2020 Presidential Race

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#72,581
volfanhill said:
If you back him you should take what’s given. You hold him to lesser standard
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Let's be honest. Both sides hold their candidates to a far lesser standard than they do their own. This is far from being one-sided. If you're going to demand one side call it both ways, demand the same from the other. Neither Trump nor Biden deserve to be POTUS, but unfortunately, one will be. Hell, one already has been, and it's because in 2016 we had a similar circumstance of two undeserving candidates.
 
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#72,584
volinbham said:
"manner of holding elections" - you think that leaves wiggle room for a national mandate on the manner of holding elections?

don't even start down the path of the "Founders didn't anticipate" because that's a Pandora's box I doubt you want to open; 1st, 2nd and 4th Amendment in particular.
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Do you honestly think the ff would agree with what is happening today? It would be the equivalent of voice voting at polling locations in large cities where only one party was largely responsible for recording the vote. Do you think the ff would agree that a state should allow votes to be counted after the election even though they don't have a postmark on them? I'm a big proponent of the Constitution, but voting rights have clearly changed since it was originally written (as they should) and voting processes (or "manners of holding elections") need to be accountable... and at this point clearly they are not.
 
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AM64 said:
Wait, they are making things up? Do they have to retain the originals?
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I assume. Just reading the comments on the tweet. One person is holding the original and the other is filling in based on what that person sees on the original. That's more plausible than thinking the woman is just taking blank ballots and filling them in. Who knows? Just seems like a reasonable explanation for what's in the video. We don't know that every one she fills out is the same since the video is only 2 or so ballots.
 
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IBlvNTmWrk said:
Do you honestly think the ff would agree with what is happening today? It would be the equivalent of voice voting at polling locations in large cities where only one party was largely responsible for recording the vote. Do you think the ff would agree that a state should allow votes to be counted after the election even though they don't have a postmark on them? I'm a big proponent of the Constitution, but voting rights have clearly changed since it was originally written (as they should) and voting processes (or "manners of holding elections") need to be accountable... and at this point clearly they are not.
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Do you honestly think the FFs would be okay with anything either side does in today's government? I don't. They'd probably lead another revolution to throw all of these ass hats out of office.
 
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#72,589
volinbham said:
savage

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I even laughed. Too soon?
 
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#72,590
volfanhill said:
When did I say I back him
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Anybody who would make the comment you did about trump supporters is not a moderator independent. No way, no how. Just too much anger and loathe there for a middle of the roader.

Your comment was way, way, way left.

Calling someone a cuck is offensive enough, said by both sides on here tonight unfortunately, but you went full blown in depth statement which reveals how you truly feel.
 
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Bham thanks for heads up. I went and read some responses and it seems like that's definitely what they are doing . Didn't see any observers near them to make sure they were accurately recording them...but thats a whole other issue.

Really wish people wouldn't post anything alleging fraud or deception, shady practices etc unless they were certain its legit. Domt want any wolf cries so to speak...I very much believe there is widespread fraud, especially with mail in ballots of people that have moved, are dead, etc....which will have its day in court hopefully in each state.

Fwiw....THIS is why Republicans have been fighting for voter ID laws for over a decade people.

Don't make me post a list of all the day to day things a person must have a valid picture ID in order to do....like cash ANY check, money order, stimulus payment etc...or open a bank account for direct deposit....among a million other things...so if you are a human being who needs funds, like to eat, drink, and have a place to live...you need a picture ID. Absolutely ZERO damn excuse for not having one in 2020.

If we have even 1 more election without voter ID then this republic is lost. What a damn joke to even pretend its a burden to get something that every adult already has
 
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Weezer said:
Let's be honest. Both sides hold their candidates to a far lesser standard than they do their own. This is far from being one-sided. If you're going to demand one side call it both ways, demand the same from the other. Neither Trump nor Biden deserve to be POTUS, but unfortunately, one will be. Hell, one already has been, and it's because in 2016 we had a similar circumstance of two undeserving candidates.
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but for VP which would you take ?
 
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IBlvNTmWrk said:
Do you honestly think the ff would agree with what is happening today? It would be the equivalent of voice voting at polling locations in large cities where only one party was largely responsible for recording the vote. Do you think the ff would agree that a state should allow votes to be counted after the election even though they don't have a postmark on them? I'm a big proponent of the Constitution, but voting rights have clearly changed since it was originally written (as they should) and voting processes (or "manners of holding elections") need to be accountable... and at this point clearly they are not.
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I think they would say that the States should get it right. Highly doubtful they would say let's tell the states how to do it.
 
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#72,595
Weezer said:
Do you honestly think the FFs would be okay with anything either side does in today's government? I don't. They'd probably lead another revolution to throw all of these ass hats out of office.
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Not gonna lie when he said ff I thought he was talking about the football forum and I was confused lol
 
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#72,600
Weezer said:
Let's be honest. Both sides hold their candidates to a far lesser standard than they do their own. This is far from being one-sided. If you're going to demand one side call it both ways, demand the same from the other. Neither Trump nor Biden deserve to be POTUS, but unfortunately, one will be. Hell, one already has been, and it's because in 2016 we had a similar circumstance of two undeserving candidates.
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A couple of real issues crop up when selecting candidates. Good guys really do finish last because the selection process isn't about issues, it's about advertising. Form over substance. The other is that qualified people can find other satisfaction easier than being dragged through the slime of an election ... every bit of their lives dissected ... every past incident weighed and measured by today's "standards". The press who prey on an opposing candidate's every word are a particularly snotty, foul mouthed, intemperate, bunch of children who believe themselves God's gift to the world. Only a real narcissist would face that to wear the title.

BTW, your first sentence didn't come out as you intended.
 
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