2020 Presidential Race

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#76,951
0nelilreb said:
Trump leaving has no bearing on CNNs credibility. You need to get that out of your head now . A lack of Trump will not get me to hold your hand and sing praises to the MSM . They have failed us all as a free news agency , it’s impossible to claim a free press when you sell your soul for Money, Prestige, Power, and Likes . I will never believe that is what the FF meant when they put so much importance on the word “ Free Press “ .
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Yep I’m way more disgusted at MSM than any of the politicians
 
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lostsheep said:
Link?
Also, find the number killed in the Vietnam conflict while you’re at it and compare.
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People who did with COVID shouldn’t count towards the number. I’m surprised they haven’t tried to reclassify JFKs death as from COVID
 
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#76,956
08Vol said:
I think the 2016 results in Wisconsin is what drove voter turnout this year. A registered D in TN may feel discouraged to vote since it is always a R landslide. Also a registered R in TN may feel it isn’t important to vote since it is always a R landslide. However in 2016 Wisconsin was won by a few thousand votes. That signaled to voters from both parties that their votes are very important. I would be suspicious if I saw a voter turnout like this in TN or NY.
If I was still suspicious of the turnout in WI I would check outside factors to see if they support the data. In the weeks leading up to the election how many political ads were run there? How much effort did both campaigns put into their “get out the vote” initiatives there? How many rallies did each candidate hold there just before the election? How large was each campaign’s staff in the state?
If you find WI was receiving more focus and money than most other states then you would expect them to have a higher % of voter turnout.
Think back to 2016 when Trump won the rust belt, a typical Democrat strong hold. It turned out R turnout was up while D turnout was down. Why? Hillary visited those state a few times in the month before the election while Trump had visited dozens and dozens of times.

A side note is that mail in voting makes it easier for people who are registered to actually vote. States that allow all their voters to vote by mail should see a higher turnout than states that don’t.
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It may be perfectly legitimate but it’s definitely worth a closer look. I’d drill down county by county and then start looking for the things you mention.
 
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volinbham said:
With Russia, nothing will change.

With China, the trade war will end and China will go back to doing all the bad things it was doing (and probably never stopped). The Belt and Road initiative will continue unchallenged and in 10 - 20 years we'll be wondering why the hell nobody did anything about it
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THE SCS will be interesting and give us an early indication. Least we forget HK and Taiwan. Kim may even start testing LRBMs
 
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#76,964
If Trump is right and there was fraud involved, it will be proven and we will move forward.

Otherwise, he needs to put the nation above himself and stfu and start packing.
 
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evillawyer said:

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Trump never provides any specific details about where the election fraud took place, how the election fraud was executed or who was responsible for the election fraud. Trump's accusations of fraud are always vague in nature. Trump has an imprecise manner of speaking anyway, but whenever he is making allegations of wrongdoing, he becomes even more inexact and unfocused. Trump has surrogates such as Chris Christie who want to support his claims on Sunday talk news shows, but they can't, unless the Trump campaign provides some specific details of what they are talking about. To this point, they are only speaking in generalities about this alleged fraud.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Trump never provides any specific details about where the election fraud took place, how the election fraud was executed or who was responsible for the election fraud. Trump's accusations of fraud are always vague in nature. Trump has an imprecise manner of speaking anyway, but whenever he is making allegations of wrongdoing, he becomes even more inexact and unfocused. Trump has surrogates such as Chris Christie who want to support his claims on Sunday talk news shows, but they can't, unless the Trump campaign provides some specific details of what they are talking about. To this point, they are only speaking in generalities about this alleged fraud.
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Blah blah blah fraud. Suck it libz
 
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#76,972
BowlBrother85 said:
Trump never provides any specific details about where the election fraud took place, how the election fraud was executed or who was responsible for the election fraud. Trump's accusations of fraud are always vague in nature.
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Considering the past 4 years, I cant believe you type this with a straight face.
 
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lostsheep said:
If Trump is right and there was fraud involved, it will be proven and we will move forward.

Otherwise, he needs to put the nation above himself and stfu and start packing.
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It's always Rudy Giuliani who is front and center with any claim of fraud, conspiracy or victimhood. I liked him after 9/11... he has adopted such a cartoonish persona. He never provides evidence of anything.
 
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