year , along with Balogun, Brown, Decosta, Nicoletti, and Williams still being heavily recruited. I think they know TN is in a good position to land at least two of those 5 perimeter players if not 3 of the 5. It was a good move for those players and a Vandy education is hard to pass up! I know people want TN to sign every top 100 from TN but it's just not possible. I know we missed out on Dangerfield but we got Hayes and a if commit from Massengill which COULD go a long ways in getting Balogun, a top 2020 player in Treasure Hunt, and their 6'6" canter who all play at the same school. If it holds true as the sisters said (even though they can change their mind) we would have a Hayes sister coming in 2019 and 2020 also and they both can play as well and they are taller than Annie and if they can keep progressing they will be good and bring different skills sets to the team.
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Regarding the Hayes sisters, I hope we avoid the Samuelson situation lol. Where the youngest, ends up being the best and #1 player and decides not to follow her sisters to Stanford, even passing up a chance to play with her sister. I think she made a good decision to play in Connecticut, I just hope this situation doesn't happen with us lol.
 
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ladyvosl23 said:
Braine Alexander and Cambridge both committed to Vanderbilt today were we even recruiting them hard
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Nahhhhh we only want the top ten or someone rated higher than 22 & 57. You know like we did on 2016! We all know how that went!
 
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tennparker3 said:
We didn't lose Crystal. She was never going anywhere but UConn.

Balogun is the only other state of Tennessee recruit I see us going after because of the other recruits being targeted... most notably Decosta, Nicolletti (both are at a level higher than any of the 7 top 100 Tennessee recruits) and Morgan Jones out of Georgia along with Amaya Brown out of New Mexico. Christyn Williams remains a primary target as well but it has long been believed she is a solid lean to UConn.

Tennessee is full of talented players, but the Lady Vols have long recruited at a national level and that's going to negate the amount of homegrown talent we go after... often because the staff can identify a player from Georgia or California or Oregon that is a better fit than whatever player it is from Tennessee.
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This is the post that I was referring to of only going after top ranked players.... instead of the seven rated players in Tennessee.

We got a verbal from Jasmine..... and Balogun is the last one rated from Tennessee! I hope we land some of those Top players???

Williams and Nicolletti were the top guards we want instead of those Tennessee girls???
 
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PRG said:
This is the post that I was referring to of only going after top ranked players.... instead of the seven rated players in Tennessee.

We got a verbal from Jasmine..... and Balogun is the last one rated from Tennessee! I hope we land some of those Top players???

Williams and Nicolletti were the top guards we want instead of those Tennessee girls???
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So you're the coach. You want to sign only two more guards (you've already got one guard to commit) but four guards show really high interest in your program. Two are rated in the top 5 and are from out of state. The other two are 30 and 40 but in-state. Are you telling us you take the 30 and 40 if they want to commit now and tell the two top 5's no thanks?

And that's not to bash if that's your preference. Recruiting top players is a balancing act. If you wait too long, you can miss out.
 
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PRG said:
This is the post that I was referring to of only going after top ranked players.... instead of the seven rated players in Tennessee.

We got a verbal from Jasmine..... and Balogun is the last one rated from Tennessee! I hope we land some of those Top players???

Williams and Nicolletti were the top guards we want instead of those Tennessee girls???
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Where in my post does it say anything about "only going after top rated players?"

The point being made was that a coaching staff from any school that is recruiting on a national level is not just going to automatically take local players because of their ranking in the top 10, 50, 100 or 200. They will identify recruits by interest, fit, academics and so on. There are a lot of factors that go into offering scholarships other than 'oh you're from this state so here is a schollie for you.'

2016 was a big miss on the recruiting front, everybody including the coaching staff acknowledges it and there were public and private actions taken to rectify the shortcomings of the recruiting woes. Since then we landed 4 players that more importantly than ranking all address specific needs and have secured to commits from the 2018 class. Other than Hoopgurlz, both Massengill and Collins are ranked in the top 15 of their class by every other recruiting service (at least as of March) but they too were recruited because of much more than just ranking and location.

Amaya Brown for instance is not nearly well known as some other recruits but she is being as heavily recruited by Tennessee as Nicoletti and Williams because the coaching staff has identified her as the type of player they want for their system and she has high interest in the Lady Vols as we are in her final 4 schools.

Balogun, Amaya Brown, Izabel Nicoletti, Morgan Jones, Honesty Grayson, and Christyn Williams are the main recruiting targets for perimeter players to go with Massengill.

Decosta, Nelson-Ododa and Victaria Saxton are all targets for front court players to go with Collins.

Our recruiting looks nothing like 2016. We already have 2 recruits and are in very good standing with other targets. Also, the coaching staff has cast a much wider net so the hopes of the recruiting results don't rest on 1 or 2 players.

Hopefully this makes it much clearer for you as to why there is no need to be married to the idea that any decent player from Tennessee that doesn't end up in Knoxville is some huge failure.
 
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Also to clarify, when I say Nicoletti and Decosta are at a higher level than any of the 7 top 100 Tennessee recruits it has nothing to do with rankings and everything to do with each one being easily identified as the top player at their positions in the class. Rankings are merely a reflection of the obvious observation of talent. If there were no ranking services Nicoletti and Decosta would still be prime targets because any casual observer can clearly see their elite level talent. AND, most importantly, they both have strong interest in the Lady Vols (Nicoletti makes her third trip to Knoxville in June with her parents) and Decosta will visit in the fall.
 
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"Most notably: Decosta , Nicoletti ( Both are at a higher level than any of the 7 top 100 Tennessee recruits). The semantics of my using ranked and your higher level are at the root of our misunderstanding!!!

