2020 Presidential Race

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headhunter15 said:
Thinking Joe wins?
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Joe will win easily unfortunately. Trump can't fight the media, big tech, C19, career gov't folks and NeverTrumper RHINOs and still win. It was fun while it lasted but be glad for the 300 judges and 3 SCOTUS justices and let's move beyond the Trumps and regroup as a party. I think 2022 will be ripe for a red wave
 
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Rifleman said:
Check out the pictures of the nearly 100 people who have been in our highest two elected offices.

Being a white man has been the first requirement for most of our history. That was even functionally enshrined in our Constitution by its mandate of who could vote.

If white men had proven to deserve this unique, but unequal and unjust honor, then American history would have gone much differently than it has.

Men, of all races frankly, in power have largely been a disaster, and America is going to be much better off when women of both parties run things. GOP will likely run a woman of color in 2024.

In a year where there were equally qualified black women, it really isn’t a crime to choose one.
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You aren’t moving the goal post but you sure are pulling it one way . I specially said in this country it’s wrong to fill a position based on gender or race ( there’s even laws against it ) and yet we have a candidate declaring it . I thought we all agreed on this . Now I’m hearing that’s it’s done all the time , but I’m not seeing are examples of other candidates publicly saying that they will choose a VP based on skin color and gender . In a year where the woman we are talking about could not beat out another women in her own party that isn’t the same race but gets the nod because she’s black ... it most certainly makes a difference. I’m very curious as to how far you are willing to bend this goal post before it breaks . Lol
 
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Hunerwadel said:
Black Americans are fired up and flocking to the polls - CNNPolitics

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/10/is-republican-voter-suppression-starting-to-backfire.html

How voter registration in PA could affect Trump Biden election

Georgia’s legacy of voter suppression is driving historic Black turnout

Georgia made more competitive by 1 million new voters since ’16 election
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No, Really -- Don't Pay Attention to Early Voting Data | RealClearPolitics

For example, we can look at North Carolina, and see that Democrats have a 10.5-percentage-point lead over Republicans in early voting. That seems great for Democrats.
But we could also contextualize this by noting that at a similar point in 2016, Democrats had a 13.1-percentage-point lead there in early voting. In other words, Democrats are doing worse than they were at this point four years ago (and much worse than they were in 2012). Actually, with a week to go early voting is looking about the same as it did at the end of 2016 (when Democrats had a 9.8-percentage-point lead at the end), and that wasn’t a great year for them. For that matter, African American voters were 22% of the early electorate in 2016; at this point they are 20.5% of the electorate. That’s probably not what we would expect in a Democratic wave year when Republicans are being encouraged to vote on Election Day and Democrats are supposedly avoiding it.
 
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Sea Ray said:
Joe will win easily unfortunately. Trump can't fight the media, big tech, C19, career gov't folks and NeverTrumper RHINOs and still win. It was fun while it lasted but be glad for the 300 judges and 3 SCOTUS justices and let's move beyond the Trumps and regroup as a party. I think 2022 will be ripe for a red wave
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Well, that’s not depressing at all. For some strange reason I woke up with a bad feeling about next Tuesday...
 
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Sea Ray said:
Joe will win easily unfortunately. Trump can't fight the media, big tech, C19, career gov't folks and NeverTrumper RHINOs and still win. It was fun while it lasted but be glad for the 300 judges and 3 SCOTUS justices and let's move beyond the Trumps and regroup as a party. I think 2022 will be ripe for a red wave
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I wouldn't go this far. Both sides seem very motivated this time around, and the polling is eerily similar to 2016 in the swing states.

Personally, I think it's going to be a nail-biter either way, but who knows, it is 2020 after all.
 
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0nelilreb said:
You aren’t moving the goal post but you sure are pulling it one way . I specially said in this country it’s wrong to fill a position based on gender or race ( there’s even laws against it ) and yet we have a candidate declaring it . I thought we all agreed on this . Now I’m hearing that’s it’s done all the time , but I’m not seeing are examples of other candidates publicly saying that they will choose a VP based on skin color and gender . In a year where the woman we are talking about could not beat out another women in her own party that isn’t the same race but gets the nod because she’s black ... it most certainly makes a difference. I’m very curious as to how far you are willing to bend this goal post before it breaks . Lol
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Not trying to set or transport goal posts of this sort, but it is probably poor communication on my part based on your read of my post. I should be clearer in my points when I post here, so I apologize.

My point is simply that we are closer to being a meritocracy when we are choosing from the entire pool of available candidates, which we haven't done for most of our history. Americas future is something I am very optimistic about. We have some incredible talent if we can just start getting it deployed properly.

Also, I believe in a women-led future. Men have had 45 POTUSi and only produced about 4 or 5 great ones. Not great odds. Let's give women 45 cracks at it and see what the data tells us. Maybe I'm wrong.
 
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Rifleman said:
Not trying to set or transport goal posts of this sort, but it is probably poor communication on my part based on your read of my post. I should be clearer in my points when I post here, so I apologize.

My point is simply that we are closer to being a meritocracy when we are choosing from the entire pool of available candidates, which we haven't done for most of our history. Americas future is something I am very optimistic about. We have some incredible talent if we can just start getting it deployed properly.

Also, I believe in a women-led future. Men have had 45 POTUSi and only produced about 4 or 5 great ones. Not great odds. Let's give women 45 cracks at it and see what the data tells us. Maybe I'm wrong.
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That's some sexist **** right there.
 
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Matt2496 said:
I wouldn't go this far. Both sides seem very motivated this time around, and the polling is eerily similar to 2016 in the swing states.

Personally, I think it's going to be a nail-biter either way, but who knows, it is 2020 after all.
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It'll be called by 10pm eastern time, 11pm at the latest. It's a dream that there are so many quiet Trump voters that he'll eek out a win. It's not reality. You'll see this next week. I'd love to be wrong but...

Trump has lost folks like my eldering parents, in laws. They only watch the network national news at 6:30pm. They've been fed the MSM's BS for 4 yrs and they believe it. They don't seek out other sources 'cause for their life, there weren't other sources. These are traditional Republican voters. They voted for Biden. Trump can't win w/o these 85-90 yr old voters with significant stock market portfolios. They shouldn't be voting Dem
 
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Sea Ray said:
We have free elections. The electorate votes for who they want. In the Dem primaries less than 3% wanted Harris. Dems will win this election with an old white guy at the top of the ticket. Harris was absolutely picked because of her sex/race and she couldn't do it on her own. She needed a white guy to put her on the ticket
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Nikki Haley will likely pick Rubio as her VP in 4 years. A great pick, but she is going to destroy him in the primaries and no one will argue that her pick was motivated by racial politics even if she says she is motivated to pick a latino running mate.
 
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Rifleman said:
Not trying to set or transport goal posts of this sort, but it is probably poor communication on my part based on your read of my post. I should be clearer in my points when I post here, so I apologize.

My point is simply that we are closer to being a meritocracy when we are choosing from the entire pool of available candidates, which we haven't done for most of our history. Americas future is something I am very optimistic about. We have some incredible talent if we can just start getting it deployed properly.

Also, I believe in a women-led future. Men have had 45 POTUSi and only produced about 4 or 5 great ones. Not great odds. Let's give women 45 cracks at it and see what the data tells us. Maybe I'm wrong.
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You would probably have to give them 45 cracks at making a decent sammich.
 
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