2020 Presidential Race

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volfanhill said:
Cute picture and totally not relevant. You realize Trump is about to suffer a massive loss. So will the GOP. This is what happens you blindly back a complete dumpster fire. People said in 2016 we will give him a shot over a corrupt Hillary. Now they see how big of a fraud Trump is. They want no part. It’s going to be ugly. Hopefully the GOP pulls their **** together.
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The Dems are setting themselves up the same way for 2024. They have no goals what so ever. No policies to run on, nothing. Trump has them Trump focused. Biden is going to be a disaster that is going to cost them 2024. I dont think Kamala taking over at some point helps.

This is why I keep saying they are the same as the Rs and Trump.
 
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LouderVol said:
The Dems are setting themselves up the same way for 2024. They have no goals what so ever. No policies to run on, nothing. Trump has them Trump focused. Biden is going to be a disaster that is going to cost them 2024. I dont think Kamala taking over at some point helps.

This is why I keep saying they are the same as the Rs and Trump.
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Agreed
 
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tvolsfan said:
I'm fine with everything except I disagree with the last sentence. I think he's just the guy democrats see as most likely to beat Trump and they don't care about anything else this time.
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And yet he is the most Trump like candidate they had.
 
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tvolsfan said:
I'm fine with everything except I disagree with the last sentence. I think he's just the guy democrats see as most likely to beat Trump and they don't care about anything else this time.
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The democrats’ power brokers simply see him as a means to an end. And once he’s in the WH he will have outlived his usefulness and will have no influence on policy decisions.
 
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LouderVol said:
And yet he is the most Trump like candidate they had.
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Most Americans see him as a decent man who will return civility to politics and not act like a dangerous demagogue. It's certainly not much, but it is extremely unlike Trump, and it may be enough this election.
 
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tvolsfan said:
Most Americans see him as a decent man who will return civility to politics and not act like a dangerous demagogue. That is extremely unlike Trump, and it may be enough this election.
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Then they havent been paying attention.

Yelling at people during rallies, threatening personal physical violence.
40 years in DC gets pretty close to demagogue status. And the way the party fell in behind him their is power there. And with his various statements on masks, guns, frakking, healthcare etc. He clearly has his eyes set on taking power.

He is exactly what Trump would look like if he was on the Democrats ballot instead of the Republican one.
 
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tvolsfan said:
Most Americans see him as a decent man who will return civility to politics and not act like a dangerous demagogue. It's certainly not much, but it is extremely unlike Trump, and it may be enough this election.
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Joe is a lying POS throughout his entire career...decent family man my azz...he used the death of his wife to destroy an innocent truck driver's life to further his political career...he cheated with Jill and wrecked her husband's car...while the guy was volunteering to work on Joe's Senate campaign..
He has been caught plagiarizing multiple times...His lied about knowing about his son's Ukraine business dealings...stop with the misinformation its nonsense
 
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LouderVol said:
Then they havent been paying attention.

Yelling at people during rallies, threatening personal physical violence.
40 years in DC gets pretty close to demagogue status. And the way the party fell in behind him their is power there. And with his various statements on masks, guns, frakking, healthcare etc. He clearly has his eyes set on taking power.

He is exactly what Trump would look like if he was on the Democrats ballot instead of the Republican one.
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Sorry, none of that equates to "the media is the enemy of the people," trying to undermine confidence in elections, trying to have his political opponents indicted based on various conspiracy theories, etc. Not even close.
 
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hog88 said:
100% truth. They became the enemy the moment they started framing the "news" to fit an agenda instead of reporting the news.
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This post will be liked by a lot of people voting for a president who makes up random crap every day because the truth hurts his feelings.
 
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hog88 said:
The fact that you can't refute the post lends credence to it's being fact.
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LOL

You’re going to see everything you don’t like as biased framing.

Hell, I’m not even saying it doesn’t happen. It’s going to happen. But the media isn’t the enemy of the people or democracy. This president is certainly the enemy of the latter.
 
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tvolsfan said:
LOL

You’re going to see everything you don’t like as biased framing.

Hell, I’m not even saying it doesn’t happen. It’s going to happen. But the media isn’t the enemy of the people or democracy. This president is certainly the enemy of the latter.
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When the "news" media is pushing an agenda they are the enemy. It's a coordinated effort by the MSM and what makes you think that of they will do this in support of a presidential candidate they wouldn't for a foreign power?
 
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VolnJC said:
Joe is a lying POS throughout his entire career...decent family man my azz...he used the death of his wife to destroy an innocent truck driver's life to further his political career...he cheated with Jill and wrecked her husband's car...while the guy was volunteering to work on Joe's Senate campaign..
He has been caught plagiarizing multiple times...His lied about knowing about his son's Ukraine business dealings...stop with the misinformation its nonsense
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It's very amusing, and the absolute height of hypocrisy, when a Trumpster starts lecturing others about the need to stop spreading misinformation.
 
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tvolsfan said:
Sorry, none of that equates to "the media is the enemy of the people," trying to undermine confidence in elections, trying to have his political opponents indicted based on various conspiracy theories, etc. Not even close.
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Quotes By Anita Dunn
We're going to treat them [FOX News] the way we would treat an opponent. As they are undertaking a war against Barack Obama and the White House, we don't need to pretend that this is the way that legitimate news organizations behave.

People still havent accepted 2016, so not sure what you are basing your beliefs on here. They also are pushing a complete change in the way elections are held, with Michigans governor calling the election date an artificial deadline. They are questioning plenty of it.
Whitmer says Michigan votes will not be announced by 'artificial deadlines' set by 'people with political agendas'

And to the last you have the Obama IRS specifically targetting conservative groups. IRS Apologizes For Aggressive Scrutiny Of Conservative Groups

So you want to try again with how Trump is somehow unique?
 
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TN Ribs said:
It's very amusing, and the absolute height of hypocrisy, when a Trumpster starts lecturing others about the need to stop spreading misinformation.
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Nope...we don't vote for Trump because we think he's a good guy..but when someone posts Biden will return decency and honesty BS...you can bet I'm gonna call them out on their hypocrisy
 
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