2020 Presidential Race

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luthervol said:
My daughter is golfing at Candler park. She said all of the cars are honking their horns and people are celebrating in the streets. My other daughter in Atlanta said people are out on their balconies cheering.
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Hilarious congrats on ousting emperor Palpatine.
 
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marcusluvsvols said:
If you don't want to watch the background about the coding, proprietary info, etc...start this video at 33mins and watch til 40mins or so.

This is a 2 year long investigation into voter fraud and the software used, and it is absolutely, 100% smoking gun evidence laid out plainly and demonstrated in front of you.

There is no denying this forensic data:

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titansvolsfaninga said:
well get off of your fat ass and take it to Rudy G then. I am sure that he would welcome ALL of this evidence that you have. Hell, there is a Conservative Supreme court.
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What? Rudy is the one talking about the dead voting in his press conference. He produced a ballot and said there are many more. What the crap are you talking about? Oh yeah, it wasn’t on MSNBC so you didn’t see it
 
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Weezer said:
Yeah, they need to focus on finding a legit candidate. Do that, and I think they can win. Joe was not a strong candidate, but he was running against Trump.
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Trump's campaign strategy, as well as Biden's were both opposingly effective. I was floored to see how well Trump did.
 
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volfan_89 said:
Possibly, but that part of why people loved borderline worshipped him. He wanted to “own the libs” and he relished their hate towards him. I mean a Republican from North Carolina’s first tweet after winning was “cry more libs” we can’t progress until that mentality is gone on both sides.
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And the left is exhibiting that same behavior over beating him right now. My point is it swings both ways. The left has always acted like this was one-sided, but the response has always been just as crazy. And truthfully, and I'll probably catch heat for saying this, but the "owning" the other side attitude originated when Obama said "elections have consequences". Yes, Trump took the antagonizing to another level, but both sides need to own their role, and any sensible person knows neither side will.
 
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volfan_89 said:
Something has to happen with healthcare. M4A likely isn’t the answer but healthcare is a three part problem involving hospitals, insurance companies and pharmaceuticals. The cost of healthcare in America has to change.
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The cost does need changing for lower costs, doing universal healthcare will not achieve this. Allow people to shop across state lines and make it competitive with choice.
 
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Weezer said:
Let's be honest, yes, Trump is obnoxious and arrogant and a real ass hat, but he was attacked from the get go by the left, mercilessly. We have no idea what kind of President he might have been if he wasn't constantly fending off attacks. Biden, most likely, will not face even half of what Trump did.
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Clearly I see it differently than you. You see that he was attacked by the media. I see that they showed press conferences and videos of him. He did himself in. He surely is not a salesman. His deals were wrought from bullying not power of persuasion. Too bad. He did have some good ideas.
 
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PointGuard said:
“Trumpism” is alive and well. The rejection was more of Trump, his ineptness, overwhelming narcissistic ignorance did him in. If he was half the salesman he self proclaimed himself to be he could have enjoyed a better Presidency
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Honestly, if he'd have just shut up. I agree.

Many of my most ardent Trump friends also state that claim, fwiw.
 
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PointGuard said:
Clearly I see it differently than you. You see that he was attacked by the media. I see that they showed press conferences and videos of him. He did himself in. He surely is not a salesman. His deals were wrought from bullying not power of persuasion. Too bad. He did have some good ideas.
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I wasn't even talking about the media. I was talking about the Democrats coming out full barrel from the very beginning of his Presidency. Trump is all the things you suggest. I'm not denying that. But the Dem response to Trump was just as crazy as Trump was.
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
What? Rudy is the one talking about the dead voting in his press conference. He produced a ballot and said there are many more. What the crap are you talking about? Oh yeah, it wasn’t on MSNBC so you didn’t see it
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There is a NY Times article debunking the dead voting conspiracy. If he had evidence, shouldn't he be presenting this evidence to a court instead of holding a press conference. A press conference does nothing but sow further distrust in the system as well as the media. Which has been the goal for 4 years.
 
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mr.checkerboards said:
Kamala doesn't think so either. She comes from a state where it's encouraged
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Actually worse . When I lived in California it was still pretty easy to get a firearm ( friends take care of friends ) it was the ammo they tried to squeeze everyone one and did for a while until the courts got fair judges on them that said you can’t do that .
 
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