"Tennessee is full of talented players but the lady vols have long recruited at a NATIONAL LEVEL and that is going to negate the amount of homegrown talent we go after." Semantics and understanding what is written and what is the meaning???

2018 We will have seven players if no one else transfers!!! Verbals (That are not binding) to two players. We have Eight scholarships and seven players! Vandy, Kentucky, and Georgia Tech just took five players from Tennessee and gave them scholarships! Somebody thinks they deserve a scholarship? I hope your strategy works?? 🤔
 
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PRG said:
"Most notably: Decosta , Nicoletti ( Both are at a higher level than any of the 7 top 100 Tennessee recruits). The semantics of my using ranked and your higher level are at the root of our misunderstanding!!!

"Tennessee is full of talented players but the lady vols have long recruited at a NATIONAL LEVEL and that is going to negate the amount of homegrown talent we go after." Semantics and understanding what is written and what is the meaning???

2018 We will have seven players if no one else transfers!!! Verbals (That are not binding) to two players. We have Eight scholarships and seven players! Vandy, Kentucky, and Georgia Tech just took five players from Tennessee and gave them scholarships! Somebody thinks they deserve a scholarship? I hope your strategy works?? ��
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I did clarify my higher level statement. Decosta and Nicoletti are identified as more important targets for the staff than many of the recruits from the state because of overall fit, not just because of location and what a ranking service ranks them. You keep harping on Tennessee girls going elsewhere as a potential embarrassment in future matchups and questioning why or if we went or are going after them. I'm giving you explanations that point out why we aren't just signing every decent Tennessee player that comes along. That strategy will never translate into winning, regardless of who is the coach.

And I gave you a clear example of national level recruiting that has nothing to do with rankings and location with Amaya Brown and because we are going after her and a host of other guards from other states it means that the interest level in Tennessee recruits is going to be negated because there are players the coaching staff thinks are better than what the state has to offer.

As far as 2018 we are likely to sign a large class even if we don't get another Tennessee girl. Juco ranks are also a likely target and Reaves brings a lot of connections necessary to successfully recruit from the top Juco programs. Having a roster of 11 or 12 is the goal for 2018.
 
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tennparker3 said:
I did clarify my higher level statement. Decosta and Nicoletti are identified as more important targets for the staff than many of the recruits from the state because of overall fit, not just because of location and what a ranking service ranks them. You keep harping on Tennessee girls going elsewhere as a potential embarrassment in future matchups and questioning why or if we went or are going after them. I'm giving you explanations that point out why we are just signing every decent Tennessee player that comes along. That strategy will never translate into winning, regardless of who is the coach.

And I gave you a clear example of national level recruiting that has nothing to do with rankings and location with Amaya Brown and because we are going after her and a host of other guards from other states it means that the interest level in Tennessee recruits is going to be negated because there are players the coaching staff thinks are better than what the state has to offer.

As far as 2018 we are likely to sign a large class even if we don't get another Tennessee girl. Juco ranks are also a likely target and Reaves brings a lot of connections necessary to successfully recruit from the top Juco programs. Having a roster of 11 or 12 is the goal for 2018.
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Your post @01:21 PM on 5/21 was the one which confused me with my (highly ranked) and your (high level) .

Your clarifying was 04:02 Am on 5/28 and 04:10 Am 5/28. Almost a full week later? Thanks for clarifying? I have just one other question! How does all three of these post have it being your #142 post and a week difference? Plus your post today 5/29 has #142??
My post usually advance one number every time I post?? Just asking? 🤔

Sorry..... just looked at my post and those numbers must mean something else???? I thought they went up with each post! My mistake!!!
 
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MandyLeanne92 said:
Most likely UCLA or FSU.
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Her final four are TCU, Tennessee, UCLA and FSU but yes, it sounds like FSU and UCLA are one of the likely choice for her school. Those are the two she has taken unofficial visits to.

Tennessee has been in very good standing with her for awhile, especially since Holly and staff stuck with her through her knee injury.

Sounds like FSU or UCLA did enough for her make up her mind earlier than she anticipated.

Other guards of note that we are recruiting are Zarielle Green (6'0, TX), Jordan Nixon (5'9, NY), Janai Crooms (5'9, RI) and Zipporah Broughton (5'9, AL).

Green is a player I really like and would be versatile being able to play multiple perimeter positions (something we will need after Diamond and Jaime leave and MeMe will be the only perimeter upperclassman).

I would say we still try to get 1 or 2 more guards and at least 2 wing/forward types.
 
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tennparker3 said:
Her final four are TCU, Tennessee, UCLA and FSU but yes, it sounds like FSU and UCLA are one of the likely choice for her school. Those are the two she has taken unofficial visits to.

Tennessee has been in very good standing with her for awhile, especially since Holly and staff stuck with her through her knee injury.

Sounds like FSU or UCLA did enough for her make up her mind earlier than she anticipated.

Other guards of note that we are recruiting are Zarielle Green (6'0, TX), Jordan Nixon (5'9, NY), Janai Crooms (5'9, RI) and Zipporah Broughton (5'9, AL).

Green is a player I really like and would be versatile being able to play multiple perimeter positions (something we will need after Diamond and Jaime leave and MeMe will be the only perimeter upperclassman).

I would say we still try to get 1 or 2 more guards and at least 2 wing/forward types.
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Do you think Jasmine is a wing even though listed as point? What about Balogun?

I saw Nixon play with Patterson in Nashville last year! Muffin and Geno and I . I was the one wearing the UT hat. 😁 Patterson wanted to play the guard / wing instead of inside? Nixon played aggressive with good outside shot on wing/corners.

Do you really think we can get a Texas girl?
 
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