2020 Presidential Race

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BowlBrother85 said:
I'm sorry but there is no such CBS/YouGov poll that shows Trump with a lead over Biden among independents. The latest CBS/YouGov poll does show Biden with a ten point lead over Trump: 52%-42%. Biden has also widened his lead in Wisconsin and Pennsylvania.
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Here is the link..my issue with it is methodology...42% Dem 30% GOP that seems off
 
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Matt2496 said:
Things going on in Democrat-run cities:

Fires set, windows broken, arrests made Saturday night in downtown Denver

Portland police declare riot after fire set at precinct

Kenosha car dealership targeted by rioters during overnight protest

66 shot, 5 fatally, this weekend in Chicago

Wayzata man charged in arson at Wells Fargo branch during Minneapolis riots
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Let's go out and vote for more Democrats for their great leadership. They lead so well by example and take care of their citizens far better than those racists Republicans do. Vote Democrat. You will live better & longer.
 
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johnsonbrewer said:
You missed the 20,000 lies part?

Not a Biden fan. But I'm not P.T. Barnum's sucker either.
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It’s hilarious that you buy into the 20K lies BS but don’t seem to question if you’re being told the truth on that or not. What’s more likely? That the MSM, who has been shown to be quite the liars themselves on a regular and repeated basis, is telling the truth about Trump lying 20,000 times in just over 1,200 days or that maybe the MSM is incorrect about a person lying more than 15 times a day for a period of more than 1,200 days? That doesn’t even take into consideration that Trump isn’t usually quite as visible on the weekend. I’m not sure someone could even lie that much for that long if they tried. Basically, these people count anything they don’t agree with as a “lie”. 20,000. Right. Lol.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
It's a long list. In the interest of not getting Carpal Tunnel Syndrome, I will limit this to only 8:

1) Trump and his aides softened the GOP platform on Russia's annexation of the Crimean Peninsula in the Ukraine. Ahead of the 2016 Republican National Convention, Trump campaign aides blocked language from the party platform that called for the US government to send lethal weapons to Ukraine for its war against Russian proxies. While the Trump Administration ultimately did supply arms and anti-tank weapons to the Ukraine, this was a hollow gesture, because the Ukrainians can't use the Javelin missiles in the conflict against pro-Russian separatists based on the terms of the sale. A top staffer in the US embassy in Ukraine testified last November that the Javelins aren't "actively employed in combat operations right now."

2) Trump has repeatedly lobbied for Russia to be readmitted to the G 7, even after he learned of the intelligence reports of Russian bounties being paid to the Taliban to kill American soldiers.

3) Trump proposed a cyber unit with Russia. After the July 2017 meeting of G 20 leaders, Trump said he had spoken with Putin about "forming an impenetrable Cyber Security unit" to combat "election hacking." Trump quickly backtracked after Congressional leaders from both parties said it would be ridiculous to work with Russia on cybersecurity because Russia was responsible for egregious hacks against American targets, including during the 2016 Presidential election.

4) During the Helsinki Summit in July of 2018, President Trump memorably sided with Vladimir Putin's denial of Russian involvement in the hacking of the DNC, against the conclusion of his own appointed Director of National Intelligence, Dan Coats. Trump later claimed that he had misspoken... but since Trump has once again sided with Putin's denial following the Helsinki Summit, that appears to have been another Trump lie.

5) Trump eased sanctions on Russian oligarch, Oleg Deripaska, along with the three companies linked to him. The US Treasury Department sanctioned Deripaska in 2016 over his support for Russian interference in the 2016 election. In a bipartisan rebuke of the removal of these sanctions, 11 Senate Republicans supported a Democratic resolution calling for these sanctions to remain. Trump was undeterred, and still removed the sanctions, anyway.

6) Trump's withdrawal from Syria gave Vladimir Putin a key boost. Trump announced in October of 2019 that US troops were withdrawing from northern Syria. This abrupt move cleared the way for Turkey to conquer territories previously controlled by the US and allied Kurdish militias. It also gave Russia a golden opportunity to expand its influence and swiftly take over abandoned US outposts and checkpoints. This has been crucial for Putin's agenda in the region.

7) Trump repeated Kremlin talking points on ISIS. After announcing the Syrian withdrawal, Trump repeated the Kremlin talking point that, "Russia hates ISIS as much as the United States does," and that they are equal partners in the fight. However, Trump's comments don't reflect the reality on the ground. Since intervening in Syria in 2015, the Russian military has focused its airstrikes on anti-government rebels, not ISIS.

8) Trump just ordered US troops out of Germany. The plan to remove about one-third of the force drew serious concerns from the Pentagon because it could compromise Europe-based defenses against Russia. In a letter to Trump, nearly two dozen Republican lawmakers said his decision would "strengthen the position of Russia to our detriment." However, that seems to be Donald Trump's across-the-board, foreign policy objective. "Make Russia Great Again!"
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@508mikey,

You asked "what did they (Russia) gain from Trump the past 4 years?" The above post was mine from 3 weeks ago in this thread. Russia has gained A LOT from the Trump presidency. These are just the top 8 things that they gained, but there are many more. Putin made a great investment.
 
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Ten_Titans said:
Anyone who doesn't have any form of a retirement account is an idiot.
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well I bet the 11 million unemployed had to use theirs by now, just to survive -- maybe they will finally wake up and vote out all the Democrats and governors that shut down the economy
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
@508mikey,

You asked "what did they (Russia) gain from Trump the past 4 years?" The above post was mine from 3 weeks ago in this thread. Russia has gained A LOT from the Trump presidency. Putin made a great investment.
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Nothing compared to the chaos China has caused and will gain with Sleepy Joe
 
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W.TN.Orange Blood said:
Just more wishful thinking on your part. Robert Mueller said they couldn't find any evidence after their investigation.
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Read the Senate Intelligence Committee Report. In case you have forgotten, the Republicans control the Senate... and they found plenty of damning evidence of collusion. Russia wanted to assist the Trump campaign, and the Trumps were very eager to receive that assistance.
 
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hUTch2002 said:
It’s hilarious that you buy into the 20K lies BS but don’t seem to question if you’re being told the truth on that or not. What’s more likely? That the MSM, who has been shown to be quite the liars themselves on a regular and repeated basis, is telling the truth about Trump lying 20,000 times in just over 1,200 days or that maybe the MSM is incorrect about a person lying more than 15 times a day for a period of more than 1,200 days? That doesn’t even take into consideration that Trump isn’t usually quite as visible on the weekend. I’m not sure someone could even lie that much for that long if they tried. Basically, these people count anything they don’t agree with as a “lie”. 20,000. Right. Lol.
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It's hilarious that you buy into Trump's lies........the DDOA
 
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tvolsfan said:
It's pretty obvious when you look at death rates per capita, the countries whose lockdown was late, incomplete, or non-existent clearly fared worse. Also, there are clear increases in cases and deaths when lockdowns have been lifted in other countries.

Now if you think 175,000 deaths is a relatively small number and were uncomfortable with the shutdown, that's one thing, but lockdowns clearly slowed the spread of the virus.
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NY has/had arguably the most stringent lock down and slow reopening of any state yet lead in the death count.

I think what the evidence shows is that the lock downs just delayed the inevitable.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Read the Senate Intelligence Committee Report. In case you have forgotten, the Republicans control the Senate... and they found plenty of damning evidence of collusion. Russia wanted to assist the Trump campaign, and the Trumps were very eager to receive that assistance.
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These guys will never admit they're proudly support a damn traitor and faux Christian
 
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