2020 Presidential Race

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BigOrangeD said:
Really good news. Only poll worth paying attention to for the most part. I want to see what they poll PA next. They had Trump within 2 before within the Margin of Error.
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There has been a ton of early voting which indicates enthusiasm. When you look at the campaigns there’s zero enthusiasm for the Biden campaign and tons for Trump. It’s literally that simple to tell what’s going to happen.
 
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AM64 said:
After watching the clown show appearances by the press in the daily press briefings, I said well over a year ago that Trump should just shut it down and cancel WH press badges. You may see the media as people who are fit to challenge elected officials over policy; I don't. We elect one but not the other, and I'm tired of watching a parade of biased, pampered, arrogant, snots who believe that a press badge makes them special. The press can reclaim respectability only if they earn it, and that requires dropping the agenda and actually reporting fact rather than opinion.
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What kind of logic is this? LOL. You seem to be suggesting that there shouldn't be an independent and free press in this country? Our founding fathers understood the importance of a free press in serving as a check against public corruption. I see arguments against communism from conservatives all the time on this forum. Do you understand that freedom of the press is a key fundamental difference between a democratic republic and a communist society?

It is completely inconsistent to decry communism, but then argue against a free press which scrutinizes governmental authority. Of course, we don't elect members of the media, they are representatives of the private citizenry. Members of the media are not only fit to challenge elected officials in a democratic republic; they are an essential element of what distinguishes us from a communist country.
 
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OHvol40 said:
What did he say after that?
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“Secondly, we’re in a situation where we have put together — and you’d [sic] guys, did it for our, the president Obama’s administration, before this — we have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics. What the president is trying to do is discourage people from voting by implying their vote won’t be counted, it can’t be counted, we’re gonna challenge it, and all these things. If enough people vote, it’s gonna overwhelm the system. You see what’s happening now. You guys know it as well as I do. You see the long, long lines in early voting. You see the millions of people who have already cast a ballot,” he said.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
What kind of logic is this? LOL. You seem to be suggesting that there shouldn't be an independent and free press in this country? Our founding fathers understood the importance of a free press in serving as a check against public corruption. I see arguments against communism from conservatives all the time on this forum. Do you understand that freedom of the press is a key fundamental difference between a democratic republic and a communist society?

It is completely inconsistent to decry communism, but then argue against a free press which scrutinizes governmental authority. Members of the media are not only fit to challenge elected officials in a democratic republic; they are an essential element of what distinguishes us from a communist country.
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Sure there is a reason for a free press - one which scrutinizes government fairly, objectively, and without political bias. We shouldn't have a liberal, conservative, democrat, or republican press - only a simple objective press who report all stories without bias and without opinion disguised as fact. Report the who, what, when, how, etc; but if you can't be honest about it, forget the why. I absolutely recognize the difference between a TASS or Pravda and a free press - perhaps you don't. The press of today would make Joseph Goebbels proud if he were a dem. If you refuse to report objectively and honestly, then there's no reason or need for access.
 
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AM64 said:
Sure there is a reason for a free press - one which scrutinizes government fairly, objectively, and without political bias. We shouldn't have a liberal, conservative, democrat, or republican press - only a simple objective press who report all stories without bias and without opinion disguised as fact. Report the who, what, when, how, etc; but if you can't be honest about it, forget the why. I absolutely recognize the difference between a TASS or Pravda and a free press - perhaps you don't. The press of today would make Joseph Goebbels proud if he were a dem. If you refuse to report objectively and honestly, then there's no reason or need for access.
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You don't get to be the arbiter of what is fair and objective.
 
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BUBear said:
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You can believe whatever you want to, but Trump supporters are making way too much out of crowd size as a signal of which party is more determined to turn out and vote on November 3rd.

As for Biden's lead, according to the average of polling data on 538 right now... he has a 9.1 percentage point lead (52.0% to 42.9%). The battleground states are all much closer than that, but Biden does have a slight lead in all of them. Could they be wrong, as was the case in 2016? Sure. That is something for you to cling to in these last 9 days, I guess.
 
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37L1 said:
“Secondly, we’re in a situation where we have put together — and you’d [sic] guys, did it for our, the president Obama’s administration, before this — we have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics. What the president is trying to do is discourage people from voting by implying their vote won’t be counted, it can’t be counted, we’re gonna challenge it, and all these things. If enough people vote, it’s gonna overwhelm the system. You see what’s happening now. You guys know it as well as I do. You see the long, long lines in early voting. You see the millions of people who have already cast a ballot,” he said.
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Right, so it’s safe to imply he means fraud prevention... but the propaganda turds here knew that.
 
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BigOrangeD said:
9 Days Left!
Post-Debate Polls: POTUS Leads FL, MI, AZ
’Super’ Trump Barnstorms Battleground States
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Three post-debate polls in swing states that will decide the 2020 election show President Donald Trump with a small lead.
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All of those polls are from Trafalgar Group... which is a Republican pollster with a C- rating on 538.

And once again, you claim that polling data is not credible, but you are quick to cite polls, whenever they show something positive for Trump.
 
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